On topic last week i checked , Cliff played the 1st quarter in the Hula Bowl, i searched what i though was pretty deep and couldn't find any individual stats for the game.
Clifford was supposed to participate in the Hula Bowl yesterday.
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The closest statistical comp. in the NCAA Power 5, to Will Levis, is Casey Thompson of Nebraska (in fact, they are nearly identical over the last 2 years).
If one wants a statistical comp. but who has similar size/build - that would be Garrett Shrader of Syracuse.
I’m all for discussion, but the chest beating and the “Franklin should be fired because he doesn’t know as much as I do” crap is ridiculous and I tend to point that out.
There could be some debate about who or whom is hyer sensitive. There is unfounded criticism and criticism that is warranted. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD....so disagreeing with Josephine is not permitted? LOL
At least 90% of the Franklin criticism is unwarranted....especially this season. Oh.....that's just my opinion.
Good for you. But often there a legitimate questions and critiques - the whole purpose of a board.
You use the term “often” a bit too liberally here. It’s often after the fact criticism, which to me, is not legitimate. It’s easy to second guess after the fact.
Such precision - 90% accuracy!There could be some debate about who or whom is hyer sensitive. There is unfounded criticism and criticism that is warranted. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD....so disagreeing with Josephine is not permitted? LOL
At least 90% of the Franklin criticism is unwarranted....especially this season. Oh.....that's just my opinion.
Since you have never questioned anything CJF has done, your credibility is in the stratosphere. If you have, please cite an example.
You come across as a bitter, condescending, old dude. But perhaps that is me.
So people are to read minds and anticipate what Franklin does? And then criticize that in advance?
Criticizing moves he makes that you disagree with and complimenting moves you do agree with are probably the path to credibility here. Being over the top on either side is foolish.Perhaps. So questioning CJF is the path to credibility here?pretty sad.
I almost never pop into game threads because they seem like personality disorder group therapy gatherings. However, I will sometimes peruse them after a win to get a kick out of some of the takes. I think it’s safe to safe there is plenty of criticism of Franklin in this moment, before plays happen, and after they happen. It’s just the way fans roll.
No, but be smart enough to realize it’s easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight.
I have an abiding respect for how difficult it must be to coach at the D1 level. I also have no desire to earn the respect of whining fanboys.
There could be some debate about who or whom is hyer sensitive. There is unfounded criticism and criticism that is warranted. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD....so disagreeing with Josephine is not permitted? LOL
At least 90% of the Franklin criticism is unwarranted....especially this season. Oh.....that's just my opinion.
90%. Not 89%, not 91%, not 90.001% but 90%
I have a strong respect for all opinions, even ones I don’t agree with.
LOL. Dude, you never coached D1 football. You're unqualified to suggest that up to 10% of Franklin's decisions are flawed. As far as you should be concerned, every decision Franklin has made is the correct one. Admit this now, or you will be incessantly mocked for being an unqualified-to-speak Franklin-hater.There could be some debate about who or whom is hyer sensitive. There is unfounded criticism and criticism that is warranted. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD....so disagreeing with Josephine is not permitted? LOL
At least 90% of the Franklin criticism is unwarranted....especially this season. Oh.....that's just my opinion.
Remember, he respects "studied criticism" even if he can't cite a single example of said "studied criticism" that he didn't refute.
What...not blaming Franklin for the ineffective performance of the 49er back up QBs? Inexcusable, right?
The 49ers seemed to do pretty well with "Mr Irrelevant", their 3rd teamer, at QB. Nice job having a backup ready should something happen to the starter and 2nd teamer.
BTW, Purdy was a 3 star, 5.5 Rivals rating. Ta'quon a 4 star, 5.8 Rivals rating.
From scouting service
Sean Clifford, Penn State: Luckily for Clifford I did not have high expectations for him coming into this game. He did not look good. Clifford was the QB who overthrew Cooks in the endzone. The highlight of his day was when he used his legs to run or extend the play. His passing looked rough.
Sean Clifford, Penn State: Luckily for Clifford I did not have high expectations for him coming into this game. He did not look good. Clifford was the QB who overthrew Cooks in the endzone. The highlight of his day was when he used his legs to run or extend the play. His passing looked rough.
That's disappointing. Am pulling for him. I hope this is an isolated assessment.
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Hardly. Many here are CJFs fans…but also have eyes wide open.Perhaps. So questioning CJF is the path to credibility here?
What is so difficult to understand about the notion that liking & respecting Franklin and disagreeing with aspects of his job performance are not mutually exclusive?
I think he's a grounded family man, a fine representative of the University, runs a clean program, is a great recruiter, embraces the concept of student-athlete, and has undoubtedly had success as a coach.
I also think there have been way too many facepalms on clock management over the years, playing not to lose when he has a lead (fixed that this year IMHO), much less success when things are not part of the normal game week schedule (i.e. record after bye weeks, record during COVID, games like MSU when there was an in-game delay, etc.), hangovers after losses (also much better this year!), player development in some instances, etc.
TLDR version: One can both like James Franklin and disagree with him at times. For reference, please consider your relationship with your spouse or significant other.
Interesting that in your effort to assign credit to Franklin you create two lines, while his "failings' bring four. LOL
However, I will suggest that the positive traits you mention have always been the most important in my judgement.
I fail to see any comparison in evaluating a college football coach as a fan and being in a committed relationship.
My wife passed away more than 13 years ago after 37 years of marriage. So, in fairness, I may have forgotten some things.
But I'm pretty sure if I had as many negative things to say about her as you do Coach Franklin.....the relationship would not have endured.
IMO, the element that you fail to recognize is the nature of competitive sport. Two teams compete....very skilled coaching staffs, and great athletes on both sidelines. Attributing every loss to the coach is a very simplistic approach. As much as we hate to recognize it, sometimes the other guy wins. Coaches will never be perfect....nor will players, and certainly not game officials.
Only fans have all the answers all the time.
However, I will suggest that the positive traits you mention have always been the most important in my judgement.
I fail to see any comparison in evaluating a college football coach as a fan and being in a committed relationship.
My wife passed away more than 13 years ago after 37 years of marriage. So, in fairness, I may have forgotten some things.
But I'm pretty sure if I had as many negative things to say about her as you do Coach Franklin.....the relationship would not have endured.
IMO, the element that you fail to recognize is the nature of competitive sport. Two teams compete....very skilled coaching staffs, and great athletes on both sidelines. Attributing every loss to the coach is a very simplistic approach. As much as we hate to recognize it, sometimes the other guy wins. Coaches will never be perfect....nor will players, and certainly not game officials.
Only fans have all the answers all the time.
Enough with your lame dead wife “woe is me” perspective of life.
Find a meaningful hobby during the remainder of your limited years. You will be a happier camper.
Ha! What a prick
Anyway, fans shouldn't expect Franklin to be perfect, but it's fair to compare the program's overall performance relative to our peers is fair.
Defining "peers" is a little tricky. Some fans consider our peers to be OSU and Michigan, which is an interesting conversation to have. Does he have the same resources as those programs? What win% is acceptable against them?
He's done a good job accelerating the resources available for the program, not to be taken for granted given the administration's reputation. He also put subpar performances together in 2020 and 2021, even considering the unique circumstances. Mixed bag, good trajectory coming out of the Rose Bowl. Let's see where it goes.
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