Better Call Saul: Season 6 Discussion Thread

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The next clients to walk through the door will be? Hmmmmm. Cliffhanger. Segway into bb. Thought the whole lalo shooting would get to Kim. That whole wife crying was ridiculous. She was a cold bitc& to Howard.
 

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I envision “Gene” running into her in Omaha. Maybe the cabby that found Saul is a PD or a skip tracer hired by Kim.

I half expected a shot of the cabby driving around with Saul’s commercial on in the background.
 

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The next clients to walk through the door will be? Hmmmmm. Cliffhanger. Segway into bb. Thought the whole lalo shooting would get to Kim. That whole wife crying was ridiculous. She was a cold bitc& to Howard.

Oh absolutely. She seemed awfully upset after just getting everything in the divorce. What was up with her downsizing a very successful firm? She basically owns all or a significant portion of it. Seemed odd.
 

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BTW, Kim was absolutely vicious questioning how Howard’s wife couldn't see the signs. I was really hoping she was going to claim she had an affair with Howard.
 

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The next clients to walk through the door will be? Hmmmmm. Cliffhanger. Segway into bb. Thought the whole lalo shooting would get to Kim. That whole wife crying was ridiculous. She was a cold bitc& to Howard.
IMDB has Cranston and Paul as actors for the next episode. Perhaps they will be in a scene with a HS field trip as Walter had Jesse in one of his classes and it may be a little early for their cooking escapades.
 

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I don't think Don Eladio believed Gus. As long as Gus produces, and he does, then being able to point to all the "evidence" was good enough for him. I am a little surprised though that Gus' wound didn't elicit more scrutiny. Maybe he was on pain killers, but he has a wound that requires a bandage and presumably antibiotics, and it's located where he got patted down. Even several weeks after the events of last episode, I don't think he'd be close enough to fully healed.

Wine drinking - it was a little odd to see Gus act so social with the manager. Just out of character, even though he was clearly feeling completely relieved.

Mike - devasted at being called a cartel member by Nacho's dad. I'm still confused why the Salamancas never went after him, especially since they don't believe Nacho.
 

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I don't think Don Eladio believed Gus. As long as Gus produces, and he does, then being able to point to all the "evidence" was good enough for him. I am a little surprised though that Gus' wound didn't elicit more scrutiny. Maybe he was on pain killers, but he has a wound that requires a bandage and presumably antibiotics, and it's located where he got patted down. Even several weeks after the events of last episode, I don't think he'd be close enough to fully healed.

Wine drinking - it was a little odd to see Gus act so social with the manager. Just out of character, even though he was clearly feeling completely relieved.

Mike - devasted at being called a cartel member by Nacho's dad. I'm still confused why the Salamancas never went after him, especially since they don't believe Nacho.
Gus?Pain? This is the guy that drank poison tequila to bump off the entire cartel. A little gunshot wound is nothing to this psychopath. ;)
 
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IMDB has Cranston and Paul as actors for the next episode. Perhaps they will be in a scene with a HS field trip as Walter had Jesse in one of his classes and it may be a little early for their cooking escapades.
It’s going to be a re-do of Saul’s first appearance in Breaking Bad, Badger’s case. Here’s how I know: when he met Badger in the lockup, in Breaking Bad, what did Saul mistakenly think Badger was being charged with?
 
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It’s going to be a re-do of Saul’s first appearance in Breaking Bad, Badger’s case. Here’s how I know: when he met Badger in the lockup, in Breaking Bad, what did Saul mistakenly think Badger was being charged with?
Public masturbation. So how does that translate into Saul’s first appearance in BB?
 

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From a review of the episode and, man is this spot on!!

But here’s the problem: Loving Jimmy may be bad for Kim and bad for everyone around them, but loving Kim is the only thing that keeps Jimmy from becoming … Saul. Saul is Jimmy with his soul surgically removed.
 
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When Saul was getting dressed in the finale of last night’s episode, he was on the phone with Francesca: “My first case today is another public masturbator?”
Wow, the interweaving of the little details in this show is unreal. Terrific writing!
 
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The most devastating line of last night’s episode is when Jimmy is pleading with Kim and he says, I love you and Kim says back to Jimmy, I love you too, but so what. Wow
 
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Kim with Howard’s wife, she played that perfectly, knowing that Cliff would say the same thing. Cold.
 

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And that look on Francesca’s face told the entire story of Jimmy McGill and Saul Goodman. That was an iconic shot.
 

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When Saul was getting dressed in the finale of last night’s episode, he was on the phone with Francesca: “My first case today is another public masturbator?”
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this does not foreshadow the entrance of Walt, Jesse, & Badger. The inspection sticker on Saul’s car when he pulls into the handicap space is 2005. BB timeline doesn’t begin until 2008. Jesse has graduated. Just a co-incidence that there is another public masturbator. So, Kim leaves Jimmy in 2004 and the “time jump” to full Saul is approximately one year. He is also taking Xanax for anxiety from his call with Francesca while showering. There is the bus crash, however, and Saul is angling for a class action lawsuit and wants the camerA guy there to film a possible new ad.
Perhaps Jesse was on the bus? Was it a school bus? Walt had Jesse in class, was it a field trip? We shall see
 
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Mike - devasted at being called a cartel member by Nacho's dad. I'm still confused why the Salamancas never went after him, especially since they don't believe Nacho.
He isn't in the game for one and two you can hit him but it doesn't help you any because Nacho is dead.. It would be a Salamanca thing to do but there is nothing to be gained and they are focused on Fring.
 
