Are we to suppose that CJF and staff didn't offer plenty of other qualified QB's who chose to go elsewhere, thus leaving us with those who chose us? To me that's exactly what most-probably happened. Ya can't get 'em all and sometimes ya get none.
Clifford was supposed to participate in the Hula Bowl yesterday.
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Did not UConn play in some bowl game this year?Winning the starting power forward spot at UConn is pretty darn good. The QB spot? It's like being the tallest building in New Hampshire. Nice, but not noteworthy.
Having said that I've heard he's a great kid, and UConn is a great school that will prepare him well for life after football.
actually, wasn't this thread about Sean and his potential opportunities? I think we all think it will be interesting to see if/where he may fit at the next level no matter what the league. He certainly has a lot of skill pre-snap, and may also wind up in coaching at some point. One thing I believe, he will be a success in life no matter where he goes.
it is pretty easy to second guess the Iowa game decision. no doubt Sean not being 100% for the rest of the season impacted the team results. injuries and opt outs essentially impacted the 2020 and 2021 seasons, and many commentators are now commenting that these were PSU anomalies and the 10/11 win seasons is who we are. that is good for us as we wipe the memory of those two seasons. BTW - when we lost the game at Iowa, I think we were ranked #4 or #5, so the world knew who we were. we also lost PJ in that game. without the injuries and opt outs for those two years, we win 20 games at least and none of this is being discussed.
Absolutely! Had Sean and PJ not gone down we would have beaten IA by at least 20 points and won a bunch more games as well.
Apparently you're only allowed to do that if you once coached HS football.
But just wondering what the statute of limitation for sports criticism is?
BWICAC Bible: 1. Blame coaching 2. Blame officiating 3. Blame the Quarterback 4. Players on the bench, or those that leave or coaches we don't have.....always.....always are better than what PSU has to offer. 5. We deserve better.
And all of this is important to you,,,,,why?
The athletes compete in a contest, they win or lose. Then it's on to the next game. You need to ask yourself what it is that has you stuck on something that occurred 16 months ago. Of what value is you criticism? What positive change will it bring?
Clifford was injured. Levis transferred and Villeux was being disciplined. Roberson was pressed into service. He chocked. Penn State lost. Trust me, in every game one team wins, the other loses. It happens all the time. Losing a football game usually isn't fatal. Do you have this issue in your daily life? If so, I hope you seek help. You don't need to be an ex player or coach to see that it isn't normal to continue to grieve about the loss of a football game.
In the competitive world of sport, winning is not guaranteed. It is widely recognized that coming back or overcoming adversity is admirable. I think Sean Clifford and this years team are to be commended for turning adversity and disappointment (2021) into a #7 finish in the nation.
Some here seem to believe that if the ball doesn't bounce your way, the important thing is to place blame.......and never move on.
Let's not bring talent into the equation. LOL
At the expense of being labeled a former high school coach
should you have mentioned that Tua and the guy he replaced are both NFL stars? WOW 247 had Tua as the #1 QB and and a 5 star. Roberson was #15 and a 3 star.
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To that end Clifford just lead a drive down the field. On first down he hit about 40 yd ball in the air pass. Got it down to the goal line but didn’t get it in on 4 th down. 2 nd qtr coming up. I think there r 3 QBs so the next 2 get the second n 3 TD qtr and whoever plays the best gets the 4 th. But that’s just a guess
Whose job is it to recruit, retain, and develop talent? The admissions office? Or does someone on the coaching staff have some responsibility there?Let's not bring talent into the equation. LOL
At the expense of being labeled a former high school coach
Well how about a reality check…we are not Bama. You seem to have all the answers, why aren’t you coaching a national championship team?
Other than the horrible pick-6 against Purdue, Cliffy had a very nice season. Pre-snap he's been great.** In the RB it seemed like he changed things up at the LOS about half the time. If the Auburn (both years), MSU, RB Cliffy is what shows at the combine, he's got a shot.
