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What play are you referring to???

My example was hypothetical in advance of a potential punt in a potential future bowl game.

It's poor form we're told to criticize plays that have already happened. So I just thought I'd go on record now with something that'll invoke criticism in the future even if we win a national championship.

But true to form, you're already deflecting blame from the coach on a play that hasn't even happened yet.
What comes first you blaming Franklin for global warning or me disputing it?
 

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The problem is that before this season, those posters weren’t the outliers, they were all over these boards. After 11-2, many went away for a while, but they will be back after the first loss next year. Those are the posters that drive me crazy, they show up after a loss or bad game, but can’t be found after a win.
It's been a difficult season for some Penn State Football fans...... ;)
 

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I’m not talking about the fans but about the program itself. Saban, the coaches, the players, athletic department, school administrators all expect to be in the playoffs. Fans are fans and can set their own expectations, as realistic or unrealistic as they may be. But I am sure this past 10-2 (11-2 with a bowl win? I don’t recall, honestly) is a disappointing season for the aforementioned group. That was my point.
Consistent losing creates disease as does Consistent winning.
From my experience the best feeling is exceeding expectations. I've enjoyed this season. 2005, 2016 more than most.
Winning more than 11 games will require incredible skill and a huge dose of good fortune (injuries etc).
So with such huge expectations going into next year it will likely be a fertile season for second guessers and couch coaches.
 
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What play are you referring to???

My example was hypothetical in advance of a potential punt in a potential future bowl game.

It's poor form we're told to criticize plays that have already happened. So I just thought I'd go on record now with something that'll invoke criticism in the future even if we win a national championship.

But true to form, you're already deflecting blame from the coach on a play that hasn't even happened yet.
Citrus Bowl vs Kentucky
 

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You might not have done those things, but many others have. Here’s a valid criticism I see on here that doesn’t irk me (because I get upset about it too) 3rd and 8 and you throw a six yard pass. Drives me crazy. I hated the constant blitzes that took forever under Pry. I hate slow developing run plays especially in short yardage situations. I hate running Singleton up the middle over and over instead of getting him out wide (hated when they did that with Barkley as well). I hate going from the shotgun in short yardage situations. See, there are a ton of things that I see as valid criticism. As far as the 4th quarter against Purdue, I was just happy they weren’t completing the passes because then they would have beat us.
Thank you for the civil response.
 

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What comes first you blaming Franklin for global warning or me disputing it?
Sorry am not a scientist so I'd never comment on climate change. I stick to my core competency of upselling customers to "Supersize It".
 

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The problem is that before this season, those posters weren’t the outliers, they were all over these boards. After 11-2, many went away for a while, but they will be back after the first loss next year. Those are the posters that drive me crazy, they show up after a loss or bad game, but can’t be found after a win.
I think it’s more likely a group of vocal minority, but I could be wrong.
 

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Consistent losing creates disease as does Consistent winning.
From my experience the best feeling is exceeding expectations. I've enjoyed this season. 2005, 2016 more than most.
Winning more than 11 games will require incredible skill and a huge dose of good fortune (injuries etc).
So with such huge expectations going into next year it will likely be a fertile season for second guessers and couch coaches.
Of course
 

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Wake up, this thread is running out of steam with all this singing around the campfire agreement. Get back to attacking each other on this meaningless, inconsequential yet unresolvable issue. We’re in a prolonged dead period until Spring ball, what else do we have?
 

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Wake up, this thread is running out of steam with all this singing around the campfire agreement. Get back to attacking each other on this meaningless, inconsequential yet unresolvable issue. We’re in a prolonged dead period until Spring ball, what else do we have?
This is one post that agree with 100%. Rest assured that something negative will occur soon that can be attributed to Franklin.
I mean, for what we're paying him, right?
 

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How is this thread nine pages long?

*Clicks ‘Show Ignored Content’*

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Wake up, this thread is running out of steam with all this singing around the campfire agreement. Get back to attacking each other on this meaningless, inconsequential yet unresolvable issue. We’re in a prolonged dead period until Spring ball, what else do we have?
How do I Like and Subscribe to a post?
 

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That’s why I said “post as if they read the message board”….that’s like telling kids to behave like Santa is watching…that doesn’t mean you as a parent believe in Santa. I never said they do read this message board, but if they did, what would you want them to read about the program you support?
You do know that ... SPOILER ALERT ... Santa isn't real, right?! Telling kids to behave like Santa is watching is using a lie that kids are too dumb/trusting to realize is a lie to try to control/modify their behavior.

So, THAT'S what you were going for?

Why would we post as if someone who doesn't read the message boards is reading the message boards? You might as well say "post like chickens are sentient aliens reading this board to come up with plans to take over the world." I could do that, but why would I, unless I'm a total idiot who falls for lies?

In the same vein, I have some life advice for you ... "have sex like your mom is watching."
 