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this does not foreshadow the entrance of Walt, Jesse, & Badger. The inspection sticker on Saul’s car when he pulls into the handicap space is 2005. BB timeline doesn’t begin until 2008. Jesse has graduated. Just a co-incidence that there is another public masturbator. So, Kim leaves Jimmy in 2004 and the “time jump” to full Saul is approximately one year. He is also taking Xanax for anxiety from his call with Francesca while showering. There is the bus crash, however, and Saul is angling for a class action lawsuit and wants the camerA guy there to film a possible new ad.
Perhaps Jesse was on the bus? Was it a school bus? Walt had Jesse in class, was it a field trip? We shall see
I've seen a picture of Saul, Mike, Walt, and Jesse together in Saul's car.
 

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I don’t believe that is from the next episode. I’m sticking with my bus crash theory.
By the lack of aging in their faces, it would seem that this is a shot from Breaking Bad. But when were the four of them ever together in Breaking Bad?

Edit: The photo credit says it’s from Breaking Bad.
 
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Just caught the last two episodes last night. One very little throwaway thing stuck out to me: Mike removes Howard’s shoes, wallet, ring, and then directs the guys to toss his body into the hole with Lalo, to be immediately covered in dirt, but he says “easy” in a scolding way when they go to pick him up. Kind of summed up the whole dichotomy of the characters in the show who try to pretend they’re principled and decent while doing horrendous things.
 

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By the lack of aging in their faces, it would seem that this is a shot from Breaking Bad. But when were the four of them ever together in Breaking Bad?

Edit: The photo credit says it’s from Breaking Bad.
And before you see it, Gould wants you to keep in mind that it was designed to fit the saga of Better Call Saul — not Breaking Bad. "It's very much about the story that we've got and it's very much in keeping with the style of this particular show and the way we present things," says Gould, who created Saul with Breaking Bad overlord Vince Gilligan. "I'm very excited and they, of course, are fantastic."
 
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Just caught the last two episodes last night. One very little throwaway thing stuck out to me: Mike removes Howard’s shoes, wallet, ring, and then directs the guys to toss his body into the hole with Lalo, to be immediately covered in dirt, but he says “easy” in a scolding way when they go to pick him up. Kind of summed up the whole dichotomy of the characters in the show who try to pretend they’re principled and decent while doing horrendous things.
“Pretend” is the operative word. Good that you brought up the “go easy,” which takes on a heightened melancholy meaning after Nacho’s father tells off Mike. How many truly noble characters are there in the BB-BCS canon? Shout out to Juan Carlos Cantù, who portrayed Mr. Vargas.

Also to Reed Diamond, who played David the wine bar waiter. Perfectly played.
 
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He isn't in the game for one and two you can hit him but it doesn't help you any because Nacho is dead.. It would be a Salamanca thing to do but there is nothing to be gained and they are focused on Fring.

I'm still wondering why the Salamancas didn't pick up Nacho's dad when they were first looking for Nacho - use him as a hostage, see what he knows, etc. Even know, he may know something, even in an offhand kind of way.

Back to Don Eladio "believing" Gus over Hector, the more I think about it, the more I think the assassination went down with Don's approval. Hector was an original cartel member, but he's just about out of the game, but maybe Lalo was a little too unpredictable for Don's tastes.

Hector - why is he in a no security long term care facility? He can clearly function just fine outside of it, and hiring good home care isn't a problem for them. I find that odd.
 
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this does not foreshadow the entrance of Walt, Jesse, & Badger. The inspection sticker on Saul’s car when he pulls into the handicap space is 2005. BB timeline doesn’t begin until 2008. Jesse has graduated. Just a co-incidence that there is another public masturbator. So, Kim leaves Jimmy in 2004 and the “time jump” to full Saul is approximately one year. He is also taking Xanax for anxiety from his call with Francesca while showering. There is the bus crash, however, and Saul is angling for a class action lawsuit and wants the camerA guy there to film a possible new ad.
Perhaps Jesse was on the bus? Was it a school bus? Walt had Jesse in class, was it a field trip? We shall see

Nice catch on the inspection sticker. I was wondering about that time jump because Saul had a really big comb over going on, and losing that much hair usually requires a fair amount of time. Has he been wearing a toupee the whole time? No way that comb over covers that much.
 

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Nice catch on the inspection sticker. I was wondering about that time jump because Saul had a really big comb over going on, and losing that much hair usually requires a fair amount of time. Has he been wearing a toupee the whole time? No way that comb over covers that much.
You can’t walk back the 2005 inspection sticker; there is zero chance this was a mistake. We’ll see how it plays out.
 
