So you are saying we are 58 points better than Va. Tech
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* Complete domination of the paint tonight. One of A&M's big, Patty, played 30 minutes, scoring 0 points and grabbing 2 rebounds. She was just overmatched. A&M was overmatched.
* Cooper is an absolutely electric player. Dawn has to find her meaningful minutes even after Bree returns. She just makes her presence felt when she's on the court.
* I said in a previous post in this thread I've come to accept that LA is good for at least 3 turnovers a game. Yep, she had 3 turnovers tonight. lol. But she played her usual great defensive game. 4 steals on the night.
* Zia is really playing well.
* Cooper is an absolutely electric player. Dawn has to find her meaningful minutes even after Bree returns. She just makes her presence felt when she's on the court.
* I said in a previous post in this thread I've come to accept that LA is good for at least 3 turnovers a game. Yep, she had 3 turnovers tonight. lol. But she played her usual great defensive game. 4 steals on the night.
* Zia is really playing well.
I really do love our freshmen and sophomores, it makes me feel better for next season. Cooper was fun to watch. Feagin is so quick underneath the basket. I like the way Raven handles the ball but it seems like she cant buy a basket right now. Kitts must really be making an impression in practice because im kinda surprised at the amount of minutes shes getting. Any word on Bree Hall other than what i read last night. I do wish that Cardoso would get more aggresive....she still seems too nice!
I think Cooper is everything Rivers was advertised to be
After the game I noticed Dawn with a big hug to Barker and Boston in her ear speaking to her.....glad to see no bridges have been burnt...because you never know.
Janiah frequently comment on our girls insta posts. I think she really respects our girls. She just seems to me that she wants to be the star of a team type of player. Nothing wrong with that but she couldn't be that here especially this season.
Poor Eniya only got 2 minutes of playing time last night :/
There were rumors that she really likes the program and wanted to come here but the team was too stacked. I can respect someone who wants to attempt beat the best instead of be a part of it.
Just not able to go. From what I understand, we have chartered 6 buses for the game. Have a feeling there will a large Gamecock contingent.
I understand Bree will likely be back for Georgia. As far as Kitts, I think Dawn likes her skill set and knows she has a bright future. I can't speak to how she performs in practice. We will be young, but so talented next year. It would really help if Brea and/or LA come back for their super senior year. I'd be shocked if Aliyah or Zia came back as they will be high first round picks.
She got 13 minutes against Ark. most of them once the game was decided. 0 pts 3 rebs 3 turnovers.
I watched Bama vs Georgia replay last night. It was an exciting game. Bama lead by as many as 15, but UGA hung around and the game was decided on the last possession.
There was 'no quit' in Georgia. They have size and strength and play a tough match up zone defense. There will probably be at least one altercation. Every game I've seen of Georgia under the new coach that's been the case.
The problem for Georgia is to upset Carolina, a team has to be able to shoot the 3 imo (think Mizzou, Kentucky last year. Stanford this year) in order to space the floor. Georgia, however, does not shoot the 3 well or often. We lead the nation in defending the 2 pointer. I just can't see a scenario where the Dawgs score enough points to pull the upset. So I'm expecting an ugly win. That is the best way to view this game. Best case scenario for Georgia is to frustratrate us because we are expecting a blow out.
Go Cocks!
There was 'no quit' in Georgia. They have size and strength and play a tough match up zone defense. There will probably be at least one altercation. Every game I've seen of Georgia under the new coach that's been the case.
The problem for Georgia is to upset Carolina, a team has to be able to shoot the 3 imo (think Mizzou, Kentucky last year. Stanford this year) in order to space the floor. Georgia, however, does not shoot the 3 well or often. We lead the nation in defending the 2 pointer. I just can't see a scenario where the Dawgs score enough points to pull the upset. So I'm expecting an ugly win. That is the best way to view this game. Best case scenario for Georgia is to frustratrate us because we are expecting a blow out.
Go Cocks!
