2022 NCAA Tournament, Session 1 Thread
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The OU kid got shoved but wasn't sure if i missed anything before that. Def got chippy!
if wrestling guys fight to they swing or just try to pin each other?.. asking for @WTNuke
I never understood this. If you can't beat a guy on the mat it's not likely you can beat him in a fight. Sure, you can strike but chances are the other guy turns it into a grappling match.
Not sure, but him being only being a NQ type guy is one of the bigger surprises of the season for me. I know, I know Freestyle =/= folkstyle, but I was thinking he would be challenging AJ this year.
Shave his head and that's Butterbean
Bring back the big boys! I'm not used to all these athletic heavy weights doing stuff like shooting. Lets go back to the days were every 60% of HWT matches went to OT tied 1-1.
I think something like 85% of fights end up on the ground. Even in MMA, it's no surprise that the most common base is wrestling. Throw in some BJJ subs and learning that being on your back is better than your stomach and away you go.
When my son started wrestling, they had to teach him not to pull guard if being taken down. Was pretty funny actually.
285 R1: Kerk vs. Brandon Metz (North Dakota (hmm, I think I'll use Metz instead of initials)
Per 1
Kerk in on double shot which he switches to a single for a TD, 2-0. Met to his feet and nearly out but Kerk stay with him. OOB with 2:11 left. Metz tries to stand but is flattened. And a stalemate. Metz not doing a lot on bottom, but Kerk not doing much to tilt him. RT goes over 2 min. Ref tells Metz to get active, but it doesn't have much impact. End. RT @ 2:41 for Kerk
Per 2
Metz takes bottom. He quickly gets flattened. Kerk working a one-on-one but not much happening. Metz finally works to his feet and gets driven back down and flattened. Kerk comes under the arm and gets a tilt, he gets swipes, and he gets the pin @ 4:17!!!!!
Per 1
Kerk in on double shot which he switches to a single for a TD, 2-0. Met to his feet and nearly out but Kerk stay with him. OOB with 2:11 left. Metz tries to stand but is flattened. And a stalemate. Metz not doing a lot on bottom, but Kerk not doing much to tilt him. RT goes over 2 min. Ref tells Metz to get active, but it doesn't have much impact. End. RT @ 2:41 for Kerk
Per 2
Metz takes bottom. He quickly gets flattened. Kerk working a one-on-one but not much happening. Metz finally works to his feet and gets driven back down and flattened. Kerk comes under the arm and gets a tilt, he gets swipes, and he gets the pin @ 4:17!!!!!
Sorry I got it wrong guys. I am such a loser. I called a Kerk pin in the first period.
Nice! Takes guts to tilt a man of that size lmao -- turning it into a pinning combination, awesome!
Nice exclamation point on the session from Kerkvliet.
High risk high reward. Once a guy that that goes over, he ain't coming back.
Matches in Session II for PSU
125 Consolation R1:
Drew Hildebrandt vs. Logan Ashton (Stanford)
133 R2:
#1 seed RBY vs. #16 seed Josh Koderhandt (Navy)
141 R2:
#1 seed Nick Lee vs. #16 seed Quinn Kinner (Rider)
149 R2:
#13 seed Beau Bartlett vs. #4 seed Sammy Sasso (Ohio State)
157 Consolation R1:
#16 seed Brady Berge vs. #33 seed Derek Holzschlag (UNI)
174 R2:
#1 seed Carter Starocci vs. #16 seed Adam Kemp (Cal Poly)
184 R2:
#2 seed Aaron Brooks vs. #15 seed Hunter Bolen (VT)
197 R2:
#1 seed Max Dean vs. #17 seed Jay Aiello (UVA)
285 R2:
#4 seed Greg Kerkvliet vs. #13 seed Tate Orndorff (Ohio State)
125 Consolation R1:
Drew Hildebrandt vs. Logan Ashton (Stanford)
133 R2:
#1 seed RBY vs. #16 seed Josh Koderhandt (Navy)
141 R2:
#1 seed Nick Lee vs. #16 seed Quinn Kinner (Rider)
149 R2:
#13 seed Beau Bartlett vs. #4 seed Sammy Sasso (Ohio State)
157 Consolation R1:
#16 seed Brady Berge vs. #33 seed Derek Holzschlag (UNI)
174 R2:
#1 seed Carter Starocci vs. #16 seed Adam Kemp (Cal Poly)
184 R2:
#2 seed Aaron Brooks vs. #15 seed Hunter Bolen (VT)
197 R2:
#1 seed Max Dean vs. #17 seed Jay Aiello (UVA)
285 R2:
#4 seed Greg Kerkvliet vs. #13 seed Tate Orndorff (Ohio State)
I'm not a wrasslin guru.. but it would seem as though a cardboard cutout would have done as well as Hildebrandt the last 2 times out?
Team Score after Session I:
1. PSU - 15.5
2. Iowa - 12.5
2. Michigan - 12.5
4. ASU - 11.5
5. NC State - 11
5. UNI - 11
7. Nebraska - 10
8. Oregon St. - 8
8. VT - 8
10. Cornell - 7
10. Ohio State - 7
10. Pitt - 7
10. Purdue - 7
10. Wisconsin - 7
15. Mizzou, Ok. St., and Rutgers tied - 6
1. PSU - 15.5
2. Iowa - 12.5
2. Michigan - 12.5
4. ASU - 11.5
5. NC State - 11
5. UNI - 11
7. Nebraska - 10
8. Oregon St. - 8
8. VT - 8
10. Cornell - 7
10. Ohio State - 7
10. Pitt - 7
10. Purdue - 7
10. Wisconsin - 7
15. Mizzou, Ok. St., and Rutgers tied - 6
First session takeaways: https://www.on3.com/teams/penn-stat...-wrestling-ncaa-tournament-session-one-recap/
See everyone at 7!
