USMNT Thread
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Could Klopp's next move be the Germany or U.S. national team jobs?
An international role makes a lot of sense - but what are the reasons he might take the roles or not?
www.nytimes.com
Take Gallardo or Marsh. This country club national team nonsense is pathetic. The entire thing should have been blow up when Karen Reyna stuck her nose in and everybody went for safe spaces, apologies and cheerios.
Blow this thing up. Put someone in charge who knows what that is all about.
Blow this thing up. Put someone in charge who knows what that is all about.
Thanks for posting this. The review should take all of twelve seconds.Womp womp. Sort of embarrassed for you.
On the bright side, lets hope the USA get their act together and go big.
I wish we had Jesse Marsch, the same Jesse Marsch who got Canada through to the group stages but if we can get Klopp out of all of this, I will take it.
Jurgen Klopp has unexpected stance on taking USA job after Copa America disaster
Jurgen Klopp could cut short his break from coaching if the USMNT fires Gregg Berhalter, with the former Liverpool coach said to be open to considering one of two national team roleswww.liverpool.com
Why are you embarrassed for me? The fact you think Klopp or any top flight manager would desire this job is hysterical. I now at least understand how GD silly you really are. You think one of the top 5 managers on the planet is coming to the US.....how f--king cute. Gregg did what he had to after the team failed to qualify for the WC. He did that and won some trophies, but the US does in fact need a coaching and mentality shift to a real coach that can organize a defense. There will be 5-6 teams after the Euros that will probably need a new HC as well, including the UK. I don't see it happening as much as a second hand quote from Liverpool.com has.Womp womp. Sort of embarrassed for you.
On the bright side, lets hope the USA get their act together and go big.
I wish we had Jesse Marsch, the same Jesse Marsch who got Canada through to the group stages but if we can get Klopp out of all of this, I will take it.
Jurgen Klopp has unexpected stance on taking USA job after Copa America disaster
Jurgen Klopp could cut short his break from coaching if the USMNT fires Gregg Berhalter, with the former Liverpool coach said to be open to considering one of two national team roles
The US doesn't have the class player to pull the strings in the middle. They don't have Liverpools center backs or Allison in goal. There is no Salah in his prime Luiz. I'm fine with moving on to a new HC, but it's not going to do what you think it will. You want to make a bet right now that Klopp is coming to the US or the next HC gets the US to the quarters....I'll take that bet all day long. If you're an idiot you can take me up on either one, if you're not you'll stop talking out your arse.
Your OCD with GB is your own thing, not mine. You're a clown Gregg and the fact you listen to Lalas and his podcast just reiterates to me that you're a clueless fan on the actual sport. You sound like Rutgers fan that think Saban could come in there as that is about the closes parallel for someone like to you understand where US soccer really is. Now GFY and I'll go back to tuning you out.
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This is the same federation who did an "expansive search" (that never happened) and ended back up with Gregg Berhalter (who happens to be the brother of a high level federation executive)
I don't honestly expect Klopp to happen but for god sakes, we need to move on. The best the US has played in the past few years is in the time that Berhalter was suspended! If we bring back BJ Callaghan, I will take it! The truth is, it should have been Jesse Marsch from the beginning but sadly, his brother wasn't one of the decision makers.
Obviously, this federation from the top is a joke and needs to be cleaned out, but for now, lets work on the coach.
You love a good strawman.
I just said I don't expect Klopp to want it silly boy. Or rather, I don't expect our federation to go for it.
I said bring back BJ Callaghan and that is an upgrade.
You have literally spent years attacking me for thinking Gregg isn't the right man for this job. And btw, always personal attacks at me for saying my opinion, it was pathological. Obviously, I was right the whole time. Canada has surpassed us now.
Again, embarrassed for you.
The article below lists realistic candidates, not twitter troll feeds.
Are Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola realistic options for USMNT?
