We would NOT be Southern Miss or UAB. Our conference schools would be something like this:
Undoubtedly the same feeling many others have. Or more specifically, the “3 years till “We are screwed and somebody should have done something” club.
I think that may just be an excuse. Kiffin came along at the same time Leach did, and again, after a down period with Matt Luke (and we had just come off the demoralizing error of Moorhead). Not to mention we had just won a national title about the same time NIL hit. Leach actually took full advantage of the portal.
I don't think that is unpopular at all. I think most every sane person hopes that happens. But in the meantime, we need to get up to speed and do what the other big dawgs (no pun intended) are doing. Prepare for the worse, hope for the best type thing.
I know absolutely NOTHING about our NIL and how it is run, how rich it is, etc. Is it because I don't give that I don't have the, seemingly, insider insight that these other posters have about how poorly it is being run? Are they all just full of it because they are sad that Ole Miss' program is currently on sounder footing? I would argue that coaching deaths, bad decisions, and changes in general are to blame for the current disparity in the programs (both real and imagined) to a much greater extent than NIL.
If our athletic program doesn't at a minimum have someone regularly checking fan's pulses on our premier message boards, I'd be surprised.
I'm old. We've been "surpassed" so many times by Ole Miss in my lifetime that I can't count them. Yet over that same lifetime, we've been arguably better and demonstrably no worse than equal to them.
Nah, not in football. You have small schools trying to come from FCS to G5 every year. I bet hardly any of those schools are paying much NIL, and they don't care. They just want some TV money. And now that the playoff gives them a shot, they don't care at all.....at least they have a shot.
Kiffin was running circles around leach and would have continued to both on the field and the recrutiting trail. I know your a leach homer, but there is no way we were catching Ole Miss. Ole Miss made the hire we should have made and we've been slipping ever since
You know the answer to this? Seriously? The NIL needs to show people the funds are being used to help all of us enjoy success on the field and off the field. Right now, many of us are sort of clueless how the money is used. As I said, I've been giving for a while and I have no idea what's going on. It's crazy that I know more about what Ole Miss does than I do about State. But if you give to St. Jude you want to see how that money is helping AND how even more money would REALLY help.
this is true. Everyone wants in, not out... because of football and money.
No, our conference schools would be USM, Troy, and Arkansas State. We hit the lottery being a charter member of the SEC. We bring zero value to anyone as far as tv revenue or anything else goes.
You're burying your head in the sand. I've been around a while too, and I've seen all the times they've "passed us by" in the past. But I can also see that this time is different. Completely different. But 17 them. I really don't care all that much. What concerns me is how far we're falling and how quickly. And how nothing is being done about it. We're in a once in a lifetime complete paradigm change for college sports and are doing next to nothing about it.I'm old. We've been "surpassed" so many times by Ole Miss in my lifetime that I can't count them. Yet over that same lifetime, we've been arguably better and demonstrably no worse than equal to them.
ETA:
I don't think we would be competitive after the first few years. We may have some success early on because of some legacy branding and talent that didn't transfer. The problem is that we're still in Mississippi and without the SEC revenue sharing, our prospective talent pool would will be at the bottom half of the G5 within a decade.
Lost 31-24 in Oxford;
You could be right. Past results in no indicator of future performance. I will be Missouri on this one. It'll be a few years before anybody really knows, but I may be the dubmass and this could be the death nail.
You don’t think donations would be pouring in coming off 2014 season compared to now? Fan support and enthusiasm was at an all time high. Since the disappointing 2018 season and then the coach and face of the program dying suddenly culminating in what we saw last year. The energy of the program drained.
In this case, I fear that transparency might make it even worse. Imagine knowing that your money when to Recruit A who took it, took a year of on the field training, and took off to another SEC school. At least without transparency, I could pretend my money stayed with the people who had a positive impact on my football team. Being semi-facetious...
Dude. Its a rivalry game. Auburn plays Alabama close every year, but are the programs really that close?
What is this list? This is a pipe dream. Mizzou & OM are currently projected to make the playoff, if that happens it’s tough to think SEC schools committed to football and recent success would be relegated. Same with a school like Kentucky who has a ton of money. That would leave us playing schools like UCF, Wake Forest, and Duke. I couldn’t be more bored and apathetic.
Don't fall for those click bait articles, there are easy to write "low hanging fruit."
So far, my lack of panic over them surpassing us is undefeated. I'll take the "L" if this really is the time.
What??? They were 4-5 and we were 3-7 in 2020. Only difference was they beat us at home. They'd have been 4-6 had they played aTm. They also lost to the LSU team we beat. In 2021 and 2022, it is WELL known that they played a much easier schedule than us. In 2021 we beat an Auburn team that beat them, and they barely beat Arkansas who barely beat us. 2022, get real.
Well you can make that assumption, but I wouldn’t. The fact that we aren’t doing hack actually suggests that he/they very well may not be aware what others are doing, and thus is why they need to be informed.
I think what we'll eventually wind up with is an uneasy, loose "alliance" between the SEC and Big 10. This has already started with the Joint Advisory Committee announced earlier this year. But it won't be anything remotely like a merger between the two.
The Kiffin low water mark for a 12 game regular season (8-4 in 2022) is our high water mark in the last decade.
I would have valued a win over Ole Miss more, though*********
The lack of communication and any semblance of marketing or fundraising is pretty amazing. We really are not even trying.
of course, they are already in an alliance. All the current Big 10/SEC teams are staying and they may add a few more. For the SEC, UNC would be the ultimate prize, I don't know if Clemson brings any thing to the table, FSU possibility just based on FL's population.
Again a leach homer. You’re making zero sense. Their program under kiffin was ahead and expanding its lead. Again they went to a ny6 bowl, ranked in top 10. I could care less who beat this team that beat that team that lost to this other team… those arguments make zero sense.
...and not a dime of the $100 mil for athletics. That's one big difference between State and OM donors.
Is it a difference though? It's not like they don't get academic dollars as well. And their endowment is more than $100m more than ours.
