Better Call Saul: Season 6 Discussion Thread

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It is crazy to me that viewership has steadily decreased season over season despite the wide availability of AMC... this show will eventually be held up as one of the 5 greatest dramas of all time, up there with BB, The Wire and The Sopranos.

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Better Call Saul is one of my favorite shows ever. That being said I think many people don't want to work that hard to follow a show. Saul takes a lot of memory and background to follow along with the show and get it. In that regard, it reminds me of the show Lost.

LionJim references the Wire. A friend of mine loves the Wire and thought it was ground breaking TV. I watched the entire series and found it very repetitive, slow and shallow. Seemed like a show that could have been condensed in to two seasons. I guess maybe because I did not grow up in the ghetto or corrupt Baltimore the show does not cover ground that is of interest.
 

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Better Call Saul is one of my favorite shows ever. That being said I think many people don't want to work that hard to follow a show. Saul takes a lot of memory and background to follow along with the show and get it. In that regard, it reminds me of the show Lost.

LionJim references the Wire. A friend of mine loves the Wire and thought it was ground breaking TV. I watched the entire series and found it very repetitive, slow and shallow. Seemed like a show that could have been condensed in to two seasons. I guess maybe because I did not grow up in the ghetto or corrupt Baltimore the show does not cover ground that is of interest.
JMO but I think one of the cool things about Better Call Saul is you can either watch it at the surface level and enjoy it or you can get into the weeds of easter eggs or in my case the Cinematography.

And I have to agree with your friend and @LionJim that The Wire was ground breaking TV. And you didn't have to live in the ghetto to get it. They dealt with the Docks, The School System, The rise of a Mayor and Homelessness exactly as it was happening.
And the follow up about the Gun Task Force thats now streaming is pretty much a slice of real life.
 

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BCS has some of the best acting/casts and memorable characters ever on a TV series. Jimmy/Saul/Gene, Chuck, Howard, Kim, Gus, Lalo, Tuco, Hector, Nacho, the Twins, Huell, plus all the minor characters that really flavor the series. Just brilliant television, IMO.
 

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BCS has some of the best acting/casts and memorable characters ever on a TV series. Jimmy/Saul/Gene, Chuck, Howard, Kim, Gus, Lalo, Tuco, Hector, Nacho, the Twins, Huell, plus all the minor characters that really flavor the series. Just brilliant television, IMO.
Absolutely. How Michael McKean didn't win an Emmy for his final season is a travesty, That courtroom episode alone should have sealed it.
 
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Six episodes left, with a lot of ground to cover. Every episode will count. Four episodes in, latest, either Lalo is dead or Kim has moved on somehow.
 
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Six episodes left, with a lot of ground to cover. Every episode will count. Four episodes in, latest, either Lalo is dead or Kim has moved on somehow.
Lalo will at least guess that Jimmy (I can’t call him Saul, at least not yet) and Kim will have to contact Mike for help cleaning the apartment.
 
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what is the significance of calling in mike to do the cleaning
They have a dead body in their apartment and I can’t see them calling the cops. My guess now is that they’ll set a frame in which Howard seems to have been killed in a drug deal gone bad. This belief is based on the fact that Saul has a thriving business going forward, which wouldn’t be the case if it anyone believed that he had a hand in Howard’s death. If one person believes it, then this belief will trickle down to the cops and it’s game over. There are too many loose ends, like the film crew and Francesca, for this to happen. Lalo knows that Gus knows he’s alive, but the cops still believe he’s dead, and Lalo wants to keep it that way. If the cops start snooping around they’ll start thinking that maybe Lalo isn’t dead.

Lalo, since he’s pretending to be dead, is in no position to help Jimmy and Kim clean the apartment, so my guess is that they bring in Mike. I have always believed that Lalo’s remains are (were) in the laundry concrete in Breaking Bad. I thought for a moment that maybe Howard’s remains are as well but discarded that idea because if Howard’s body isn’t found then the cops will start snooping around. Yeah, I’ll take “Drug Deal Gone Bad” for $1000, please, Alex.

The more I go into this, the less sense I seem to be making to myself so I’ll just quit here and acknowledge that I wasn’t able to answer your question.
 
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They have a dead body in their apartment and I can’t see them calling the cops. My guess now is that they’ll set a frame in which Howard seems to have been killed in a drug deal gone bad. This belief is based on the fact that Saul has a thriving business going forward, which wouldn’t be the case if it anyone believed that he had a hand in Howard’s death. If one person believes it, then this belief will trickle down to the cops and it’s game over. There are too many loose ends, like the film crew and Francesca, for this to happen. Lalo knows that Gus knows he’s alive, but the cops still believe he’s dead, and Lalo wants to keep it that way. If the cops start snooping around they’ll start thinking that maybe Lalo isn’t dead.