** Disclaimer: I never coached HS football so my observations and compliment are probably invalid.
The ultimate responsibility for the above is the head football coach. In fact Franklin is considered so good at these (among other) tasks that he was given a ten year 70 million dollar, fully guaranteed contract.
Of what value is your criticism?
To be fair, the example should be Hurts is injured, Tua entered the portal, Mac Jones is suspended......does Kyle Edwards lead Alabama to victory?
Sorry to hear you couldn't qualify to be a gym teacher. Just because you were the last guy picked during the flag football unit is no reason to hate coaches.
Not gonna compare resumes here but suffice it to say I am tremendously happy in my place in life and the contribution I've made to society.
Get over yourself.
Tremendously happy with yourself, yet the need to whine about a game (one that you didn't participate in) almost 16 months ago. Is finding fault with PSU coaches one of your biggest contributions to society? Or just your hobby?
Is defending coaches against people whining about a game 16 months ago more noble than being the one whining about it?
Don't know as I've never stooped to the latter. But let me ask you. What initiates the defending...if not the whining?
Truth be told, the Oct 9, 2021 game will be forever etched in my mind, but not because of what anyone thinks.
My father was ill and I was with him in Florida. We watched the game and had a beer together and were up talking about the game til around 12:30AM. He was bitching about the turn of events after Cliffy got hurt.
The next morning, dad slept in much later than was usual for him, which I wrote off as him being tired from the late night.
Eventually I checked on him and he was unresponsive. Called 911 and they were able to get him to the hospital where they got him stabilized although he was still unresponsive throughout the 10th.
I get back to the ICU first thing in the morning of the 11th and he'd rallied enough to be lucid and we were able to spend the day together chatting and saying our goodbyes. He passed that evening at 7PM.
So yes, the events of 16 mos ago are always somewhat fresh in my mind.
Or more likely Miami, Jim Kelly is hurt, they don’t want to burn Bernie’s redshirt, Mark Richt sucks so they run out a 6’4” Kyle Vanderwende v Maryland only to get beat
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Jim Kelly should've been playing LBer anyway.
I’m very sorry for your loss…tough times, but you would think that situation would help you keep the game part of it in perspective. In the big picture, it really doesn’t matter. Fun to watch, fun to cheer, but win or lose, life moves on.
I too have lost parents and my wife. I'm sorry for your loss. Admittedly, I'm not in your shoes.....but in my experience, letting go of a football game never compared to losing my wife.
I have no idea what you’re even talking about, to be honest. You spend more time in here complaining about people complaining about coaching than any other poster does just complaining about coaching.Don't know as I've never stooped to the latter. But let me ask you. What initiates the defending...if not the whining?
I did not realize Levis was even in that game. I didn't recall seeing his name in stats. I thought the off player of the game was some QB from one of the directional Carolina schools.
I love the fact that we won the Rose Bowl and was happy to be there. However in the grand scheme of things my guess is Will Levis' signing bonus will help him very quickly get over never winning a Rose Bowl.
What I don't understand is the extreme hype over him, starting with Kiper. Lots of guys are built like Josh Allen and have cannon arms. But what's he really done as a QB that's so impressive to warrant a projected #5 pick?
Well, guys like Kiper loved Ryan Leaf and weren’t impressed with Tom Brady, so there’s that.
Great example. Project QB's tend to remain project QB's more often than not.
I think in Leaf's case it was between the ears and not physical.
Between the ears is the difference maker for most NFL QB’s. A guy like Leaf had all the physical tools and failed and Brady didn’t have all the physical tools. The great ones have it between the ears.
Amazes me how people on a DISCUSSION BOARD get so hyper sensitive about DISCUSSION. Who is harmed?
If everything ever done by a coach was never to be questioned or DISCUSSED, why bother logging on at all? Or do some people just feel it is their duty to declare over again since coaches know more than the average Joe, no further discussion will be allowed?
Maybe these folks should go work for BigTech…they did a nice job of shutting down discussion about Fauci re: COVID. And boy was he proven correct vs “average Josephines and Joes.”
Or has BostonNit has put it “get over yourselves.”
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