2022 Winter Olympics Thread

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I've been reading articles about the Chinese team hoping for its own Miracle on Ice against Team USA, especially since the NHL opted out. It's now 6-0. Too bad.

And China still has to play Canada and Germany in group play. I'll bet Canada will score ten on them.
 

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I have to admit I haven't been following too closely with the posturing and such. I just thought she could be someone the young women in China could look up too much like with what Yao Ming did for basketball in China. But I do understand that young women in China do what they are told.

My daughter is a soccer nut and hates the idea that she would "play" for another Country.
You are raising a good kid.

Thanks to social media and the internet, selfishness is condoned and celebrated. Gu is all about herself, and the statements about uplifting Chinese girls is BS.
 

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Military kids born abroad are American by birth. And those who become Olympians has to be extremely low. So, not a good example IMO. Limit it to country of citizenship. If you have dual, you can pick. Done and done.
Well China doesn't allow for dual citizenship and Gu wouldn't answer if she renounced her American Citizenship which I am sure she didn't since she recently applied for something that required you be an American Citizen so I guess in China they make exceptions for rules when it benefits them. I think it is wrong she competes for China and if she feels she should maybe she should live there then but i doubt she ever will.
 

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I’d rather not compete in a sport then. I’m not a nationalist or anything, but jeez, the point is to represent the country you were born in. Just do away with country representation and have a big amateur sports fest.
This is not new to international competitions, but somehow someone spun people up on this like it's going to somehow impact their lives. The US Mens soccer team is full of dual citizens as are a ton of other countries. Hell there are set of brothers that has one play for the US and the other for El Salavador. I guess according to the logic I read in this thread the parents aren't good parents? Whatever that hell that is supposed to mean. I really wish people would stop getting gaslit or allowing themselves to fall for it. I'm not directing this at you at all....but this hysteria others are showing over this is kind of mind boggling.
 

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This is not new to international competitions, but somehow someone spun people up on this like it's going to somehow impact their lives. The US Mens soccer team is full of dual citizens as are a ton of other countries. Hell there are set of brothers that has one play for the US and the other for El Salavador. I guess according to the logic I read in this thread the parents aren't good parents? Whatever that hell that is supposed to mean. I really wish people would stop getting gaslit or allowing themselves to fall for it. I'm not directing this at you at all....but this hysteria others are showing over this is kind of mind boggling.
Zero hysteria. I simply don’t respect selfishness. Yes, I complimented another poster, because his daughter expressed an appreciation for something beyond herself. You may disagree with my opinion, but don’t be a d*ck and step on a compliment. There was no need to get petty.
 

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Zero hysteria. I simply don’t respect selfishness. Yes, I complimented another poster, because his daughter expressed an appreciation for something beyond herself. You may disagree with my opinion, but don’t be a d*ck and step on a compliment. There was no need to get petty.

LOL, ok.
 

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This is not new to international competitions, but somehow someone spun people up on this like it's going to somehow impact their lives. The US Mens soccer team is full of dual citizens as are a ton of other countries. Hell there are set of brothers that has one play for the US and the other for El Salavador. I guess according to the logic I read in this thread the parents aren't good parents? Whatever that hell that is supposed to mean. I really wish people would stop getting gaslit or allowing themselves to fall for it. I'm not directing this at you at all....but this hysteria others are showing over this is kind of mind boggling.
Regarding China, the main issue many have is the hypocrisy. They don't allow dual citizenship - unless it'll somehow make their society look more powerful. If they manage to win a hockey game with a bunch of Canadians on their team it'll be touted as the ascension of China as an ice hockey power.

Other countries allow dual citizenship even if their citizens may compete under their other passport. If they have a policy and are true to it, good on them.
 
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Regarding China, the main issue many have is the hypocrisy. They don't allow dual citizenship - unless it'll somehow make their society look more powerful. If they manage to win a hockey game with a bunch of Canadians on their team it'll be touted as the ascension of China as an ice hockey power.

Other countries allow dual citizenship even if their citizens may compete under their other passport. If they have a policy and are true to it, good on them.
That is fine, but I was referring to people blasting the 18 year old and acting like this is some huge deal. Maybe someday she regrets the decision or maybe something positive comes out of it down the line for others like them changing their stance on the dual citizenships. We see the same petty attitude here if a kid transfers too by some that cannot handle it....not pointing this at you or anyone in particular. I just find it odd people getting so worked up over it.
 