Lalo, since he’s pretending to be dead, is in no position to help Jimmy and Kim clean the apartment, so my guess is that they bring in Mike. I have always believed that Lalo’s remains are (were) in the laundry concrete in Breaking Bad. I thought for a moment that maybe Howard’s remains are as well but discarded that idea because if Howard’s body isn’t found then the cops will start snooping around. Yeah, I’ll take “Drug Deal Gone Bad” for $1000, please, Alex.

The more I go into this, the less sense I seem to be making to myself so I’ll just quit here and acknowledge that I wasn’t able to answer your question.

If Jimmy and Kim went the legitimate route, if you're the cops, it would be easy to conclude:

1. Howard's associates thinks he may be on drugs.

2. The apartment, up until the killing, looks like a legitimate celebration between friends. All it takes is a little lying by Jimmy and Kim.

3. Saul has a legitimate business that has questionable characters, any one of which could be crazy/disgruntled, and something could have happened. There's the question of why Jimmy and Kim survived, but that scene is still playing out.
 

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If Jimmy and Kim went the legitimate route, if you're the cops, it would be easy to conclude:

1. Howard's associates thinks he may be on drugs.

2. The apartment, up until the killing, looks like a legitimate celebration between friends. All it takes is a little lying by Jimmy and Kim.

3. Saul has a legitimate business that has questionable characters, any one of which could be crazy/disgruntled, and something could have happened. There's the question of why Jimmy and Kim survived, but that scene is still playing out.
Or suicide, but Lalo would have to be willing to leave the gun.
 

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They have a dead body in their apartment and I can’t see them calling the cops. My guess now is that they’ll set a frame in which Howard seems to have been killed in a drug deal gone bad. This belief is based on the fact that Saul has a thriving business going forward, which wouldn’t be the case if it anyone believed that he had a hand in Howard’s death. If one person believes it, then this belief will trickle down to the cops and it’s game over. There are too many loose ends, like the film crew and Francesca, for this to happen. Lalo knows that Gus knows he’s alive, but the cops still believe he’s dead, and Lalo wants to keep it that way. If the cops start snooping around they’ll start thinking that maybe Lalo isn’t dead.

Lalo, since he’s pretending to be dead, is in no position to help Jimmy and Kim clean the apartment, so my guess is that they bring in Mike. I have always believed that Lalo’s remains are (were) in the laundry concrete in Breaking Bad. I thought for a moment that maybe Howard’s remains are as well but discarded that idea because if Howard’s body isn’t found then the cops will start snooping around. Yeah, I’ll take “Drug Deal Gone Bad” for $1000, please, Alex.

The more I go into this, the less sense I seem to be making to myself so I’ll just quit here and acknowledge that I wasn’t able to answer your question.
Or suicide, but Lalo would have to be willing to leave the gun.
Way to be decisive, Jim. The only thing anyone should take from my ramblings here is that G&G have me twisted totally into knots.

This feeling is familiar to mathematicians. In fact, while typing this I thought of my favorite professor, Mike Boyle, saying, “You’re waving your hands.”
 
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Breaking Bad marathon on AMC, in which Hank finds the RV. Saul: “Did you not plan for this contingency? The Starship Enterprise had a self-destruct button.”

Don’t worry, I got a life, I’m leaving for the gym after the dog gets back inside.
 
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Jeez, can they make Howard’s end any sadder? Namaste Jag on the beach, shoe washed up on the beach, wedding ring on top of wallet, placed in a fridge for removal, and, damn, buried with Lalo. :(
 

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Seriously, to be thrown In a ditch with your killer and no casket and your high maintenance wife, will she shed a tear?
 

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Lalo's storyline - resolved
Nacho's storyline - resolved
Hector Salamancas - resolved
Howard (and HHM) storyline - resolved
Saul's wealth/success - resolved
Methlab's backstory - resolved
Chuck storyline - resolved
Kim - come on down!
Nebraska - Kim?

What if Saul breaks up with Kim?
 

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Lalo sending Gus' guys running all over the place and being spread thin reminiscent of Walter White's bomb threats at the end of Breaking Bad to see his wife.
 
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How do they resolve the BB scene with Saul, Walt, and Jesse? From what Mike tells Jimmy, he should know Lalo isn’t coming back. Unless Jimmy is still traumatized and paranoid from the Howard incident. Jimmy does say to Lalo, as he is tying Jimmy up, that it wasn’t him, it was Ignacio, so dialogue keeps on that train.
 
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How do they resolve the BB scene with Saul, Walt, and Jesse? From what Mike tells Jimmy, he should know Lalo isn’t coming back. Unless Jimmy is still traumatized and paranoid from the Howard incident.
It still works, no contradiction. Good catch though; I’m pretty sure I said that Jimmy doesn’t know Lalo is dead.
 

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Rewatching now, the scene where Kim goes to Gus’, uses a lot of heavy, dark electronic music. I see similarities to Carpenter’s use of synthesizer music in Halloween, The Thing, etc. wonder if there is an influence?
 
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