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Wake up, this thread is running out of steam with all this singing around the campfire agreement. Get back to attacking each other on this meaningless, inconsequential yet unresolvable issue. We’re in a prolonged dead period until Spring ball, what else do we have?

Sorry to disappoint you. With that in mind, I'd like to point out that my mother knew more about football than James Franklin's mother.
 

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Wake up, this thread is running out of steam with all this singing around the campfire agreement. Get back to attacking each other on this meaningless, inconsequential yet unresolvable issue. We’re in a prolonged dead period until Spring ball, what else do we have?
We can always anxiously await your next cringe-worthy attempt at humor ... so we have that going for us, which is nice.
 

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We can always anxiously await your next cringe-worthy attempt at humor ... so we have that going for us, which is nice.
Not that the following is an Earth shaking statistic, but it is germane to your post.
Moogy 1190 posts 947 likes.
Me 605 posts 1901 likes.
Yeah it appears that everyone here is ignoring whatever I say and breathlessly awaiting more of your narcissistic behavior to be displayed.
 
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Not that the following is an Earth shaking statistic, but it is germane to your post.
Moogy 1190 posts 947 likes.
Me 605 posts 1901 likes.
Yeah it appears that everyone here is ignoring whatever I say and breathlessly awaiting more of your narcissistic behavior to be displayed.
You're a panderer. You pand. For internet likes.
 

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You're a panderer. You pand. For internet likes.
No, I simply post more often than not what amuses me. And it appears that many other posters agree. It’s not something I usually check, but I was intrigued by the tenor of your post. So I looked. You on the other hand are a narcissist whom people have figured out. You stepped out of your lane and were shown up. That’s very difficult for someone like you to accept. Live with it.
 
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No, I simply post more often than not what amuses me. And it appears that many other posters agree. It’s not something I usually check, but I was intrigued by the tenor of your post. So I looked. You on the other hand are a narcissist whom people have figured out. You stepped out of your lane and were shown up. That’s very difficult for someone like you to accept. Live with it.
Another cringe-worthy attempt at humor.

See? We're keeping the thread going. You may even get some more likes with your pandering.
 

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Another cringe-worthy attempt at humor.

See? We're keeping the thread going. You may even get some more likes with your pandering.
Okay I’ll give you something that you desperately crave. Oh, Moogy you’re the greatest athlete and finest poster on any subject the board discusses. Please tell us more about your achievements and accomplishments.
(In alignment with your thought process I’m going to break form and stop answering your posts because I’m not needing any additional likes at this moment in time). However if by some happenstance I get one or more I’ll contact the mods and have them added to your total.
But don’t let my reticence in further posting in this exciting repartee deter you from answering. And please keep us all updated on every facet of your life. Everyone here is dying to know more. Feel better now big boy?
 
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Okay I’ll give you something that you desperately crave. Oh, Moogy you’re the greatest athlete and finest poster on any subject the board discusses. Please tell us more about your achievements and accomplishments.
(In alignment with your thought process I’m going to break form and stop answering your posts because I’m not needing any additional likes at this moment in time). However if by some happenstance I get one or more I’ll contact the mods and have them added to your total.
But don’t let my reticence in further posting in this exciting repartee deter you from answering. And please keep us all updated on every facet of your life. Everyone here is dying to know more. Feel better now big boy?
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Okay I’ll give you something that you desperately crave. Oh, Moogy you’re the greatest athlete and finest poster on any subject the board discusses. Please tell us more about your achievements and accomplishments.
(In alignment with your thought process I’m going to break form and stop answering your posts because I’m not needing any additional likes at this moment in time). However if by some happenstance I get one or more I’ll contact the mods and have them added to your total.
But don’t let my reticence in further posting in this exciting repartee deter you from answering. And please keep us all updated on every facet of your life. Everyone here is dying to know more. Feel better now big boy?
I know you are, but what am I?

And here I thought you wanted to keep this thread going with petty fighting because you were bored.

You can’t trust anyone nowadays.
 

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This is one post that agree with 100%. Rest assured that something negative will occur soon that can be attributed to Franklin.
I mean, for what we're paying him, right?
I have a question I’d like to ask, regarding your post above about JF’s salary. First off it’s what the present market calls for, and more power to him. But this is a hypothetical that one day coaches may face. How is it handled if at all?

Envision the following scenario, very similar to professional sports where many players make more money than the head coach or manager in baseball. And obviously more than most assistants. NIL continues to grow, becomes more prevalent and vast amounts of money are provided to the athlete instead of the coaches. ( Don’t say it will never happen, anything can happen much too often to our belated surprise).
How does a college coach maintain control in that regard? ( Texas A&M this past season may be an early precursor of the problem, and even there the salary distribution greatly favored the coaching staff).
Professional athletes in their 20’s and 30’s are a much different animal than a room full teenagers with excess money to burn, away from home for the first time with feelings of invincibility. And actually making more money than most assistant coaches on the staff. In such a case, lack of instant success would cause much quicker termination, because it’s easier and less costly to jettison one than 85.
That would be one hell of a situation to manage with I assume the head coach earning every penny of his mid to high seven figure income. Just food for thought in an increasingly complex world.
 

