Whatever. I do have it from a good source. A real source, not some message board or I read it somewhere.I got it from a friends sons, friend of a friends girlfriends acquaintance type thing that Will was done real ****** by arnett. I don’t think he’s a great QB or anything but hope the best for him.
Was trying to corroborate. I guess it came out wrong.Whatever. I do have it from a good source. A real source, not some message board or I read it somewhere.
I’ll definitely watch when I can. I’m pulling for him. He was a great bulldog. Represented the team and university with class. Hope he tears it up this year.
I can understand some guys being indifferent, which seems like most of the crowd here is. But I don’t understand the few that seem to want Will to fail.
Agree. I watched their spring game. Oof!I’ll be surprised if Will has a good year or even keeps his job this season.
Yep. I hope he kills it!I will definitely try to watch him and see how he performs. Hope he tears it up.
Also will pay attention to USC and Marks.
Amazing how much vitriol is spewed at our record setting QB. Will is / was who he is. Against mediocre D's he shined but didn't have the ability to handle pass rushes from quality D's which was some of the most painful & frustrating STATE offensive (Pun Intended) football I've ever watched. Trashing him the way I see many do however is based on emotion rather than logic and makes our fan base appear weak & stupid. (Prolly fat & drunk too)Noodle arm will suck with anyone not named Leach.
But our fans thought he sucked (Leach).
Bless our hearts. &tate 4 Eva
I was not a fan. I think he held us back. He was made average by Leach. I didn’t think he was a D1 QB when he was in high school. None of this is personal.Amazing how much vitriol is spewed at our record setting QB. Will is / was who he is. Against mediocre D's he shined but didn't have the ability to handle pass rushes from quality D's which was some of the most painful & frustrating STATE offensive (Pun Intended) football I've ever watched. Trashing him the way I see many do however is based on emotion rather than logic and makes our fan base appear weak & stupid. (Prolly fat & drunk too)
Agree that when Will's records are discussed, play calling needs to be "thrown" in.I was not a fan. I think he held us back. He was made average by Leach. I didn’t think he was a D1 QB when he was in high school. None of this is personal.
The next QB Leach coached would have probably broken all his records too. I think we all agree those records are due to Leach, let’s not be intentionally stupid here. Will was adequate as the bridge guy for the first few years until we got Leach guys in here.
I sure don’t fault him for transferring. He should have left last year.
Yes. Will was a good Bulldog & gave us everything he had for 4 years. Can’t blame him for leaving. I hope he does well.I've said it before, I'll say it again. If you are anything beyond indifferent on the negative side it says everything about you and nothing about Will. It's just 17ing sad and weird.
Lying to Will is a huge part of how last season was wasted. Is there some reason all the low iq posters migrated to elite dawgs ?Who cares that Will was lied to. It’s the fact that those clowns wasted last season. But in the long run we are better for it. We didn’t need Noodle sticking around for another year or 2 and prolonging the painful transition.
Go look at Shapen’s highlight reel on YouTube. Noodle isn’t making any of those throws
Definitely and will be pulling for him.I will definitely try to watch him and see how he performs. Hope he tears it up.
Also will pay attention to USC and Marks.
I don't know if he's a pos but he IS a bonehead.Arnett is a bona fide POS. He really showed his true colors last year. Glad he’s on the Lane Train now….
The CW*****Maybe. What channel is Washington on in Noxapater?
I am still absolutely amazed how anyone could interview this guy and offer him a head coaching job in the SEC......regardless of the situation. Calling him a "bonehead" is actually a compliment.I don't know if he's a pos but he IS a bonehead.
Maybe they would have, or maybe not. But they didn’t. In part because they couldn’t beat Will out for the starting job.You only had to watch Minshew or Harrell to see what that system was capable of. Locke or Parson would have lit it up
This thread is a perfect example of why MSU, from the top down, should have analyzed itself going forward in this new era and really developed a plan on how to maximize the football program going forward.
For example, we know Will was a below average FBS QB. We also know Leach made him better, along with many other players on the roster. We should have clued in on that. And while I don’t agree, we have many fans saying our talent wasn’t great and Leach didn’t recruit. Well, the players sure played well, so something is amiss.
Seeing all these things, we should have made a concentrated, intentional effort to find another coach like Leach, or some other niche system that we would commit our program towards. I know there isn’t many of them. But with a commitment to it, we’d have found someone. Cohen knew this, he tried to warn us.
But instead, we went Moo U and operated out of fear, and once we corrected that, we are now attempting to compete with the big boys by doing what they do. It’s never worked before, so I sure don’t think it’ll work now, since it’s harder to do in this era. And then throwing away our only historical successful football branding, just exasperates things.
People wonder why I’m jaded. Now you know.
Im not talking about when they were freshman. Locke and Parson both have a lot more physical talent than Will and would have excelled in Leachs offense. You have to look at some of rhe qbs Leach had at Tech and WSU that really played well, most didnt have the pedigree of Locke or Parson.Maybe they would have, or maybe not. But they didn’t. In part because they couldn’t beat Will out for the starting job.
Definite demarcation of eras pre-Nil/transfer portal and post. What worked in the past absolutely wont work now. Need to be different if you dont have big boy resources to buy players.This thread is a perfect example of why MSU, from the top down, should have analyzed itself going forward in this new era and really developed a plan on how to maximize the football program going forward.
For example, we know Will was a below average FBS QB. We also know Leach made him better, along with many other players on the roster. We should have clued in on that. And while I don’t agree, we have many fans saying our talent wasn’t great and Leach didn’t recruit. Well, the players sure played well, so something is amiss.
Seeing all these things, we should have made a concentrated, intentional effort to find another coach like Leach, or some other niche system that we would commit our program towards. I know there isn’t many of them. But with a commitment to it, we’d have found someone. Cohen knew this, he tried to warn us.
But instead, we went Moo U and operated out of fear, and once we corrected that, we are now attempting to compete with the big boys by doing what they do. It’s never worked before, so I sure don’t think it’ll work now, since it’s harder to do in this era. And then throwing away our only historical successful football branding, just exasperates things.
People wonder why I’m jaded. Now you know.
Stop the shame routine. Obviously I care about MSU or I wouldn’t be here. Definitely like an addiction.For someone who's jaded, you sure seem to indicate a massive amount of interest on this board.
That’s a pretty good comparison. I do think, however, most MSU fans probably relate more to Shrader considering the type of player he was. But both he and Noodle made the choice that was best for them after sticking things out for a year.If Washington happens to be on when I happen to look for something to watch?...yeah I'll watch.
Sorta like Syracuse the last couple years.