As much as U.S. fans and media want to trumpet their chances at landing one of the top coaches in the world, neither Jurgen Klopp nor Pep Guardiola are serious candidates for the position.
Next USA head coach: Are Klopp, Guardiola realistic candidates for USMNT with Berhalter fired after Copa America? | Sporting News
The disappointing early exit from the 2024 Copa America has left the USMNT rudderless just two years before a pivotal summer of soccer in the country. With a coaching change made, they will need to find someone else with the capacity to guide USA to success.
www.sportingnews.com
The article below lists realistic candidates, not twitter troll feeds.
Are Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola realistic options for USMNT?
As much as U.S. fans and media want to trumpet their chances at landing one of the top coaches in the world, neither Jurgen Klopp nor Pep Guardiola are serious candidates for the position.
Next USA head coach: Are Klopp, Guardiola realistic candidates for USMNT with Berhalter fired after Copa America? | Sporting News
The disappointing early exit from the 2024 Copa America has left the USMNT rudderless just two years before a pivotal summer of soccer in the country. With a coaching change made, they will need to find someone else with the capacity to guide USA to success.
So you agree that Berhalter shouldn't be the coach for the world cup?
The sport sucks…it is not catching on in the USA (despite claims to the contrary - like converting to the Metric system).
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No he shouldn't be, but I don't have a say in the matter. What I said is he didn't deserve to get fired for the Reyna BS or the performance in the WC. I still stand by those statments with no problem. The US failed to qualify before him, he not only did that, but he got out of the group. He also won some GC's but that is due to CONCACAF being one of, if not the worst group of nations on the planet.
The US federation needs to understand they hype train they build up about how "talented" this team is needs to be walked back slowly. They aren't a top team on the planet and it's not really close. They need a shift in mentality to figuring out how to defend and keep clean sheets against real teams instead of listening to fanboys say we need some offensive attacking system. We don't have an attaching CM that can dictate the game and setup opportunities at a decent enough clip. The US doesn't have a striker that scares any decent team on the planet. As great as CP is, he's not getting on the field in many of top 10 WC teams, probably not on many rosters to be honest. I'm not sure why people keep thinking this team is just a HC away from greatness, but Lucy can keep pulling the football for you.
I like reality Greg, but you do you and think this team is just a HC away.
Most popular sport on the planet and it's not even close....suck it troll.
So when I say he shouldn't be the coach, I am a delusional moron but you say it, and it's fine.
Again, you keep making the strawman argument that people who think that Gregg shouldn't be the coach think we should win the world cup or the copa? Strawman. Obviously that isn't the case. I do however expect the team to play better and not in some kind of square peg round hole system. You think you are the only genius to have the idea that we should play a more balanced system with better defending?
Your argument is wack and always has been. If someone disagrees with you they are "dilusional".
You do you strawman.
Ah, now you are gaslighting. Strawman didn't work, so let's try gaslighting.
It's surprising a fan of the US national team would have something to say about the national team coach?
If you think I have an "obsession" I recommend never moving abroad.
A whole lot of truth in this....our best really isn't on par with the rest of the best outside of CONCACAF.
www.espn.com
Why USMNT isn't as good as it thinks after Copa America exit
The U.S. doesn't have enough elite players to beat teams outside Concacaf, and its record at major tournaments bears this out.
www.espn.com
"not catching on", lol
Major League Soccer on track for another season of record-breaking attendance | MLSSoccer.com
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You've spent years having a personal vendetta against Berhalter...for years, it's been completely dismissing anything good that happens and going radio silent when it did...to call the tenure a "complete disaster" heading into this week just shows how unrealistic you are at this point.
What should be the minimum expectation? If making the round of 16 at a World Cup on foreign soil is a "complete disaster", then what should be considered a success at home in 2026? Do you think we're a new coach away from cruising into the semis?
And CCV has shown me exactly what Gregg has likely been seeing in him over the past few years...thinking that he should have been a lock for the starting 11 has always been wrong.
