It’s amazing we have fans that think like this. We don’t deserve to be in the SEC. Absolutely pathetic mindset
What would you rather have?
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17 you. 17 YOU! 17 you 17 you 17 YOU!!!!!!!
That’s the best video I have ever seen. Kudos to whoever posted it.
ETA: had to do it
MSU Fans: WE HAVE THE REFUGE. THERE’S GAME THERE. WE LOVE TO HUNT! *****
Fine if you like that, but if you think that’s a base to build an attractive area upon to showcase Starkville…
It’s called Pragmatism.
People should look into it.
If the department has the money, sure go for it but hold some back just in case for emergencies.
But as has been stated many times before, the athletics department compared to its conference brethren doesn’t have enough money.
And say what you will about MSU but Billy Beane ain’t gonna be walking through that door and Money Ball the Bulldogs to the Promised Land.
Sounds great. Enjoy sitting at home getting your rocks off to intramural sports like WBB & baseball and saying “woe is me! We have to be pragmatic!” A few years will go by and you’ll get an invite to eat cold hot dog in Dudy Noble to watch a weekend conference series against Old Dominion. But at least we were pragmatic!
Nah.
If we’re playing Old Dominion in a conference series, that’s because the dambfools decided to go for broke and spend all the money— and indeed went broke.
Attitudes like yours are the reason why Birmingham Southern closed down.
They went for broke and failed miserably.
And if you want MSU to do the same, then are YOU a real MSU fan or a Closet Rebel?
Ah the classic loser SPS line “are you a closet rebel!1!l” when you begin to lose footing in a discussion.
You can’t half *** support for football if you’re P5, especially SEC institution. The ramifications for that would result in us becoming another Dallas Baptist and Starkville eroding into what outsiders think it actually is. I don’t get why some of our fans can’t get this through their thick 17ing skull. The 2014 football season had a much greater impact on university enrollment and economically for Starkville than the 2021 baseball national championship. It wasn’t even close. Secondary sports are what they are. You can’t make a living off them.
But I know you’re just an ignorant stubborn dork like others on here and “we can’t compete! We’re poor!” Couldn’t be further from the truth.
Well, I had to ask you that question since you seem to be very invested in a Lost Cause… **
Dude. We’re MSU. Half-*** has been in our DNA since 1878.
And as @Perd Hapley put it so eloquently, we have the money to “upgrade” our Jeep Wrangler facilities. And we all know what happens to Wranglers.
Being Dallas Baptist might be an improvement.
DFW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starkville
Dude. Get it right. I’m a Geek.
Alright well, have a great weekend. I hope you get that Victoria Vivians fathead this year for your birthday
Been a good week and the weekend should be the same. So thanks for the thought.
I’ve already had my birthday this year.
I’m so disappointed I didn’t get that fathead. **
Easy. Baseball is a national seed. That means I got to watch over 40 games most of which we won. Losing only 6 in baseball doesn't bother me as much as losing 6 in football.
Here is the truth for 85 Maroon eagle and goat. Contrary to those mentioned opinion or thought process. MSU athletics budgets and NIl is in a pretty good spot. Sure we would love to be better and always need more but to sit here and post and act like we are basically using a NIl ebt card is both foolish and not based on facts. We can compete in the NIL and portal era but we have fans like those mentioned above who just can’t grasp the fact we have moved into the 21 century, they are still in the LT and cohen mindset of we have to do more with less. Unfortunately those that think that won’t give a dime to the BI or even by tickets to games. Same folks that complain about NIl in football are the ones who voted for baseball in the poll. And this is going to hurt some people feeling but again investing in baseball does zero for the university and the athletics department..ZERO. We will start investing more in football and basketball than we ever have before and people just can’t grasp that. They say well no matter what we invest we will never be better than vandy. Such a bull **** statement. In the modern era of football we have surpassed vandy and others. Truth is we don’t know what we can accomplish just yet cause we had some pretty weak leaders that would invest more in baseball than football. So instead of toting the 1988 mantra of we can’t how about saying we can. Until now we have never invested in football and basketball like we are about too. So those who think we should invest in a non revenue sport cuse by golly Dudy Noble and the LFL, I suggest you sit back and watch us succeed in football while your still grilling for the right fielder from an Arizona directional school who just took 2 of 3 from state at DNF in march.
