What Will It Take To "Make Penn State Great Again" Academically?

TiogaLion

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it shouldn't be happening anywhere- and yes, see Florida for it -and worse- happening at the college level
Could you explain the Florida Laws, in some detail with links? I'm not familiar with them and would like to get up to speed. Also, I like to know which Public College or University is enacting such laws.
 
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bbrown

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Could you explain the Florida Laws, in some detail with links? I'm not familiar with them and would like to get up to speed. Also, I like to know which Public College or University is enacting such laws.
See if you had some of those ā€œother classesā€ and ā€œmajorsā€ you would know how to use Google.
I guess you must have cheated off all your engineering buddies.šŸ¤£
 

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Train027

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I hope our president is willing to get her hands dirty in creating and executing unpopular decisions to bring the finances into balance. She also needs our prayers in dealing with the swamp creatures on the BoT.
At least we donā€™t have the ridiculous past president whose only notable act was easing his hands with BLM idiots.
 

BobPSU92

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On a positive note, Franklin has said that the alignment with Kraft and Neeli is the best heā€™s experienced at PSU. That has to count for something. Not sure what, but something.
 
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GrimReaper

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So, appointing BOT members by the standing Governor is an outrage? HaHAHA! They haven't actually done anything but you're outraged? Find another, better example please?

Why haven't you explained Florida Laws in some detail? You know, what exactly are they banning?
Board members generally do not mess with curriculum.
 
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Woodpecker

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How's the rain in Manhattan Beach?
 

ApexLion

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Itā€™s simple and itā€™s the same message delivered by alumni reps in 1989: develop the best and brightest in the state, provide incentives to great and needy applicants and look seriously at the careers of the future. Lead the state.
 

MacNit

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Can you imagine what this school could accomplish if they eliminated the waste and allocated more resources into attracting and producing the best of the best?

IMO, it's better to be great at a few things than average in a lot of things. When you think of schools that are great, you think of schools that do certain things very well and because of their reputation they attract the best faculty and students. You think of Penn for Business, Harvard for Law and MIT for Mathematics. Nobody cares about Harvard's Art program.

We need to identify what we want to be known for and then allocate our resources in those directions in order to be great.
Engineering
 
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Leo Ridens

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I regularly see people discussing our academic decline. So, what will it take to put the shine back on that Diploma?

Personally, I'd like to see PSU focus their resources on programs that produce fruit in the real world. Focus on Business, Medicine, Law, Science, Mathematics, Education, Engineering and such. Focusing our resources on fewer programs would raise the level of development in those programs and would cut wasteful spending.

Thoughts?
I recently spoke with an old friend who is rather high up in the academic side of the PSU administration and he told me something that startled me. Our new president is cutting funds (about 4% per year for four years) for many of the STEM departments, including physics, chemistry, EE, materials science, and possibly others. This in stark contrast with the trends in most American universities to bolster the STEM fields. Her reasoning is to divert funds to hire more junior faculty in the departments that service the basic required courses (English, history, writing, etc.) in order to put as many undergrad butts as possible in seats at full tuition to address the general funding shortfall. Faculty in the STEM fields will be reduced by retirement and general attrition of senior professors and those positions will not be replaced with promising young professors. The net result will be that the departments that were built up over the past few decades to greater prominence and significantly higher ranking (physics is the one I know) will now fall back to lower ranking. This will hurt Penn State in the university rankings that are academically rigorous as well as the more popular ones like US News and World Report. I fear that this will not end well for the long-term reputation of the university.
 

BobPSU92

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I recently spoke with an old friend who is rather high up in the academic side of the PSU administration and he told me something that startled me. Our new president is cutting funds (about 4% per year for four years) for many of the STEM departments, including physics, chemistry, EE, materials science, and possibly others. This in stark contrast with the trends in most American universities to bolster the STEM fields. Her reasoning is to divert funds to hire more junior faculty in the departments that service the basic required courses (English, history, writing, etc.) in order to put as many undergrad butts as possible in seats at full tuition to address the general funding shortfall. Faculty in the STEM fields will be reduced by retirement and general attrition of senior professors and those positions will not be replaced with promising young professors. The net result will be that the departments that were built up over the past few decades to greater prominence and significantly higher ranking (physics is the one I know) will now fall back to lower ranking. This will hurt Penn State in the university rankings that are academically rigorous as well as the more popular ones like US News and World Report. I fear that this will not end well for the long-term reputation of the university.

So Neeliā€™s got this.

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BiochemPSU

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You realize that calling for anything that isn't finance or STEM to be eliminated from the degree options at PSU means that roughly 97% of our football team will be playing elsewhere next year, right?
 
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