And FYI...the thinking that "Canada has passed us" couldn't be more wrong.
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Nobody here was putting GGG on some pedestal as being irrelplaceable. The thing is he inherited a team that missed the WC in awful style. He got them qualified. They had not won the Gold Cup since 2017 and Mexico was beating us routinely. He delivered multiple Gold Cups, a nations CUP, and the US owns Mexico currently. He also just didn't get to the WC, he got out of the group and lost to a better team in Holland unless Greg wants to argue that. He basically took that team to it's ceiling if we are being honest.
So where during the last few years was the good spot to fire him? After he qualified, won GC's, or got out of the group stage? When the Reyna's melted down and went full Karen on him for something that occurred 25 years ago? Maybe, but outside of him airing it in public he did the right thing. You cannot let players loaf. Now is probably the only time before the WC they can make a move, but had Weah not lost his mind and they got out of the group....little Greggy on this site would be melting down.
Was GB anyone's first choice, not really, but there is a portion of the US fanbase that is over the top delusional. Pep, Jose, Jurgen.....are these nutjobs serious? Gregg on this site has an over the top obsession with Berhalter that really manifested into just pure craziness. I'll be interested to see if and when they fire him who the real list of coaches will be. I'm hoping for someone who can organize the team defensively and take it from there.
USA soccer's biggest problems after Copa America disappointment and what needs to happen to fix them
The USMNT crashed out of the Copa America in the group stages, winning just one of their three games
www.cbssports.com
I think we're very much on the same page...I'm far from a Berhalter fan, and think the time is right for someone else right now if nothing more for the fact that there will never be a more "marketable" time for a new coach with the next World Cup on home soil (and felt that way as we were searching at the start of this cycle). To me, Jesse Marsch isn't some huge upgrade, and any coach for that matter will only have success if our players keep moving forward (and find some better club situations heading into 2026).
My issue is with making it personal with Berhalter (ie, calling him a "wife beater", or acting like he had zero qualifications for getting the job and that his brother was the sole reason he's coaching us today...reminds me of Gunsie acting like the only reason Pat Chambers was hired is because his brother was an alum). We've been through this before with everyone calling for Bradley's head and acting like he was some idiot, and that someone like Klinssman could come in and becomes the savior that US Soccer needed. We see where that landed.
My favorite criticism over the past few days is from those saying that his record was "x-x-x" against top 30 teams in the world if you remove Mexico...why the F would anyone ever remove Mexico games, when they are the most important of all? It would be like removing games against Ohio St when looking at James Franklin's record. For whatever reason, some seem to try and paint the worst possible picture of the past few years, rather than looking at the actual results (and our actual talent level).
As compared to what? Not even on the radar screen…with scoring and action and shots, etc…they have been singing that tune for 50 years…if you think a 1-0 snooze fest with sissie boys writing in pain because someone kicked them in the shin is going to replace football - just keep believing that…I’ll bet you also use Centrigrade and meters? Was told that was coming soon in the 1970s….ahhhhhhhh…no
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A whole lot of truth in this....
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/world/americas/usmnt-berhalter.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/world/americas/usmnt-berhalter.html
Jurgen Klopp openly flirts with next job as he makes feelings on USA clear
Former Liverpool head coach Jurgen Klopp has been linked with the USA job with him fanning fuel to the flames in his most recent Instagram post sending fans into a frenzy
www.liverpool.com
Jurgen Klopp teases USMNT fans with 4th of July message
DailyMail.com columnist Tim Howard this week vowed that he will fly to Spain to persuade the former Liverpool boss to take over - should US Soccer replace Gregg Berhalter.
www.dailymail.co.uk
'I think I could lure him' - Ex-goalkeeper Tim Howard bizarrely backs HIMSELF to convince ex-Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp to replace Gregg Berhalter as USMNT boss after colossal Copa America failure | Goal.com US
Former Manchester United keeper Tim Howard believes he could convince ex-Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp to replace USMNT manager Gregg Berhalter.
www.goal.com
I think your biggest problem is when people disagree with you.