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This is not new to international competitions, but somehow someone spun people up on this like it's going to somehow impact their lives. The US Mens soccer team is full of dual citizens as are a ton of other countries. Hell there are set of brothers that has one play for the US and the other for El Salavador. I guess according to the logic I read in this thread the parents aren't good parents? Whatever that hell that is supposed to mean. I really wish people would stop getting gaslit or allowing themselves to fall for it. I'm not directing this at you at all....but this hysteria others are showing over this is kind of mind boggling.

This isn't international soccer and raiding athletes from other countries goes against the spirit of 'interanational competition' of the Olympics. We are all global citizens and everyone in America is an immigrant, but jeez, how can anyone enjoy all the stretching of rules to the extent possible to stack your team/bench? Gu for example is likely never an accomplished skiier if not for her opportunity in America. And the 'it goes' both ways' thing doesn't make it better; again, I'd rather have everyone just have their own countrymen/women and see what happens. Win at all costs shouldn't be the message of the Olympics (and it mostly is anyway, which is why few people care about it). /rant
 

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Zero hysteria. I simply don’t respect selfishness. Yes, I complimented another poster, because his daughter expressed an appreciation for something beyond herself. You may disagree with my opinion, but don’t be a d*ck and step on a compliment. There was no need to get petty.
The issue that some don't seem to appreciate is that everyone's situation is different...I'm American born, parents American born, grandparents American born (and from 4 different nationalities), and need to go back to great-grandparents to find immigrants. For me, it's pretty clear cut as to who I'm representing, but that isn't true for all.

For those who have parents that were immigrants, spend large chunks of time in other countries, were born in other countries, it's a lot different. I think of my former next door neighbors where the parents both immigrated from China, and their daughters were born in the US. They speak primarily Chinese in their house, they girls spend time every summer in China with their grandparents, most of the parents social circle is Chinese (at their birthday party one year, the four of us in my family were the only white people there), etc. Those girls were born in the United States and have lived here their whole lives...but culturally, they identify very closely with the Chinese, and seeing them decide to represent China in the Olympics wouldn't be in any way "selfish".

International soccer has a lot of the same aspects at play...we've got guys on the US Men's team with very different backgrounds. Some born abroad but moving to the US at a young age, some moving here to play professionally and then becoming a citizen, some with what many would likely see as very loose affiliations (ie, father was American, never spent a day in the country, etc). We also face a lot of the reverse...guys born in the US and living here their whole lives, but their parents came from Mexico and they spent their whole lives rooting for Mexico and dream of representing them on the national stage, not the US.
 

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Sad Boy Meets World GIF
 

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This isn't international soccer and raiding athletes from other countries goes against the spirit of 'interanational competition' of the Olympics. We are all global citizens and everyone in America is an immigrant, but jeez, how can anyone enjoy all the stretching of rules to the extent possible to stack your team/bench? Gu for example is likely never an accomplished skiier if not for her opportunity in America. And the 'it goes' both ways' thing doesn't make it better; again, I'd rather have everyone just have their own countrymen/women and see what happens. Win at all costs shouldn't be the message of the Olympics (and it mostly is anyway, which is why few people care about it). /rant
Dual citizens do play for other countries and in the Olympics for various sports......this isn't anything new. It's as if some are just finding out about this. Basketball, soccer, swimming, hockey....track and field....this isn't new. Sorry, but not really bothered by her decision, it's her life. What makes America better than China is the freedom for her to do this. She stated her reasons and some don't like it which is fine. I guess the rub is China for some, but US citizens have participated for other countries before and even won medals.
 
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Dual citizens do play for other countries and in the Olympics for various sports......this isn't anything new. It's as if some are just finding out about this. Basketball, soccer, swimming, hockey....track and field....this isn't new. Sorry, but not really bothered by her decision, it's her life. What makes America better than China is the freedom for her to do this. She stated her reasons and some don't like it which is fine. I guess the rub is China for some, but US citizens have participated for other countries before and even won medals.

Good point. Is Gu a dual citizen? I'm under the impression China does not allow for dual citizenship. So, she's either an American suiting up for China and getting and exemption, or she's Chinese. My guess is based on her treatment there, which is not the same as other Chinese nationals (freely able to move about and leave the country, million dollar endorsement deals, access to best skiing instructors and facilities in America, etc.), it's the former. I don't believe she's naive enough to think she's treated the same as everyone else there given she has the grades for Stanford, but I did find it ironic that a post she made on social media about internet freedom in China was promptly deleted (because you know, censorship). But, I don't mind Gu (or someone like her, whose parent is or was a foreign national before becoming naturalized), I'm more interested/opposed to how Chris Chelios's son suits up for China simply because he played professionally there.
 
