Wisconsin fires Paul Chryst

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It is not good for the Big Ten West. So, Wisky no longer has an easy a path to a NY6 Bowl and possibly CFP. They cannot avoid Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State as much anymore. So, tougher conference slate, coupled with Wisky's (as of now) limited NIL opportunities is a serious issue to maintain any semblance of success within the conference and generate the interest/fanbase/money needed.
This is what USC did last year with the secret knowledge of potentially joining the Big. If they didn't they would quickly morph into Cal and Stanford, or worse the Arizona schools.

Lincoln Riley similarly knew going into the SEC would turn OU into Missouri or Texas A&M . Again secretly ???
 
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Actually....maybe not....but I saw something online that was pretty intersting....I will paraphrase

"When USC and UCLA join the conference, the divisions will go away. That is good for Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana and perhaps Michigan State. It is not good for the Big Ten West. So, Wisky no longer has an easy a path to a NY6 Bowl and possibly CFP. They cannot avoid Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State as much anymore. So, tougher conference slate, coupled with Wisky's (as of now) limited NIL opportunities is a serious issue to maintain any semblance of success within the conference and generate the interest/fanbase/money needed. Wisky needs someone who can really resonate with recruits, play an exciting brand of football. to generate the dollars they need."

I think Chryst is a good guy, but he is not the energetic coach kids look may resonate with. He comes from that old school Alvarez mold (although I think Barry was a snake oil salesman)
This makes sense.
 

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There aren’t that many situations where this applies. I say you take the chance - elite talent on the OL is worth the one scholarship risk.
That elite talent, according to others here, is second string to a freshman and a sophomore.
 
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That elite talent, according to others here, is second string to a freshman and a sophomore.

Arrington didn’t start until year two despite being, well, Arrington. With few exceptions (Pace, Ogden) elite OTs don’t do a whole lot early on.
 
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Nope. The whole family can stay in Wisconsin for my money,
Well I don't know whether either of the Rucci kids are considering entering the portal with this firing or whether, if they do, either has any interest in PSU and vice versa. However, if Nolan in particular is interested and PSU thinks he is as talented as the so-called "experts" claimed he was coming out of high school, it would be foolish not to consider asking him to come here. It's not as if PSU has been cranking out future All-Pro offensive lineman recently.
 

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Well I don't know whether either of the Rucci kids are considering entering the portal with this firing or whether, if they do, either has any interest in PSU and vice versa. However, if Nolan in particular is interested and PSU thinks he is as talented as the so-called "experts" claimed he was coming out of high school, it would be foolish not to consider asking him to come here. It's not as if PSU has been cranking out future All-Pro offensive lineman recently.
This would be a slam dunk fit, IMO. I don't know how Rucci projects two years into his college career, but PSU would have to give it serious consideration. I have to imagine Rucci knows about how much hard work goes into success based on his dad's playing career. That's a darned good foundation for success that many prospects don't have.
 

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I don’t think coaches really have that luxury these days with the portal and 85 scholarships. I’m pretty sure for much of Joe’s career there was a 100 scholarship limit?
urther football scholarship reductions were made in 1978 – down to 95 – and again in 1992, when football scholarships were limited to 85. These changes now apply to Division I-A schools; Division I-AA schools are allotted 63 scholarships. In the 2020 to 2021 school year, per Statista, there were 74,173 scholarships awarded to women and 77,784 awarded to men. There were over 3,000 more scholarships available to men than to women during this particular school year.
 

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Well I don't know whether either of the Rucci kids are considering entering the portal with this firing or whether, if they do, either has any interest in PSU and vice versa. However, if Nolan in particular is interested and PSU thinks he is as talented as the so-called "experts" claimed he was coming out of high school, it would be foolish not to consider asking him to come here. It's not as if PSU has been cranking out future All-Pro offensive lineman recently.

While it is true Penn State hasn't been cranking out future all-pro lineman I think it is fair to say that we had a lost decade in that regard.
We are just starting to get back to where we used to be in regards to talent. Now let's hope we can develop it.