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Well, guess I was wrong re Kim.
Too bad because that's now two classic characters in a row with disappointing exits. Sorry, but I thought that was another strike out. They set us up in past seasons thinking kim was going to leave Jimmy only to shock us (i.e. "let's get married"). My expectations were way higher for her send off. And the episode was half over before anything interesting happened. I hope the last four episodes pick up.
But yes, I agree that Kim meets the Omaha timberline in the end.
 
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Well, guess I was wrong re Kim.
Too bad because that's now two classic characters in a row with disappointing exits. Sorry, but I thought that was another strike out. They set us up in past seasons thinking kim was going to leave Jimmy only to shock us (i.e. "let's get married"). My expectations were way higher for her send off. And the episode was half over before anything interesting happened. I hope the last four episodes pick up.
But yes, I agree that Kim meets the Omaha timberline in the end.
+1. I wasnt as impressed with this last episode as others seem to be. 🤷‍♂️
Was this also the episode they were filming when BoB O. Had his heart attack?
 

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Gus?Pain? This is the guy that drank poison tequila to bump off the entire cartel. A little gunshot wound is nothing to this psychopath. ;)

I was actually thinking a little bit more that the bandage would be noticed. He did see a doctor so maybe his repairs were far enough along that he no longer required a bandage. I'm really curious if those pills were antibiotics vs pain killers. Given the proactive nature of the doc I would lean to it being a little more serious and be antibiotics, but it doesn't have to be.
 

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Her quitting the Bar aside, I think that this was the only way for Kim to move forward. Howard is dead because of her, remember that she had the perfect opportunity to pull the plug on Operation Howard when it was discovered that the meditator had broken his arm. She spoke the truth: she didn’t tell Jimmy about Lalo being alive because she was afraid that Jimmy would insist on calling off the scam. And then she tells that lie to Howard’s wife, knowing full well that Cliff would back her up. Knowing of Howard’s martial difficulties, “Maybe I was wrong, you knew him better than anyone.” That’s cold.
 

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“Pretend” is the operative word. Good that you brought up the “go easy,” which takes on a heightened melancholy meaning after Nacho’s father tells off Mike. How many truly noble characters are there in the BB-BCS canon? Shout out to Juan Carlos Cantù, who portrayed Mr. Vargas.

Also to Reed Diamond, who played David the wine bar waiter. Perfectly played.

I didn't get the need for the wine, Gus opening the windows and staying in his home already conveyed to me he was in the clear. Just seemed a redundant, unless there is some meaning that I missed. The exposition in the storytelling from David seemed out of place given how tight dialogue is - it reminded me of the kind of stuff from a Kevin Smith movie.
 

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I didn't get the need for the wine, Gus opening the windows and staying in his home already conveyed to me he was in the clear. Just seemed a redundant, unless there is some meaning that I missed. The exposition in the storytelling from David seemed out of place given how tight dialogue is - it reminded me of the kind of stuff from a Kevin Smith movie.
I liked the scene because we saw Gus unwind for five minutes and then go back to being Gus Fring, Drug Lord. David the sommelier is taking about how difficult it is to make that particular wine, how much trouble it is, but they do the work because they insist on excellence. After that conversation, Gus can’t stay because he’s obsessed with his unfinished meth lab. I just happened to recently rewatch the episode of BB where Walt first steps into the lab and it’s as if Dorothy Gale had first arrived in Oz. Lalo’s gone (hence the opened curtains and the excursion to the wine bar), but work remains to be done.
 

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I'm still wondering why the Salamancas didn't pick up Nacho's dad when they were first looking for Nacho - use him as a hostage, see what he knows, etc. Even know, he may know something, even in an offhand kind of way.

Back to Don Eladio "believing" Gus over Hector, the more I think about it, the more I think the assassination went down with Don's approval. Hector was an original cartel member, but he's just about out of the game, but maybe Lalo was a little too unpredictable for Don's tastes.

Hector - why is he in a no security long term care facility? He can clearly function just fine outside of it, and hiring good home care isn't a problem for them. I find that odd.

And why wouldn't Don Eladio believe Hector? Hector is an original, he literally came with no evidence and said the accusations knowing full well he couldn't back any of it up, and still did so anyways.
 

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+1. I wasnt as impressed with this last episode as others seem to be. 🤷‍♂️
Was this also the episode they were filming when BoB O. Had his heart attack?

I found it very anticlimactic, and just seemed a little too matter of fact to wrap up storylines. That scene in the mall - was that a preview or just a commercial? Four episodes left, Kim is now out, Jimmy is full Saul, Gus is ready for Breaking Bad. Everything is pretty much ready for Breaking Bad. Is anything really left there? That leaves post BB and Gene.
 

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Her quitting the Bar aside, I think that this was the only way for Kim to move forward.
And hence my disappointment. Part of what makes the writing great is they take you places you didn't expect. It was the obvious plot move and that was not what I wanted for arguably the most enigmatic character in the show.
 
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