Yep, but I don’t need to spout off about it constantly, day after day, thread after thread, all year long. My opinion has no impact on what Penn State does.
What a bunch of babies
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Really? You want to go there?
LSU fired a coach, hired a coach, and won a championship.
TCU hired a coach, beat Michigan and got to a CFP championship.
You ignore those successes, things PSU and Franklin have never done, and point to this year? That’s your defense? After Franklin goes 0-6 against his two most important rivals in the past three years? After he has a losing season three years ago and a 7-6 season two years ago? What a joke.
What else is the point of a message board? Will note engaging here is voluntary….
I'm not defending Franklin. I think the time has come, but the logistics are messy.
I was responding to another poster concerning the Alabama series, and I was in school and was apoplectic over the 79 Sugar Bowl and attended the 81 home loss. Memories for me. Also, nothing I wrote was not factual concerning The Bear's record against PSU. For me, it has nothing to do with Franklin.
Seems like there was an implication there, but never mind.
There really wasn't. I'd come clean if there were. I really lived the Alabama games in a way that I don't live sporting events now. It took me a long time to shake the 79 Sugar Bowl loss. That one hurt. PSU was the better team. We were just loaded with future NFL players on both sides of the bow and as reserves.
Again, if the payment logistics were more favorable for PSU to buy out Franklin and they didn't get it done, I'd be disappointed too. Just don't see how they'd get it done now.
TCU did it in the garbage Big 12 and one year later they suck…I would think sustained success should be a goal with any hire. LSU fired their coach a couple years later..again, not exactly sustained success. I would rather consistently win 10 games a year than make the CFP one year then suck for the next three or more.
It's a lousy argument. Franklin isn't competing head-to-head against Joe; he's competing against Harbaugh, Day (and Saban and Smart if you want to take it to it's logical conclusion). If the argument is that Joe wasn't so great so it's okay that Franklin isn't, it's not compelling. The tell me why is PSU spending so much money on a coaching staff, on facilities, and why is it compromising academic standards for the football program?
And just for the record, I've never set the program's goal to be "elite."
I thought it was to discuss different things regarding Penn State football, not just complain about the coach over and over and over and over and over.
I think we have stars on offense -- none at WR, you're right about that -- but they haven't been utilized correctly. Hopefully today's change will correct that issue.
Had it been an argument, it would have been a lousy one, an irrelevant one. It wasn't an argument. I was responding to someone about Joe and The Bear. Memories flood back to me because I attended school when three of the four games were played. Just memories. You both might consider me illogical, but I'm not that illogical. It's always odd to defend yourself when someone sets you up as a strawman, especially when you weren't intending to argue.
Sorry, intention was not to bring you into this, just those posters who incessantly have to argue that Joe wasn't so great in order to justify Franklin's performance.
Consistently win 10 games ? What team are you talking about? The last three years Penn State had one losing season, one 7 win season and a 11 win season. I guess in your world that is consistent?
Ask LSU if they would rather trade in their historic championship team for 10 win seasons.
Ask TCU if they would trade in their CFP team, that beat Michigan, for a ten win season.
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Yes thought we had a great chance given the game was at home, yes to your second question as well, I guess you would have gone for 2 at the end of the game as well, huh? Knowing full well if you don't get it you now need 2 score and not just one. Yes that is stupid and you are welcome for the free advice or the very least an informed response.
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I was definitely expecting a win against one of them…until it became apparent what they actually had on the field in the WR position. Then, not so much. Love to see them finish strong and knock down a Bowl win.
Allar is a bit more erratic than I thought he’d be. His touch seems poor. I also assumed he’d scramble a bit more for some cheapies. But he’s a kid with a ton of talent. Everyone develops differently.
Allar is a bit more erratic than I thought he’d be. His touch seems poor. I also assumed he’d scramble a bit more for some cheapies. But he’s a kid with a ton of talent. Everyone develops differently.
There’s a difference between winning a NC and making the CFP. I’m quite certain no team would trade multiple 10 win seasons for one CFP appearance then back to crap. And PSU has a lot more than one 10 win season under Franklin.
Yes, but when there's an 800 pound gorilla in the room it's difficult to focus on or care about the color of the wallpaper.
You mean the same qb that took his team to the playoffs as a freshmen and sophomore. That one?
Well for starters I guess we should start cheating like Michigan I guess.
Yeah I always go with what the morons in the media have to say. Every bleeping time.
So tell us who we should hire or else stop with the incessant complaining.
Yeah, those morons who ask questions that the Bottom Feeder stumbles over and displays his ignorance attempting to answer. Only you and a chosen few have the intellect and insight into the game. We bow to your greatness. By the way, is the sky blue in your world?
I have answered this dumb question many times in other threads.
I would go with any of the guys on the list of prospects that On3 staff came up with to replace Jimbo. I will add Rhule, who has proven he can beat Franklin with Temple talent, and a few other guys I named previously in many other threads.
You and your friends seem to believe the Bottom Feeder can't be replaced by a great many other people currently working as head coaches and assistants in college, or as assistants in the pro game. I disagree. He had a losing season 3 years ago, a 7 win season two years ago, and an 11 win season a year ago. That is not an outstanding record. Given his inability to beat his primary B1G opponents, and his record against other ranked teams, he does not have a record against potential CFP opponents that would indicate he would have success in the CFP. Finally, his < 63% winning record in the B1G, since his arrival, is not that impressive either. Losses in recent years to a Scott Frost coached Nebraska, Michigan State, a PJ Fleck coached Minnesota, Iowa, Indiana, and Illinois also tarnish his record. Look it up, I am tired of doing your work for you.
I do not think Franklin is going to be fired. I think the only way he goes is if his humiliation becomes unbearable, or another team with less sense than money goes after him, or likely both. That will be good for the prospects of Penn State returning to the ranks of great college teams. They are further away from that today than they were in 2017.
Agreed. I've been beating this drum a few times this season, but once again I want to reiterate that what Michigan has been doing is an example to us that success at the level they have been achieving actually is attainable for a program like ours. See below.
I'm old enough to remember when the joke about Michigan and Harbaugh is that would always finish 3rd in the division despite the hype each season. Now that's what they say about us. Indeed, a lot of things that go into making an elite football team, but in terms of talent we live in the zone where it's potentially achievable.
So if the opposing team coaches are paid more then they should expect even better results based on your theory
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