I went immediately to the turnover column. She's a junior now. It's fair to wonder if she'll ever overcome that part of her game.
Dark Cock you beat me to the punch, great post
UGA tonight
They play a zone unique to their coach which gave everyone fits last year at UCF. Should have beaten UCONN but messed up in the last minutes.
For them To win the game needs to be in the 50s. Problem is that I don’t think they can score 50 on us.
Their bigs shoot well but have not faced our size on D. They are not a good shooting team in mid range or three
We have a 15 game win streak against UGA with a little synchronicity to it
5 at home
5 away
5 in the SEC tournament
UGA tonight
They play a zone unique to their coach which gave everyone fits last year at UCF. Should have beaten UCONN but messed up in the last minutes.
For them To win the game needs to be in the 50s. Problem is that I don’t think they can score 50 on us.
Their bigs shoot well but have not faced our size on D. They are not a good shooting team in mid range or three
We have a 15 game win streak against UGA with a little synchronicity to it
5 at home
5 away
5 in the SEC tournament
So Cal got pasted by Oregon yesterday and Destiny had a bad game 27 minutes 1-7 for 3 points.
Saniya had a good day in close game
37 minutes 4-6 for 9 points 6rebs 3 assists and 4 steals
With Diamond Johnson out, Rivers is State's primary ball handler and she matches up with the opposing team's top perimeter player on the defensive end. She's proving to be valuable addition. To make a run in the tournament, though, she needs to find her role with Johnson out there. Both like the ball in their hands.
I’m happy for Saniya…..however the more I see Cooper the less concern I have about her transfer. Cooper is a better ball handler, pushes tempo much like Henny and Ty and has picked up the offense much quicker. She is her equal on D and the boards.
I knew she was underrated at #18 and she looks like she could fit in Zia’s shoes quite comfortably next year
PS
Cooper has a 2.2/1 assist to turnover ratio. I know it is in limited time but we have not seen those kind of numbers since Ty. Raven’s is 2.6/1.
Cooper has a 2.2/1 assist to turnover ratio. I know it is in limited time but we have not seen those kind of numbers since Ty. Raven’s is 2.6/1.
Impressive. Coop has the same number of assists as Fletcher but 7 fewer turnovers. By all objective standards, she's been our 2nd best guard (I consider Beal a small forward). I guess she doesn't play more because Dawn likes her out there when Zia is off the court and Zia leads the team in minutes played.
She's got to stop the dumb fouls. I think Dawn mentioned that in the post-game. But I think Coop will fix that. She's already improved a lot from the beginning of the season to now.
I don’t think of Cooper as overly foul prone. Her foul rate is 1 for every 10 minutes played. Not great, but not terrible. Beal’s is exceptional 1/20 especially for what we ask of her.
Could you say more about her dumb fouls? What kind of fouls are you talking about?
Also as a comparison to freshman guards
Last year Bree Hall had ONE assist all season and 23 TOs and a foul rate of 1 every 7 minutes
Rivers had a 1.33/1 assist to turnover ratio and an almost identical fouls per minute to Cooper
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Well, it was mainly just a quote from Dawn Staley after the game that got that in my head. But that's a good point comparing the numbers. But here's the quote from here:
That went pretty much as expected, except I didn't anticipate Zia completely going off.
Warren and Smith hit some tough contested shots for UGA in the 1st half that didn't fall in the 2nd. No one else could pick up the slack. Just not enough offense despite a good defensive effort.
On to the next one.
Warren and Smith hit some tough contested shots for UGA in the 1st half that didn't fall in the 2nd. No one else could pick up the slack. Just not enough offense despite a good defensive effort.
On to the next one.
We also lead the nation in defending the 3 pointer.....
UGA defended us about as physical and as competitively in the 1st half as any opponent has thus far this season, IMO. But they also compiled a number of fouls doing it, and I think that sort of hampered them in the 2nd half. Also, we've been a strong defensive team ourselves (some may say THE best defensive team this season, in the nation), as well as traditionally a strong 2nd-half team under Dawn, and that also played into our pulling away after halftime, I think.