I will also point out, despite our lost decade, we still have 5 lineman in the league. Wisconsin has 7 and OSU has 10 and Mich has 7.
Oddly Michigan is mostly guards whilst the others are tackles.
 
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Arrington didn’t start until year two despite being, well, Arrington. With few exceptions (Pace, Ogden) elite OTs don’t do a whole lot early on.
Arrington didn’t start until year 2 because Joe thought he was immature. However, he did play special teams and was clearly a standout from Day 1.
 

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Arrington didn’t start until year 2 because Joe thought he was immature. However, he did play special teams and was clearly a standout from Day 1.

Gatten played over him. Sometimes talent has to wait.
 

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Well I don't know whether either of the Rucci kids are considering entering the portal with this firing or whether, if they do, either has any interest in PSU and vice versa. However, if Nolan in particular is interested and PSU thinks he is as talented as the so-called "experts" claimed he was coming out of high school, it would be foolish not to consider asking him to come here. It's not as if PSU has been cranking out future All-Pro offensive lineman recently.
I have nothing against either one of the boys. My issue is with Dad. But I would not be giving 2 scholarships for one player.
 

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Did Rucci commit to UW because of Paul Chryst? I remember when that recruitment was going on that it was reported that he struck up a good relationship with Joe Rudolph, the OC/OL coach. As a Badger alum, he’ll probably be retained by Leonhard. Do we really know if PSU was even his 2nd choice?
 

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Did Rucci commit to UW because of Paul Chryst? I remember when that recruitment was going on that it was reported that he struck up a good relationship with Joe Rudolph, the OC/OL coach. As a Badger alum, he’ll probably be retained by Leonhard. Do we really know if PSU was even his 2nd choice?

Rudolph is the OL coach at Virginia Tech this year.
 

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Seems like quite a number of college coaches have been fired in the middle of the season. Making the college game feel more like the NFL.

Whats next? Fire professors in the middle of the semester?
 

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Seems like quite a number of college coaches have been fired in the middle of the season. Making the college game feel more like the NFL.

Whats next? Fire professors in the middle of the semester?
Depends on when their buy out kicks in.
 
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I saw a headline last night stating that Chryst took $11 MM as his buyout from WISKY. o_O . Per his contract, his buyout was $16.8 MM if he was fired without cause. I had read that there was a possibility that the actual buyout would be negotiated.

Dumb question: Why would Chryst take less for his buyout?

Or was Chryst fired with cause? ‘Cause he sucked! o_O
 
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I hope Matt Rhule doesn’t end up in Madison.
Rhule on the hot seat

The Burnt Rumps: Positively endangered​

Matt Rhule, Panthers (1-3): He says all the right things, but his teams rarely do them. The chief issue, as anyone with eyes could've predicted, remains the QB spot, where every one of his gambles -- Baker Mayfield being the latest and current -- have come up short. The Panthers are now a combined 11-26 since he took over.

Could be the guy for the job. He's used to selecting and coaching bad QBs. He'd fit right in at Wisconsin.
 
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Rhule on the hot seat

The Burnt Rumps: Positively endangered​

Matt Rhule, Panthers (1-3): He says all the right things, but his teams rarely do them. The chief issue, as anyone with eyes could've predicted, remains the QB spot, where every one of his gambles -- Baker Mayfield being the latest and current -- have come up short. The Panthers are now a combined 11-26 since he took over.

Could be the guy for the job. He's used to coaching bad QBs. He'd fit right in at Wisconsin.
The last explosive QB that Wisky had was Russell Wilson.
 

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Rhule on the hot seat

The Burnt Rumps: Positively endangered​

Matt Rhule, Panthers (1-3): He says all the right things, but his teams rarely do them. The chief issue, as anyone with eyes could've predicted, remains the QB spot, where every one of his gambles -- Baker Mayfield being the latest and current -- have come up short. The Panthers are now a combined 11-26 since he took over.

Could be the guy for the job. He's used to selecting and coaching bad QBs. He'd fit right in at Wisconsin.