See everyone at 7!
Exactly what happened at bigs. Lewan pulls it out and berge and hidlebrandt lose with final point.
Just don’t get what is happening with hildebrandt he is just gassed that last two weeks.
If you have never wrestled, you have no idea the amount of mental and physical conditioning that occurs during the season. Not to mention nagging injuries that worsen or, at the very least, linger throughout the season. We have no idea what Hildebrandt has going on in wrestling life, personal life, academic life, etc. Putting the kid down for making the national tournament and losing in OT in the toughest sport on the planet is uncalled for. He has already probably achieved more than anyone on this message board.
The good news is Lewan faces Young in the next round so one of them will get thrown to the consolation bracket. If Cameron Amine wins tonight, he will more than likely face Marinelli in the quarters so one of those guys will get thrown to the consolation bracket.
Amen. He collapsed at year end; I have no idea why. Hopefully, Robbie Howard can come in and do something. Ditto for ‘57 and ‘65.
Been saying the same thing since Suriano left and he's been in college 13 years. Effective 125er about the same frequency as beating OSU in football.
I noticed these. Why change unis at Nationals?
Perhaps we're spoiled at PSU with having classic unis, but I just don't get this.
Perhaps we're spoiled at PSU with having classic unis, but I just don't get this.
A tad early to assess, but let's take a look
125:
PSU - #16 seed Drew Hildebrandt
Iowa - #13 seed Drake Ayala
Mich - #1 seed Nick Suriano
- Hildebrandt and Ayala lost; Suriano won. Hildebrandt @ #17 lost to #16 -- kind of a toss-up. Ayala @ #13 lost to #20. PSU and Iowa were hoping for/expecting wins here. Michigan assumed they'd get a win. So, below expectations for PSU and Iowa; met expectations for Michigan
133:
PSU - #1 seed RBY
Iowa - #5 seed Austin DeSanto
Mich - #6 seed Dylan Ragusin
- RBY won by MAJor, DeSanto won by TF, Ragusin won by DEC. RBY and DeSanto were expected to win and they both got bonus points. A slight plus for Iowa as DeSanto got a TF. Ragusin won but did not score bonus points, so a negative for them
141:
PSU - #1 seed Nick Lee
Iowa - #2 seed Jaydin Eierman
Mich - #24 seed Stevan Micic
Lee won by MAJor, Eierman won by DEC, and Micic lost. Lee and Eierman were expected to win. A plus for PSU as they scored bonus and Iowa did not. Michigan was probably hoping that Micic could summon some of his former prowess, but he was a #24 facing a #9 seed, so by chalk his defeat was expected
149:
PSU - #13 seed Beau Bartlett
Iowa - #8 seed Max Murin
Mich - no wrestler
- Bartlett won by DEC, and Murin won by fall. A plus for Iowa with the bonus points, especially since that was the only fall at 149.
157:
PSU - #16 seed Brady Berge
Iowa - #9 seed Kaleb Young
Mich - #8 seed Will Lewan
- Berge lost, Young won by DEC, Lewan won in SV. Berge was in a #16 vs. #17 match, so that's a tossup, and the match was really close. Young won by 1 point in a DEC. Lewan won 4-2 in SV. PSU was hoping/expecting a win from Brady, but by seed it was a toss-up, whereas Young and Lewan were expected to win. A slight plus for Iowa and for Mich
165:
PSU - no wrestler
Iowa - #3 seed Alex Marinelli
Mich - #6 seed Cameron Amine
- Marinelli won by DEC and Amine won by DEC. Marinelli was a 3 seed vs a #30 seed, and Amine was a 6 seed vs a #27 seed. PSU scored what they expected. Iowa and Mich got advancement, but both were likely disappointed in not getting bonus
174:
PSU - #1 seed Carter Starocci
Iowa - #5 seed Michael Kemerer
Mich - #3 seed Logan Massa
- CStar won by PIN, Kemerer won by DEC,and Massa won by MAJor. A plus for PSU, a negative for Iowa, and a push for Mich
184:
PSU - #2 seed Aaron Brooks
Iowa - #18 seed Abe Assad
Mich - #1 seed Myles Amine
- Brooks won by MAJor, Assad lost DEC, and Amin won by TF. A slight plus for Mich in getting extra bonus points but it's about what PSU and Mich expected. Iowa had a #18 against a #15 seed (Bolen, VT), so by chalk they should have expected the outcome. I'm sure they were hoping for a win
197:
PSU - #1 seed Max Dean
Iowa - #6 seed Jacob Warner
Mich - #4 seed Patrick Brucki
- Dean won by TF, Warner won by MAJor, and Brucki won by DEC. A slight advantage for PSU, and a disappointment for Mich
285:
PSU - #4 seed Kerk
Iowa - #3 seed Tony Cassioppi
Mich - #7 seed Mason Parris
- Kerk won by PIN, Cassioppi won by DEC, and Parris won by MAJor. A plus for PSU, a disappointment for Iowa, and a slight plus for Mich
That's the data for each weight class. Others can draw overall conclusions.