We out-scored UGA 42-22 after halftime, shooting 14-22 (.636) from the field, and 5-7 (.714) from behind the 3-pt. arc. We held UGA to shooting 8-29 (.276) and 0-6 from behind the 3-pt. arc......
Great game by Zia and good 2nd half defense.We also lead the nation in defending the 3 pointer.....
UGA defended us about as physical and as competitively in the 1st half as any opponent has thus far this season, IMO. But they also compiled a number of fouls doing it, and I think that sort of hampered them in the 2nd half. Also, we've been a strong defensive team ourselves (some may say THE best defensive team this season, in the nation), as well as traditionally a strong 2nd-half team under Dawn, and that also played into our pulling away after halftime, I think.
We out-scored UGA 42-22 after halftime, shooting 14-22 (.636) from the field, and 5-7 (.714) from behind the 3-pt. arc. We held UGA to shooting 8-29 (.276) and 0-6 from behind the 3-pt. arc......
Is it my imagination or does Boston seem a bit slower?
No, the problem is that our opponent base their defensive philosophy on stopping Boston. They double and triple team her in the post to ensure that she does not score.
It seems for the last couple of seasons, Boston did not get going until after the SEC season started...here's hoping she goes on a tear the rest of the way..
Right. And even after Zia was going off tonight, UGA continued to double and triple team the post. That's a high compliment.it's unlikely imo that Aliyah repeats as N Player of the Year, but that doesn't mean she isn't the best player. She's so good that opposing teams will concede her teammates open shots in order to stop her.
South Carolina traditionally is a better 2nd-half team than the 1st half. It's almost as if the staff throws talent out there against opponents, and sees what those opponents do AGAINST that talent, or if players are feeling it or not, and then after halftime makes actual game adjustments involving strategy. Defense of course is always the tie-breaker that's consistent.
If you charted the game, South Carolina shot progressively better with each passing period of play, while Georgia shot progressively worse:
1st Period:
USC: 4-16 (25.0%)
UGA: 6-12 (50.0%)
2nd Period:
USC: 4-12 (33.3%)
UGA: 7-17 (41.2%)
3rd Period:
USC: 9-16 (56.3%)
UGA: 4-12 (33.3%)
4th Period:
USC: 5-6 (83.3%)
UGA: 4-17 (23.5%)
That's what I call figuring things out as the game progresses.....
If you charted the game, South Carolina shot progressively better with each passing period of play, while Georgia shot progressively worse:
1st Period:
USC: 4-16 (25.0%)
UGA: 6-12 (50.0%)
2nd Period:
USC: 4-12 (33.3%)
UGA: 7-17 (41.2%)
3rd Period:
USC: 9-16 (56.3%)
UGA: 4-12 (33.3%)
4th Period:
USC: 5-6 (83.3%)
UGA: 4-17 (23.5%)
That's what I call figuring things out as the game progresses.....
Not specifically lack of scoring (I know opponents gear everything toward stopping her) but aggressiveness in general for loose/batted balls in the lane etc.
Her general quickness seems a little off compared to past years - wondering about injury or illness being an issue that I have not heard about.
my wife and I spoke about this very thing last night as well. something seems off in off her play. all players slump, so hopefully, that’s all it is. the fact that the team is still undefeated and in the position they’re in despite her down numbers speaks to the tremendous depth & abilities of the team overall.
I think last night will be the wake up call Aliyah needs. You saw it a little last year as well then she flipped a switch. She’s been getting much less playing time bc the schedule has allowed for our bench to get much needed in game experience do she also isn’t used to the heavy minutes she played last night on top of the aggressive D she endured the entire game.
What's wrong with Aliyah? Is she slow and out of shape? Why are her numbers down?