@Bulldawg77 — Compared to G5, we’re certainly in a better spot.
Compared to many nonconference P5, I would agree with you that we are similar to them.
Compared to our fellow conference schools though, we’re very much on the other side of the tracks from them.
If there is a pecking order of the schools in order of importance in the SEC, I’d put us squarely at 16th.
Now when the next football realignment change comes, how many SEC schools will be called?
It won’t be 16. It won’t be 14 either.
Maybe 12.
And even if we show ourselves to be Top 10 in the conference on the field, we don’t wow people nationally.
We’ve all complained how people confuse us and Ole Miss so the networks will choose them to have a Mississippi school from the sparsely populated state.
That’s how the world operates.
I don’t like it. And unfortunately, fantasies don’t exist in real life.
Compared to many nonconference P5, I would agree with you that we are similar to them.
Compared to our fellow conference schools though, we’re very much on the other side of the tracks from them.
If there is a pecking order of the schools in order of importance in the SEC, I’d put us squarely at 16th.
Now when the next football realignment change comes, how many SEC schools will be called?
It won’t be 16. It won’t be 14 either.
Maybe 12.
And even if we show ourselves to be Top 10 in the conference on the field, we don’t wow people nationally.
We’ve all complained how people confuse us and Ole Miss so the networks will choose them to have a Mississippi school from the sparsely populated state.
That’s how the world operates.
I don’t like it. And unfortunately, fantasies don’t exist in real life.
Our NIL is better than some of those quote 15 other schools you mentioned as us being 16. I know right! hard to believe little ol state can actually have something and can get **** done in the modern era. The new realignment won’t be 12 schools it will most likely be 40-60 and our 121 AD budget will be included in the realignment. Maybe 15 years ago your argument could have held water but not today. We are in a much better shape than most on here would like to think
SEC needs some losers, so our money will continue to roll in, no matter if we invest in it or not. May as well accept our role.
But hey, if Lebby can elevate us by doing exactly what the blue bloods are doing, I’ll admit I was wrong.
But hey, if Lebby can elevate us by doing exactly what the blue bloods are doing, I’ll admit I was wrong.
So because Maroon Eagle thinks very poorly of Mississippi State, that’s that? You haven’t provided any data, just that the media has confused State & Ole Miss. And given us little fancy quotes like “that’s how the world operates”.
Again, your mindset sucks and you think it’s reality, but it’s actually not. We’re doing fine in NIL, and truthfully, if Lebby is a success, we will do even better. Will have to wait and see how the hire shakes out. No one expects us to be Alabama, but we are more in line with our counterparts Arkansas, South Carolina, ole Miss than we are to Vandy in terms of what we are capable of in football. Just go look at the results of the last 15 years. Go look at the results in the last 35 years. We need more buy in, not less.
You’re right. I’m shocked if that’s the case. Half-*** is in our DNA after all.
I tend to think worst case scenarios so in my previous comment I went with 12 SEC schools to be part of the 40 involved.
24 SEC/B1G + 16 ACC/Big 12 is my thought process.
I know how we are perceived.
And our perception is poor.
I’ve not provided data simply because where are the publicly available NIL budgets for all universities?
Oh yeah, there aren’t any.
NIL is Bitcoin. I can’t trust it until I see the data.
Sorry I missed all the fun yesterday but finally made it through 4 pages. (I voted football with that Egg Bowl win hanging on the end but BKB was tempting as my favorite MSU sport).