I still hate the Diego Luna omission...he's both help this team, and helps long term with getting his commitment. We're giving him every reason now to pick up the phone when Mexico calls.
Unfortunate that we didn't end up with a better option to lead the front line. Haji would have been a good option had he been released. I wanted Pepi on this squad vs the Copa America squad if we could have worked it out.
Was pleasantly surprised yesterday when I saw that Miles got the call (and was released).
My expectation is getting out of the group and losing in the quarters...if we could get something out of the France game, it would be huge.
But we have Walker Zimmerman on the roster! Why fret! (I know they aren’t the same position)
not sure how I feel about him declining an alternate spot, seems a little selfish on the surface, or maybe he was showing his cards. This roster has Berhalter all over it.
Zimmerman is a perfect guy for this roster. Assume he’ll be captaining the squad.
And no idea what this roster has to do with Berhalter, or how he’s somehow at fault for it.
I am an Arsenal fan because my son is a huge soccer fan and he needs someone to enjoy it with. None of his friends, who all played as kids, care about the game.
Back in the 80s soccer was going to be the next big thing. Then in the 90s, the 00s and the 10s. It never happened.
I am not going to die on some hill arguing about it, but I think the sport is never going to take off in the USA because we crush amateur play. If a kid wants to stand out he gets funneled into a system of coaching, travel teams, and expenses. If you have money you play. No money? No play. Entire generations see their interest end when their playing ends at ten years old. That’s what happened to my son and his friends.
I know it is much like that in other sports now, but at least we have a huge base with decades of quality play at a high level in basketball, baseball and US football. We haven’t managed to kill those sports yet.
When I see pick up games being played in schoolyards and vacant lots I will believe USA soccer has a chance.
Back in the 80s soccer was going to be the next big thing. Then in the 90s, the 00s and the 10s. It never happened.
I am not going to die on some hill arguing about it, but I think the sport is never going to take off in the USA because we crush amateur play. If a kid wants to stand out he gets funneled into a system of coaching, travel teams, and expenses. If you have money you play. No money? No play. Entire generations see their interest end when their playing ends at ten years old. That’s what happened to my son and his friends.
I know it is much like that in other sports now, but at least we have a huge base with decades of quality play at a high level in basketball, baseball and US football. We haven’t managed to kill those sports yet.
When I see pick up games being played in schoolyards and vacant lots I will believe USA soccer has a chance.
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Yep the Olympic rosters are a joke around the globe. Any decent player was at the senior tournaments this summer or their clubs said no. This isn’t a GGG thing or even a US thing. Clubs don’t put value into the Olympics. People complaining about the Olympic rosters are clueless.
Yeah, and clubs have veto power over their players in the Olympics. Mbappe wanted to play in Paris, Real Madrid said no.
Since this seems to be the Soccer thread, and I don’t want to anger the Board gods starting another, I thought I’d ask if anyone planned to go to Lincoln Financial Field on 7/31 to see Arsenal vs Liverpool?
My son and I are going. He is taking me there as “my birthday” present.
Anyway, it will be my first Premier League event. If my health holds up I will do my best to make my way through that giant stadium to my seat. I gave up going to events several years ago.
My son and I are going. He is taking me there as “my birthday” present.
Anyway, it will be my first Premier League event. If my health holds up I will do my best to make my way through that giant stadium to my seat. I gave up going to events several years ago.
Games here in the US are fun to see, but they are friendly's and with most of the top shelf players having played in an International tournament this summer you may be see very limited minutes if at all. Someone like Saka for Arsenal or any other player who's team went deep into the tournament probably won't see a ton of minutes. They are fun to attend, but they are just warm up matches designed to get players in match shape as well as give some of the up and coming players a place to try and earn their spot.
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