This pic sums up my response:
Aliyah, Brea and Zia have been starters for 4 years. Fletcher and Saxton are, by far, the weakest pair of starters they've been paired with, especially on offense.. Destanni was a 40% shooter from 3. Fletcher hasn't hit a 3 all season. Saxton's game has regressed. All her point are seemingly put backs or free throws. When was the last time she hit a 12 footer? Even post up buckets from her are rare against P5 competition.
I haven't nothing against either player. They both play hard. I'm just objectively looking at the advanced stats, which place them both in the bottom 3rd of our roster in offensive player rating and offensive win share. (Her Hoop Stats predicted the score of the game to be 69.6 to 51.6, btw. The numbers may not tell the whole story, but pretty close).
By not placing a third option to score in the starting lineup, Dawn is making it too easy for opponents to sell out to stop Boston. I have been accused of thinking Dawn can do no wrong, but I'm a bit disappointed in her here. Our own fans are now questioning whether Aliyah is playing well. That's unfortunate. Dawn needs to come up with a better lineup that will give Aliyah a chance.
Against UGA, Saxton played fewer minutes than Cardoso or Amihere. Importantly, Saxton played zero minutes in the 4th. Cardoso played about 6 minutes in the 4th and Amihere played the entire quarter except garbage time.
"It's not who starts, it's who finishes"
I guess the cliche applies. But why not step on the opponents' necks from the get? Build a lead and then play Feagin, Watkins, Cooper, Kitts in the 4th?
Dawn may have her reasons and it's hard to argue with her success. This post is less about questioning coach and more about defending Aliyah. She is a special player and person. Team first. She's not going to gripe about her "struggles" or point fingers. She's playing the role assigned to her to win another championship. It might not mean putting up big stats, though. So keep that in mind when discussing her performance this season.
This pic sums up my response:
Aliyah, Brea and Zia have been starters for 4 years. Fletcher and Saxton are, by far, the weakest pair of starters they've been paired with, especially on offense.. Destanni was a 40% shooter from 3. Fletcher hasn't hit a 3 all season. Saxton's game has regressed. All her point are seemingly put backs or free throws. When was the last time she hit a 12 footer? Even post up buckets from her are rare against P5 competition.
I haven't nothing against either player. They both play hard. I'm just objectively looking at the advanced stats, which place them both in the bottom 3rd of our roster in offensive player rating and offensive win share. (Her Hoop Stats predicted the score of the game to be 69.6 to 51.6, btw. The numbers may not tell the whole story, but pretty close).
By not placing a third option to score in the starting lineup, Dawn is making it too easy for opponents to sell out to stop Boston. I have been accused of thinking Dawn can do no wrong, but I'm a bit disappointed in her here. Our own fans are now questioning whether Aliyah is playing well. That's unfortunate. Dawn needs to come up with a better lineup that will give Aliyah a chance.
Against UGA, Saxton played fewer minutes than Cardoso or Amihere. Importantly, Saxton played zero minutes in the 4th. Cardoso played about 6 minutes in the 4th and Amihere played the entire quarter except garbage time.
"It's not who starts, it's who finishes"
I guess the cliche applies. But why not step on the opponents' necks from the get? Build a lead and then play Feagin, Watkins, Cooper, Kitts in the 4th?
Dawn may have her reasons and it's hard to argue with her success. This post is less about questioning coach and more about defending Aliyah. She is a special player and person. Team first. She's not going to gripe about her "struggles" or point fingers. She's playing the role assigned to her to win another championship. It might not mean putting up big stats, though. So keep that in mind when discussing her performance this season.
Agree completely. I also bet that if you normalized” her mpg her stats would be close to the same as last year. She’s a tremendous young lady and a “leader” in the truest sense of the word.
Exactly. She's getting mugged where ever shes at on the court. They called 22 fouls on GA. Could/Should have called 50. And not to mention its worse on the road. Case in point, check that "jump" ball they called when Aliyah had the ball. Ga player had her by the arm. Blatant foul but jump ball. Absurd.