'25-'26 PSU Lineup Predictions thread

El_Jefe

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Since when does the athlete make that decision? Don’t they all think they should always start? If they don’t think that way, you probably wouldn’t want them on the team.
 

LB99

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Where is the indication he won't?

We have that about Duke from Willie and implied from Duke himself, but nothing about or from Kasak.
Oh. My mistake. I didn’t realize Willie was the gospel. Kasak went up 2 weight classes since arriving on campus and looked like a full sized 157 last year. He’s also still just 20 yrs old.
 

El_Jefe

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Oh. My mistake. I didn’t realize Willie was the gospel. Kasak went up 2 weight classes since arriving on campus and looked like a full sized 157 last year. He’s also still just 20 yrs old.
In other words, we believe our own evidence-free hypotheses over the wrestlers themselves and the guys who talk to them for a living. I guess this means Barr is going back down to 184 too.
 

LB99

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In other words, we believe our own evidence-free hypotheses over the wrestlers themselves and the guys who talk to them for a living. I guess this means Barr is going back down to 184 too.
Isn’t the entire thread all speculation? So, some speculation is great, differing opinions and speculation is frowned upon. Got it.
 

randyl

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I am pretty sure, well maybe a little bit kinda maybe sure, that Kasak sad he expected to stay at 157 for his career.
 
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Fred8811

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Oh. My mistake. I didn’t realize Willie was the gospel. Kasak went up 2 weight classes since arriving on campus and looked like a full sized 157 last year. He’s also still just 20 yrs old.
Just? Not so fast.
 

tullfan68

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NIL opportunities have changed some kids’ perspective. Extra year of $$ is ok.
its not all about money for all kids!!
Since when does the athlete make that decision? Don’t they all think they should always start? If they don’t think that way, you probably wouldn’t want them on the team.
LOL well the best start the rest can shirt or sit or transfer! lots of options
 

tullfan68

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I think Cael wants to start his best guys and best team, this team is a lot deeper than when Zain shirted so he has more options but I say let's break the record again this yr with his best team!
 
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jtothemfp

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With LP's Trackwrestling Weight Cert post out there, in which Nagao weighed in at under 157 & above 149, it's safe to say that 133 is likely to be a bridge too far for him this season.

Anybody care to speculate on the winner of a Davis - Nagao battle for PSU's 141lb 2026 Tourney rep?
 

GregPickel

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With LP's Trackwrestling Weight Cert post out there, in which Nagao weighed in at under 157 & above 149, it's safe to say that 133 is likely to be a bridge too far for him this season.

Anybody care to speculate on the winner of a Davis - Nagao battle for PSU's 141lb 2026 Tourney rep?
Should be pretty fascinating, assuming they wrestle off for '41. Think you probably have to lean Davis considering his edge in recent mat time during actual competition. But Nagao still has All-American pedigree if he's healthy enough finally to reach back to it.
 

nerfstate

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Braeden has been a pretty consistent, but one trick pony on bottom—to me that position is key to the matchup. Nagao’s challenges in finishing shots against good scramblers notwithstanding, he also can be stung by kids not afraid to go after him in neutral. Davis doesn’t have as clean an attack as Shawver, for example, but he is never afraid to let it rip.
 
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El_Jefe

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Should be pretty fascinating, assuming they wrestle off for '41. Think you probably have to lean Davis considering his edge in recent mat time during actual competition. But Nagao still has All-American pedigree if he's healthy enough finally to reach back to it.
We might have another Rasheed/Cassar situation where bonus becomes a factor in the decision.
 

PSUbluTX

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+1 There are actually a lot of reasons for college athletes to want to redshirt in today NCAA environment (NIL, especially when they play a sport where outside financial opportunities are limited). I can see some of these super alphas like Duke or Blaze not being okay with redshirting, knowing they could compete for an individual title right now, but unless you personally know them or the coaching staff, you don't know what's going to happen. I'll refrain from even guessing, although I think it would be best for Kasak to RS this year and let Duke go, then have Duke RS '26 and see where his weight goes. Whatever the lineup, this team is likely battling history (total points record) and not the rest of the field come next March.

This got me wondering if a true freshman were to win an NCAA title would their interest/willingness to red shirt thereafter evaporate?

Then I wondered if there have been any NCAA champs who actually redshirted the next year.

Naturally, I went to the source of all truth to find out — ChatGPT. It didn’t identify any wrestlers fitting that precise scenario but did say the following D1 wrestlers took an Olympic shirt following an NCAA title year: Yianni D., Andrew Alirez, Steve Mocco, and Andrew Howe.

What say you, fact checkers?
 

El_Jefe

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This got me wondering if a true freshman were to win an NCAA title would their interest/willingness to red shirt thereafter evaporate?

Then I wondered if there have been any NCAA champs who actually redshirted the next year.

Naturally, I went to the source of all truth to find out — ChatGPT. It didn’t identify any wrestlers fitting that precise scenario but did say the following D1 wrestlers took an Olympic shirt following an NCAA title year: Yianni D., Andrew Alirez, Steve Mocco, and Andrew Howe.

What say you, fact checkers?
Ferrari, if he gets a medical shirt for the car wreck. (Which he absolutely shouldn't, but who knows with NCAA.)

Mekhi Lewis took a medical shirt the year after winning his title. He had shirted his true FR year.
 

GregPickel

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That's what I thought but I was told he's still around and will be on the team this year at 285.
Not that you need me to confirm your info, obviously, but yep, heard that as well. Nice piece to have around no matter how it shakes out, without question. Always enjoyed watching him wrestle when he got to take the mat.
 

