Denied ? You mean like Biden did by denying over 90% of the country the "opportunity to even be considered" because they weren't a certain race and gender ?
270-268 scenario
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I wouldn't keep saying it if people didn't continue to post that same weak and easily refuted talking point.
No, I don't mean that. I mean denied as in literally not having a chance to be considered because the House Leader said he would not allow it and cited a made up reason as justification.
...but you know this and chose to try and play gotcha instead.
We’ve seen this movie before. We’ll go to bed with Trump having a comfortable lead. There’ll be missing reports from some big cities up north and Atlanta, but modeling will show that Trump will carry those states. However, when you wake up, it’ll be a heavier turn out than expected for Kamala
Every time I visit this thread, I am glad I won't see any of these types of threads after today. As serious a subject for every man as this is, it doesn't belong on a sports message board.
No they wouldn't. They would campaign in NY and LA area. All they need is 51% of the vote which would be captured easily. It would be the end of Republican presidents.
It matters even more if the state is large then. That's simple math. California has roughly 12% of the US population. It has roughly 10% of the electoral votes.
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So there would be no more Republican presidents because not enough people would support the party's agenda or candidate?
...well then run better candidates.
You are insufferably dumb. Yes if we let urban areas dictate our leaders they will come decidedly from one party. Thank you for making the case for the EV.
Disagree a bit as it's been pretty interesting and relatively civil with a nice range of opinions.
Urban areas dictate who wins most states though. This election comes down to whether Kamala got good enough turnout in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc.
I get the hypothetical fear.
But again- votes would count for the Republican candidate that are effectively worthless right now.
Having votes count more or less than other votes is a form of voter surpression. It just is. It discourages people from voting because they know their vote doesn't count.
I am not OK with that.
I am OK with the popular vote deciding who should be president as a result.
Also- urban areas largely decide results right now, so it's not like there would be some big fundamental change.
In 2020, Trump won more electoral votes in Texas (40) than in any other state. He garnered 5.8 million votes in Texas, again more than in other state that he won.
Where did he get even more votes than he got in Texas? That’s right….California. 6.1 million turned out to vote for Trump in a race where there was an absolute 0% chance of their vote counting at all. Imagine how much bigger that number would have been for Trump if a popular vote decided the presidential race.
Folks that think these urban areas are just 100% Democrats really don’t get out that much. There are huge numbers of Republicans that live in urban areas, too.
I’m voting for the 5th grader with a computer in his pocket containing all the recorded facts of human history and real time updates on every global current event within milliseconds….over a bunch of dudes who hadn’t yet even invented indoor plumbing and still were owning slaves and what not.
Mad props to them though….for doing the best they could with the info they had available at the time….250 years ago. Certainly not judging any of them for not being able to perfectly analyze what things were going to look like in the distant future. They were smart though…and left an out for that, too, which is one of the things we’re talking about here.
New York Times has pretty much already called it for Trump. Doesn’t seem like its gonna be particularly close.
No, there a site called polymarket on twitter than has been spot on every state, it’s over. Musk has called it as well.
I can hardly watch these fakers on cable news, trying to pretend it’s still too close to call, lol. legacy media is so bad.
I look forward to a growing economy with low taxes, low inflation, no issues from deporting millions of working people, national debt being eliminated, war ending before inauguration in Ukraine and Gaza, and my wife and daughters finally being protected.
That's just 2% of what he has promised, but I don't want to expect too much, so I will be content with that small list of promises being accomplished.
NYT is saying the same thing as polymarket. The writing is on the wall.
The cable news is like the emergency local weather guy when there’s a tornado warning. They just have to keep talking without really saying anything new or compelling.
Gotta keep people watching. Media on both sides is unwatchable. Literally impossible to know the truth on anything by watching major networks and that’s sad. It’s literally like Genespage and The Spirit on a hotly contested recruiting battle within the state.
Georgia and NC are going to be tight. The metro areas are slow coming in. It’s not a shoe in yet.
All voter fraud on both sides should be uncovered, reported on, rectified and prosecuted. Clearly there are problems with how we run elections here in the U.S..
Harris is winning by larger margins than Biden in 20 in metro Atlanta. Unless the turnout is lower it’s going to be tight.
NC just went to Trump. Even if Harris somehow takes GA, she’ll also need PA and at least one of MI and WI, and she’s trailing in all 3. Also getting smoked in the nationwide popular vote.
Well yeah election fraud should be uncovered and prosecuted. I don't think anyone wants it to be different.
But is it clear that there are election problems which result in fraud?
2020 election results have been reviewed countless times and nothing substantive was found. It's been called, by countless Republican election leaders, the most secure election in history.
There is no reason that every state in America shouldn’t have election results immediately in 2024. It’s insane that we take a week to count votes. I don’t know if there is election fraud or not, but the way we do it is stone age
So since Trump has already claimed there is extensive fraud, if he wins, will that fraud just...not be discussed? Will the narrative be that he overcame the fraud? Will he prosecute the fraud he already knows about?
Oh the possibilities...
Oh the possibilities...
Yeah, I think its just the price you pay when you get such a late start on a campaign. Neither candidate really shot themselves in the foot too badly over the past 3-4 months….Trump just had the brand and recognition. Just another swing of the old pendulum…
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