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Think about why you or anyone would care? 2020? I know the RB was told not to score.....he looked immediately at the sideline when he stepped into the end zone. Didn't anyone consult with you before they gave Coach a big fat contract......which came after his alleged coaching error? They didn't? I wonder why? Perhaps because no one in a decision making capacity at Penn State gives a rat's *** what you think? Yep, I'll bet that's it.
Do you think they should fire the Bengals Coach? Cleary he didn't do a good job coaching and impressing his players not to hit the quarterback out of bounds. That never would have happened on your watch Knute.
But if it makes you happy to blame Franklin for every loss that happened since he arrived ....good for you. You have perhaps a dozen couch coaching experts here to bolster your arguments. See what changes it brings.
9 more years .It's so exciting to know the pain and suffering you have in your future.......bring on the collective coaching wisdom of every fanboy here ......which totals ?......LOL

WE DESERVE BETTER
No skin off my news fanboy.

I just pointed out a simple mistake.

You are the one who is so thin-skin that you feel compelled to give us three novellas a week defending a simple mistake.

I just sit back and laugh at all the anguish it causes you.
 
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You do know that ... SPOILER ALERT ... Santa isn't real, right?! Telling kids to behave like Santa is watching is using a lie that kids are too dumb/trusting to realize is a lie to try to control/modify their behavior.

So, THAT'S what you were going for?

Why would we post as if someone who doesn't read the message boards is reading the message boards? You might as well say "post like chickens are sentient aliens reading this board to come up with plans to take over the world." I could do that, but why would I, unless I'm a total idiot who falls for lies?

In the same vein, I have some life advice for you ... "have sex like your mom is watching."
Maybe the dumbest take I’ve ever read on here. Recruits may read this board, no one knows for sure. But all I was saying was to use that thought as a guide to how to post…you’re taking it far too literally.
 
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Maybe the dumbest take I’ve ever read on here. Recruits may read this board, no one knows for sure. But all I was saying was to use that thought as a guide to how to post…you’re taking it far too literally.
I understand your concern, but have you ever spent much time reading other schools boards? Especially after a loss. What goes on here in both victory and defeat is a virtual love fest compared to some other boards. If I were a member of our recruiting staff (which thankfully I’m not) I would encourage a recruit to read our disagreements, and then read a few others if they were our competitor for that recruit. Amazing what some idiots say on those forums.
 

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Maybe the dumbest take I’ve ever read on here. Recruits may read this board, no one knows for sure. But all I was saying was to use that thought as a guide to how to post…you’re taking it far too literally.
Yes, yours is the dumbest take you've ever read on here. Recruits don't read this board. And it wouldn't matter if they did. But you want us to post as if they did read the board, and as if it would matter what we say on here. And Santa's going to put coal in our stocking if we don't listen to you. "Like, OMG, DudePoop69 on that message board hates James Franklin and thinks he's a terrible coach ... I was going to go to Penn State, but now, I'm convinced not to."
 

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Yes, yours is the dumbest take you've ever read on here. Recruits don't read this board. And it wouldn't matter if they did. But you want us to post as if they did read the board, and as if it would matter what we say on here. And Santa's going to put coal in our stocking if we don't listen to you. "Like, OMG, DudePoop69 on that message board hates James Franklin and thinks he's a terrible coach ... I was going to go to Penn State, but now, I'm convinced not to."
Did you duck when the point of my post went over your head? You’re just not getting it. Maybe I need to type slower.
 
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I understand your concern, but have you ever spent much time reading other schools boards? Especially after a loss. What goes on here in both victory and defeat is a virtual love fest compared to some other boards. If I were a member of our recruiting staff (which thankfully I’m not) I would encourage a recruit to read our disagreements, and then read a few others if they were our competitor for that recruit. Amazing what some idiots say on those forums.
So is it the goal of some posters on here to be more idiotic than posters on other boards? Seems like a pretty crappy target to strive for.
 

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So is it the goal of some posters on here to be more idiotic than posters on other boards? Seems like a pretty crappy target to strive for.
Who said that, you’re either being dishonest and lying or you can’t read. I merely and clearly said that some posters on other sites are more virulent than here. And that any comparison between them and us would reflect well for this board. I never said nor intimidated that we should act or even try to act that way. Try reading and comprehending something before you post.
 

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Who said that, you’re either being dishonest and lying or you can’t read. I merely and clearly said that some posters on other sites are more virulent than here. And that any comparison between them and us would reflect well for this board. I never said nor intimidated that we should act or even try to act that way. Try reading and comprehending something before you post.
Lighten up dude, I was making a tongue in cheek comment….if in fact the other boards are worse, I was stating that some on here must be trying to top them. Today must be literal day on this board.
 
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