Arivacalion

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So, intermat and flo are predicting Davis at 141? I'm thinking that Nagao will be there too. Who will win the wrestle off?
 

Sammy7777!

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Does anyone know if we are still recruiting Ross for HWT ? In my opinion he’s gonna be better then Kirk in the right program. Think he’s a verbal right now to Oklahoma State but I could be mistaken.
 

pish69

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My prediction..

125..Luke
133..Blaze
141..Ono
149 SVN
157 Duke
165 Mitchell
174 Levi
184 Welch
197 Barr
285 Mirasola

Ono/Davis/Nagao wrestle off for 141 with Ono winning spot. Kasak/Duke wrestle off with Duke winning spot. Barr/Mirasola wrestle off with Barr winning spot. Mirasola/Cochran wrestle off with Mirasola winning spot.
 
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My prediction..

125..Luke
133..Blaze
141..Ono
149 SVN
157 Duke
165 Mitchell
174 Levi
184 Welch
197 Barr
285 Mirasola

Ono/Davis/Nagao wrestle off for 141 with Ono winning spot. Kasak/Duke wrestle off with Duke winning spot. Barr/Mirasola wrestle off with Barr winning spot. Mirasola/Cochran wrestle off with Mirasola winning spot.
I’d pay to watch Kasak vs Duke. 👍
 

McScoreley

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Ono certifying 141 was interesting to me. A lot of people thought he was a big 133 (61 for international) and it would be hard to make that for a season (especially when learning folkstyle for the first time) Obviously Ono previously posted his body measurements and he was 5% bodyfat basically weighing 142 so like some mentioned, it could mean nothing.

Here's the situation, Nagao is the only one without a redshirt among the group, however Ono and Davis cannot do the 5 free dates thing (only for true freshman) I believe and Black Knight usually only allows attached wrestlers.

I wouldn't be shocked if they are sent to Clarion instead for a wrestleoff for 141.

The PSU wrestling account has done an interesting amount of hyping up for Nagao again.
 

GregPickel

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Ono certifying 141 was interesting to me. A lot of people thought he was a big 133 (61 for international) and it would be hard to make that for a season (especially when learning folkstyle for the first time) Obviously Ono previously posted his body measurements and he was 5% bodyfat basically weighing 142 so like some mentioned, it could mean nothing.

Here's the situation, Nagao is the only one without a redshirt among the group, however Ono and Davis cannot do the 5 free dates thing (only for true freshman) I believe and Black Knight usually only allows attached wrestlers.

I wouldn't be shocked if they are sent to Clarion instead for a wrestleoff for 141.

The PSU wrestling account has done an interesting amount of hyping up for Nagao again.
I never miss a chance to complain about that rule only applying to freshmen. It’s silly and should change, in my opinion.
 

Psalm 1 guy

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Pat Smith redshirted after winning a couple titles I think. I just went and looked it up. He won in 1990, 1991, 1992, and 1994
I just did some research on this. Pat was intent on competing the year he ended up taking his redshirt. He was motivated to finish his college career and get on to international wrestling. Unfortunately for him, the Oklahoma State wrestling program was sanctioned by the NCAA for some violations. The biggest sanction was that they were not allowed to compete at the NCAA tournament that year. This was ultimately why Pat took his redshirt that year.
https://pistolsfiringblog.com/how-osu-wrestling-rebounded-from-its-own-postseason-ban/
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/new...0v113636b0041xxd004165&gca-ft=90&gca-ds=sophi
 

PSU Mike

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Ono certifying 141 was interesting to me. A lot of people thought he was a big 133 (61 for international) and it would be hard to make that for a season (especially when learning folkstyle for the first time) Obviously Ono previously posted his body measurements and he was 5% bodyfat basically weighing 142 so like some mentioned, it could mean nothing.

Here's the situation, Nagao is the only one without a redshirt among the group, however Ono and Davis cannot do the 5 free dates thing (only for true freshman) I believe and Black Knight usually only allows attached wrestlers.

I wouldn't be shocked if they are sent to Clarion instead for a wrestleoff for 141.

The PSU wrestling account has done an interesting amount of hyping up for Nagao again.
If he was close to 142/5% he’d have trouble being allowed to wrestle 133 - would have needed to cut significant muscle before cert.
 

Psu-cpa

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If he was close to 142/5% he’d have trouble being allowed to wrestle 133 - would have needed to cut significant muscle before cert.
I saw Ono this past weekend. I am surprised if he weighs 100 pounds. He has a great smile and said he wants to live the rest of his life in State College!

Also saw Blaze, who looks about 12 years old, and Messenbrink who is so well spoken and humble.
 
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JA1339

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I just did some research on this. Pat was intent on competing the year he ended up taking his redshirt. He was motivated to finish his college career and get on to international wrestling. Unfortunately for him, the Oklahoma State wrestling program was sanctioned by the NCAA for some violations. The biggest sanction was that they were not allowed to compete at the NCAA tournament that year. This was ultimately why Pat took his redshirt that year.
https://pistolsfiringblog.com/how-osu-wrestling-rebounded-from-its-own-postseason-ban/
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/new...0v113636b0041xxd004165&gca-ft=90&gca-ds=sophi
Rumor has it that a young Vodka called the NCAA sanctions folks directly to report the OSU violations.
That was years before he turned his venom towards Cael and PSU and started his crazy rants about calling the NCAA on PSU for a bunch of phantom violations.