Better Call Saul: Season 6 Discussion Thread

rudedude

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Oh yes! Kim knew Lalo was alive but never told Jimmy, this is where things turn sour for the couple.
 

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Kim and Saul get their Howard 'on drugs, ruined, committing suicide' plan, although I wonder if him committing suicide was part of the plan. Mike knew about the plan, did he surmise it from surveillance? I can't remember any time either would have mentioned it. Maybe this explains Mike's change in attitude towards Saul in Breaking Bad.
 

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I can see Kim departing soon. Didn’t tell him and it may have freaked her out. But she was ready to kill the Person at the door.
 

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I can see Kim departing soon. Didn’t tell him and it may have freaked her out. But she was ready to kill the Person at the door.
Cliff will have something to do with this. Why did Kim blow off the meeting? In what world would Cliff’s friend with the mustache take a bribe?
 

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Cliff will have something to do with this. Why did Kim blow off the meeting? In what world would Cliff’s friend with the mustache take a bribe?
He wouldn’t take a bribe that is what made Howard look like he was mad
 

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Am I the only one that was a little disappointed? That episode kind of played out just like it seemed like it would. I thought it was clear that Lalo and Gus would end up in the lab and Gus would shoot him with the gun he planted. If it was a typical episode, I would probably be fine with it, but my expectations are extremely high for the final 6.
Need to get this thing into the BB timeframe.
 

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Am I the only one that was a little disappointed? That episode kind of played out just like it seemed like it would. I thought it was clear that Lalo and Gus would end up in the lab and Gus would shoot him with the gun he planted. If it was a typical episode, I would probably be fine with it, but my expectations are extremely high for the final 6.
Need to get this thing into the BB timeframe.
The challenge always was how to get Lalo into the laundry. I didn’t see that strategy coming, hell, it took me a minute or two to figure out that the “librarian” was Gus.
 
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The challenge always was how to get Lalo into the laundry. I didn’t see that strategy coming, hell, it took me a minute or two to figure out that the “librarian” was Gus.

I did not see Jimmy and Kim being simple pawns for misdirection purposes. Even when it was going down the thought that this may be the way to get rid of Kim crossed my mind, at the very least Gus' other cleaner that Mike sent over.
 
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What it shows is the Walt was the smartest of this bunch of criminals, followed by Gus & Lalo. My son was ticked they had telegraphed the gun in the lab but I say Gus knew Lalo was searching for proof to take back to Eladio and Gus is very meticulous to the point of insanity (remember he drank the poison tequila first in order to kill all the cartel).
 

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The challenge always was how to get Lalo into the laundry. I didn’t see that strategy coming, hell, it took me a minute or two to figure out that the “librarian” was Gus.
Yes, it was good. Just not great imho.
Good prediction by you that Howard and Lalo would end up buried below the basement. I think your idea that Cliff comes back into play will also prove true. That was left unresolved and now the show is as much about what happens to Kim. Not to mention, G&G will have to show the police poking around about Howard's death and Cliff knows a lot about his final days.
I'm still holding out hope that Kim has a clandestine role during the BB period (she is made of sterner stuff). We'll see.
 

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What it shows is the Walt was the smartest of this bunch of criminals, followed by Gus & Lalo. My son was ticked they had telegraphed the gun in the lab but I say Gus knew Lalo was searching for proof to take back to Eladio and Gus is very meticulous to the point of insanity (remember he drank the poison tequila first in order to kill all the cartel).
Well, after Walt shot Mike he was all, “I just realized that I could get the names of Mike’s people from Lydia.”
 

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Am I the only one that was a little disappointed? That episode kind of played out just like it seemed like it would. I thought it was clear that Lalo and Gus would end up in the lab and Gus would shoot him with the gun he planted. If it was a typical episode, I would probably be fine with it, but my expectations are extremely high for the final 6.
Need to get this thing into the BB timeframe.
Also, after the cold open it was obvious that there was only one way it could play out. Maybe Lalo would live for another episode but basically we all knew, or should have known, that his time was up. Perhaps this played a role in how you perceived this episode.

I have to admit that I could not read this episode at all, even though, as I said, there was only one way forward. For example, I totally whiffed on Lalo using J&K to draw Mike’s people away from the laundry. Take this into consideration the next time you see me spouting off.
 
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Was Lyle the restaurant manager in BrBd? I don't think so.

I hope Lyle doesn't meet a gruesome death in the next five episodes, but it wouldn't surprise me.
 

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Was Lyle the restaurant manager in BrBd? I don't think so.

I hope Lyle doesn't meet a gruesome death in the next five episodes, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yeah, Lyle is the manager in Breaking Bad. Edit: Apparently I’m wrong here. This is like the fifth time we’ve seen Lyle.
 