As noted several times, always interesting to see how a simple question asking for a simple opinion can be turned into 4 pages of lectures on a variety of unrelated topics but what makes the board so much fun to read. Even managed to get a noodle arm reference back in there.
Is it fair to say the Jeep Wrangler has now entered the SPS lexicon and available for use in future topics? Analogies can make my head hurt and that looked like it was a long one so I stopped reading. Then it got so many compliments I went back and have to say that was pretty good. Perd put some thought into that one. Well done.
As noted several times, always interesting to see how a simple question asking for a simple opinion can be turned into 4 pages of lectures on a variety of unrelated topics but what makes the board so much fun to read. Even managed to get a noodle arm reference back in there.
Is it fair to say the Jeep Wrangler has now entered the SPS lexicon and available for use in future topics? Analogies can make my head hurt and that looked like it was a long one so I stopped reading. Then it got so many compliments I went back and have to say that was pretty good. Perd put some thought into that one. Well done.
How much do we actually have in NIL? Several people mention we're fine while providing no specific amounts and no comparisons to the NIL budgets at other SEC schools. Where are the specific figures and how we compare to other SEC schools? To me it's like saying we had a good year, as good as other SEC schools, without specifically mentioning wins and losses.
I voted for baseball because I like baseball. I have this weird notion that I should spend my money on things I like the most and find the most entertaining. I do that with movies and restaurants and vacation destinations too. Admittedly, I don't watch State specifically to help the athletics department. I do so to be entertained, get value for my money and because I'm emotionally invested in State as a graduate. Neither my wife nor my kids are State graduates, btw. Don't think I can tell the missus when med school tuition is an issue for daughters that we need to throw some cash at the State athletics program to make it better.
Alabama won because of Saban and not because of the average fan. I can say "we can" all I want and it won't matter if coaching and recruiting are sub-par. I don't think we actually ever invested more in baseball than football. Any data to show this other than the foolishness of overspending on a stadium?
Blaming fans for losses doesn't make sense to me. I guess the Saints would have gone to the playoffs but for the fans and their selfishness and those misguided Nola peeps who don't support their hometown NFL team and do things like shopping on Sundays or enjoying a festival with their families.
Where's the data on this? Is this a hunch, an aspiration or do you actually have data on NIL budgets at these schools?
Exactly.
Show us the Data.
Otherwise I think of this as like the Springfield Monorail…
Show us the Data.
Otherwise I think of this as like the Springfield Monorail…
We have as much NIL money as others. Believe me even though there's no publicly available data showing this. Also, I won gold at the 2020 Olympics. Trust me. You don't need proof. I said it so it's true. After all, what type of person might actually be wrong about something on a sports message board?***
If anything, State fans should be admired for sticking with our teams through a host of lean years.
Question. When DS started this thread what was your guess the results would be ? I would have guessed 70% football and the rest split about evenly between the other 2. Interesting.
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This has made me verklempt……Let me give you a topic to discuss amongst yourselves:
“Half-@$$ is better than no @$$.”
Discuss. ***************
“Lean.” For a pork barrel university, that is pretty rich*************
That seems to be a standard response for you. You are just flat out lying here, I suspect you are about the other people you accuse of that.
I mostly agree with your overall point -- that we can compete in football and that the lion's share of our resources should be poured into football. That said, you need to let someone else sell that viewpoint, because you are such a cock sucker that it makes me wish I could change my vote to baseball.
Charlie does the Lord’s work but you don’t have to be a Rocket Scientist to note the following…
Mississippi State University has:
• One of the two smallest alumni bases in the Southeastern Conference.
• Is based in the poorest state in the United States.
• If we are to trust many of the same people who’ve posted on this here messageboard in the past several years, our alumni base is paying more and more for services that have increased due to inflation and has LESS DISCRETIONARY SPENDING.
And I am expected to believe we have a very well-funded NIL program?
That 6-6 with a UMiss win looks mighty tasty. That would be a damn good indication that Lebby has things on the right track.
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