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Ayumu Hirano on a snowboard is a lot of fun to watch. The air he gets coming out of a halfpipe is just incredible. I enjoyed watching that. Shaun White went out strong, too. That was fun to watch.
 

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Ayumu Hirano on a snowboard is a lot of fun to watch. The air he gets coming out of a halfpipe is just incredible. I enjoyed watching that. Shaun White went out strong, too. That was fun to watch.

Oh, and now we get women's super g, another great competition to watch. Good night for the Olympics.
 
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Ayumu Hirano on a snowboard is a lot of fun to watch. The air he gets coming out of a halfpipe is just incredible. I enjoyed watching that. Shaun White went out strong, too. That was fun to watch.

the score on Hirano's 2nd run was embarrassing. So he went out and basically did the same run, perhaps a tad better, and he was appropriately judged as being the best.

The Flying Tomato has pulled competitions out so often on the last run that I thought he might do it one last time. He ended up in 4th, at 35 years old. He is the GOAT in male halfpipe snowboarding, and has been a joy to watch compete over the years.
 

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the score on Hirano's 2nd run was embarrassing. So he went out and basically did the same run, perhaps a tad better, and he was appropriately judged as being the best.

The Flying Tomato has pulled competitions out so often on the last run that I thought he might do it one last time. He ended up in 4th, at 35 years old. He is the GOAT in male halfpipe snowboarding, and has been a joy to watch compete over the years.

Yeah, I thought fourth for him was great. He definitely wanted a medal, but I wasn't sure if he'd be in the top half of the final group (sixth or better), so I thought it was a good showing for him. That competition was fun to watch. I enjoyed it.
 

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Women's Ice Hockey, Quarterfinal: USA vs. Czech Republic

USA is dominating, and the Czech Republic didn't get their 1st shot off until @ 15 minutes left in the 2nd half (versus the USA having 20 shots at the time). And .. the Czech Republic scores on their 1st shot, to take a 0-1 lead.

The USA answered 48 sec. later to tie the match, 1-1

Edit: Still 1-1 at the end of the 3rd period. The Czech goalie is the difference in the game, as the USA are totally outshooting them.

Edit 2: USA finally takes the lead, 2-1, with 13 min. left in the game. The Czech goalie had lost her stick, and a shot deflected off of one of her defenders through the 5 hole.
 
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the score on Hirano's 2nd run was embarrassing. So he went out and basically did the same run, perhaps a tad better, and he was appropriately judged as being the best.

The Flying Tomato has pulled competitions out so often on the last run that I thought he might do it one last time. He ended up in 4th, at 35 years old. He is the GOAT in male halfpipe snowboarding, and has been a joy to watch compete over the years.
The American judge should have been booted off for his score Hirano's second run.
 
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In hockey, the Swedish women just got a thorough A$$. BEATING. o_O at the hands of the Canadians. 11-0.
 

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Still no resolution to the new wave of Russian doping. A Russian luger was DQed a few years ago after he tested positive for the same substance as Valieva. The precedent has been set. I'm sure the Russians are trying every excuse in the book. The positive test was from December and shouldn't matter now. She's only 15 years old and therefore didn't know. We don't know who gave it to her. You can't punish us for a first offense since we're not really Russia. We're the ROC!!

It'll be a joke if the IOC lets it slide. Meanwhile, some female ski jumpers were DQed because their clothes were too baggy even though said clothes were cleared for earlier jumps.
 
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The American judge should have been booted off for his score Hirano's second run.

The announcer was going off on the judges. He was expecting a 98 after Hirano finished his second run and was absolutely furious that he only got 91.75. He saved the judges *ss by basically duplicating his run on his last try. How the American judge can score a 89 on that is inexplicable.
 

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Will you watch? I’m ready for them to be over only because the commercials are dreadful
I have not watched it and don't plan to watch it. My own one person protest over the CCP. In my opinion it's an absolute joke the CCP is allowed to host the Olympics. The corrupt IOC should award them to Russia next. Why not?
 
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Now why would you award the Winter olympics to one of the driest cities in the world. They get almost no precipitation during the winter. Wait, I know, bribes.
 

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The announcer was going off on the judges. He was expecting a 98 after Hirano finished his second run and was absolutely furious that he only got 91.75. He saved the judges *ss by basically duplicating his run on his last try. How the American judge can score a 89 on that is inexplicable.
It smelled like that judge wanted White to go out on top as that run was filthy. Glad it worked out for the young man.
 
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