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Am I the only one that was a little disappointed? That episode kind of played out just like it seemed like it would. I thought it was clear that Lalo and Gus would end up in the lab and Gus would shoot him with the gun he planted. If it was a typical episode, I would probably be fine with it, but my expectations are extremely high for the final 6.
Need to get this thing into the BB timeframe.
One thing to remember was this wasn't written as a split season. It ended up that way due to the health of Odenkirk.
 

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Yes, it was good. Just not great imho.
Good prediction by you that Howard and Lalo would end up buried below the basement. I think your idea that Cliff comes back into play will also prove true. That was left unresolved and now the show is as much about what happens to Kim. Not to mention, G&G will have to show the police poking around about Howard's death and Cliff knows a lot about his final days.
I'm still holding out hope that Kim has a clandestine role during the BB period (she is made of sterner stuff). We'll see.
I think the Sandpiper settlement closed the Cliff story. I think he is done. I don't think you will see any Howard investigation at this point either. We know from BB that none of that followed Saul.

The big one of course is Kim and what happens with Gene.
 
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Yeah, Lyle is the manager in Breaking Bad.
Wiki says that he was only in BCS https://breakingbad.fandom.com/wiki/Lyle

I think the Sandpiper settlement closed the Cliff story. I think he is done. I don't think you will see any Howard investigation at this point either. We know from BB that none of that followed Saul.

The big one of course is Kim and what happens with Gene.
I will take that bet. I don't think they can leave the Howard thing open, and if that is true, I'm confident that Cliff will return. We shall see.
 
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Am I the only one that was a little disappointed? That episode kind of played out just like it seemed like it would. I thought it was clear that Lalo and Gus would end up in the lab and Gus would shoot him with the gun he planted. If it was a typical episode, I would probably be fine with it, but my expectations are extremely high for the final 6.
Need to get this thing into the BB timeframe.
I liked it. I loved the opening sequence on the beach and pullback camera work.
I liked that they wrapped that story arc up. For the most part.
Am really interested to see where the Kim arc goes.
 

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The sharp bottle topper is still out there, although it did make the move to Saul’s new house.
 
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Cliff will ask Kim why she blew off the meeting. I have a feeling that Kim is going to be all, “You’ll never prove this and I’ll deny saying this, but we’re the reason Howard is dead.”

Since Lalo is out of the picture, I don’t think Kim dies. However, this isn’t going to be a pretty parting. She’s not going out with a whimper. So what is the bang going to be?
 
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Per IMBD, Walt and Jesse appear in episode 10. Nothing listed for Carol Burnett, however
 

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I liked it. I loved the opening sequence on the beach and pullback camera work.
I liked that they wrapped that story arc up. For the most part.
Am really interested to see where the Kim arc goes.
Apparently the beach scene was the last shot filmed before production wrapped. G&G have a tradition of shots like these; my favorite is the cold opening of the episode in which Nacho takes himself out.
 
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Apparently the beach scene was the last shot filmed before production wrapped. G&G have a tradition of shots like these; my favorite is the cold opening of the episode in which Nacho takes himself out.
I love, love, love tracking shots and this is one of the first "reverse" tracking shot I've ever seen.
You're correct they've done a lot of tracking shots. This is my favorite...
 

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How do they resolve the BB scene with Saul, Walt, and Jesse? From what Mike tells Jimmy, he should know Lalo isn’t coming back. Unless Jimmy is still traumatized and paranoid from the Howard incident. Jimmy does say to Lalo, as he is tying Jimmy up, that it wasn’t him, it was Ignacio, so dialogue keeps on that train.
I read an interview with Gordon Smith, who wrote this latest episode, in which he was asked this question. Paraphrasing: “Mike had already once told Jimmy that Lalo would no longer be a problem so why should Jimmy believe Mike now?” Great take!
 
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I read an interview with Gordon Smith, who wrote this latest episode, in which he was asked this question. Paraphrasing: “Mike had already once told Jimmy that Lalo would no longer be a problem so why should Jimmy believe Mike now?” Great take!

“Gus learned from Nacho.”
 
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Odenkirk had his heart attack in the post Howard shooting couch sit with Lalo and Kim. Tony Dalton rehearsed his lines for two months until Odenkirk was cleared to come back and resume the scene. And just imagine if Odenkirk had passed!! What would they have done??
 

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Odenkirk had his heart attack in the post Howard shooting couch sit with Lalo and Kim. Tony Dalton rehearsed his lines for two months until Odenkirk was cleared to come back and resume the scene. And just imagine if Odenkirk had passed!! What would they have done??
G&G have said that they would have pulled the plug on the show if Odenkirk had died. (I’ll look for the reference.)
 

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I’m wondering if David Costabile (Gale Boetticher) or Raymond Cruz (Tuco) will make an appearance in the remainder of the series.
 

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My SOP is to watch each episode alone and copy to watch later with my wife, but I barely slept after last week’s episode.
 
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