If Rhule is fired by the Panthers, does the Penn State Booster Mafia™️ use its influence to get him here in place of Franklin? Kraft should be prepared for this.
 
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The last explosive QB that Wisky had was Russell Wilson.
And NC State claims him!
 

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If Rhule is fired by the Panthers, does the Penn State Booster Mafia™️ use its influence to get him here in place of Franklin? Kraft should be prepared for this.

CJF's seat is toasty, but only because it's covered in Rolls-Royce lambswool. With his contract/buyout, he's around at least another five years unless someone backs up the money wagon. And there are schools desperate enough to do it. For now....

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Arrington didn’t start until year two despite being, well, Arrington. With few exceptions (Pace, Ogden) elite OTs don’t do a whole lot early on.
+100. I remember when we played UVA and they had they had a true freshman in DBrickashaw Ferguson and Michael Haynes just abused him.
Ferguson went on to have a very, very good college and NFL career.
 

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Schadenfreude aside, this is no way to run a program. I am absolutely floored they fired him.
You are not going to get Saban like returns everywhere, much less Wisconsin.

There are going to be ups and downs and you just have to enjoy the ride.

Unless there was something else there that we don't know about it makes not sense.
Going out and getting a big name hire doesn't always work out, look at A&M.....They are 3-2 with a game against Bama coming up
 

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Dumb question: Why would Chryst take less for his buyout?

Often, buyout clauses are written so the buyout is paid over an extended period of time and is reduced/cancelled if the coach takes another job before the total is paid out. I’m guessing that this lower negotiated amount will be paid out over a much shorter timeframe allowing him to get another head coaching job sooner, rather than later while still getting a large amount of money from Wisconsin.
 
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Often, buyout clauses are written so the buyout is paid over an extended period of time and is reduced/cancelled if the coach takes another job before the total is paid out. I’m guessing that this lower negotiated amount will be paid out over a much shorter timeframe allowing him to get another head coaching job sooner, rather than later while still getting a large amount of money from Wisconsin.

Thanks. Makes sense.
 

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This would be a slam dunk fit, IMO. I don't know how Rucci projects two years into his college career, but PSU would have to give it serious consideration. I have to imagine Rucci knows about how much hard work goes into success based on his dad's playing career. That's a darned good foundation for success that many prospects don't have.
Well again, this all depends on (1) whether Nolan has any interest in leaving Wisconsin and, if so, (2) whether Penn State thinks he is the player the "experts" claimed he was coming out of high school.
 

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What was the respectful part of the guy's post calling out the board owner? What was the snarky part of the reply?
With all due respect. I thought he was just asking the question. I don't know if there's history there or not since I don't frequent the board. To me he threw that in to be snarky. But it really doesn't matter.
 

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With all due respect. I thought he was just asking the question. I don't know if there's history there or not since I don't frequent the board. To me he threw that in to be snarky. But it really doesn't matter.
So when the first guy said it: OK, but if it's used in response: snark?
 

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Well again, this all depends on (1) whether Nolan has any interest in leaving Wisconsin and, if so, (2) whether Penn State thinks he is the player the "experts" claimed he was coming out of high school.
Fair. I'm not as current on how PSU's OT depth and pipeline looks. It does seem like we have questions at RT...it would be nice to at least have this as an option to pursue if there were mutual interest.
 

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Depends on when their buy out kicks in.
"Wisconsin and Paul Chryst have agreed to a reduced buyout of $11 million, to be paid before Feb. 1, 2023, per a school official. The Badgers were initially on the hook for roughly $19.5 million for terminating Chryst without cause. The UW Foundation will pay the reduced buyout," Matt Fortuna reported.
 

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"Wisconsin and Paul Chryst have agreed to a reduced buyout of $11 million, to be paid before Feb. 1, 2023, per a school official. The Badgers were initially on the hook for roughly $19.5 million for terminating Chryst without cause. The UW Foundation will pay the reduced buyout," Matt Fortuna reported.
OK.....

I was responding to the post about firing professors......

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