Yurcich firing

Bvillebaron

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I’ll play devils advocate. JF talks to MY before games, during games thru headset, during halftime. How could MY go rogue that easily? JF said after the Iowa game that he told MY not to get impatient with the way the game was going and to keep calling the plays that were working. MY did it. If Joe didn’t like the way things were going, he started calling the plays. Why is this supposedly so dysfunctional right now? Doesn’t the buck stop at the head coach?
Joe called plays?
 

s1uggo72

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Typical flippant reaction. I’m not saying all is well in Mudville, but MY’s departure appears to be necessary. At least I try to do research to form an educated opinion.
Not sure you said what you said to my comment, but we did run that formation for a whole game while I was in HS
 

LBUfanatic

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MY may have called the first stupid pet trick play without Franklin knowing or signing off but you can damn well believe Franklin had a hand in or agreed to all the others if the first caught him off guard.
Yeah, should not have posted that here. Go join the Lions Den to find out.
Proving your ignorance with every post.
 
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BobPSU92

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Six OCs in ten years points to the boss being a problem

I still wonder what happened with Ciarocca. Fired after one season, and the COVID season at that. It’s been speculated that Ciarrocca was the victim of Yurcich being available, whom Franklin really wanted for the job. Maybe. I wonder if Ciarocca and Franklin had issues.
 

MtNittany

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The more I think about it, hire Joe Moorhead back as the OC. He's probably about to get fired anyway.
 
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NoSoup4U

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Part of the thinking for that using 2pt play was, they thought UM would be surprised and waste a second half time out, obviously PSU was surprised when UM didn't.
You mean the same exact play scUM used against Purdue in 2022???...precisely the arrogance of the staff thinking they know more than other teams staffs?

 
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One comment that disturbs me is the OC is also tasked with being the QB coach. Why is that the case with an elite P 5 program?
 

Calabrin

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Interesting thread, confirming that many of us are thinking a lot of the same things.

Perhaps the most confusing aspect of Saturday’s game (non-2pc division) is how we’d run a lot on first down, gain yards… then move away from the run. This was pointed out by a number of analysts as well as Michigan fans who admitted they didn’t understand why Penn State didn’t stick with their running game as it appeared to be effective.

Something I had been wondering (and which Franklin alluded to several times) was whether there had been conversations with MY earlier in the season (following Illinois, following OSU, following Indiana) where JF had expressed displeasure with the lack of consistency on offense.

It’s possible that Yurcich’s firing, while seemingly abrupt to all of us, had been on the table for a while. Yurcich, after all, was the one who personally recruited Drew Allar, and then to see Allar develop so — let’s say “slowly” — this season has to be, at a minimum, frustrating for a head coach. This was the kid you wanted. You went out and got him. And now he’s here and you’re not able to do anything with him!

From an observational standpoint, it was obvious to me that there were MAJOR issues as early as the Illinois game; issues that I saw as being systemic, not easily remedied, and would likely plague us throughout the season barring some sort of miracle. That assessment proved to be correct, and it’s not inconceivable that JF felt the same way.

Also, I never buy into the narrative that we’re deliberately playing conservative so as not to tip our hand to tougher opponents. That’s total BS. If your offensive schemes are conservative, or directionless, or overly reliant on gimmicks, it’s because that’s your style as a coach, not because you’re trying to play 4D chess against Ryan Day.

TL;DR — JF might have put MY on notice several times after poor offensive performances, but we simply weren’t told.
 

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For whatever reason(s) Franklin decided the future of Penn State football didn’t include MY. So why wait? Early signing period is next month. We need some receivers from the portal. So make the change now and let our committed recruits and other interested know that a new OC will be on board when they are at PSU.

it’s the correct move and Franklin made a correct and gutsy decision.
 

BostonNit

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Precisely. I think there was a discussion with MY after OSU and the play calling was better against Maryland but back to the same old turtling up against Michigan.
I hated when MY turtled up against OSU in '17 and '18. Oh wait. Nevermind he wasn't the OC then.
 
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Midnighter

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I hated when MY turtled up against OSU in '17 and '18. Oh wait. Nevermind he wasn't the OC then.

Franklin:

 

s1uggo72

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One comment that disturbs me is the OC is also tasked with being the QB coach. Why is that the case with an elite P 5 program?
how many people do you want talking to that kid? HC-OC- QB coach? too many cooks in my opinion.
 

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I still would love to know what JF pulled Manny aside after the game on the field and had a very private side conversation covering their mouths so no one could see what they were saying... was JF telling Manny that MY was gone? I think Manny is very frustrated with the offense. He knows he has the ponies to make a run in the playoffs and the offense has been leaking oil most of the season.
 
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