Cory Giger got owned today by Franklin. I sort of loved this entire thing.

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James Franklin has long stated how he likes his offenses to have an identity that incorporates explosive plays. So, the lack of explosiveness very well might be gnawing at him a little bit so far, but he also really likes winning the turnover margin. If "throwing deep" is not working quite yet with this QB and set of receivers, then you keep doing what has been working up to this point. If it's not there, then it's not there. Indeed, Allar will at some point need to start taking some more risks in order to grow and keep good defenses honest, but for right now Franklin should be content seeing the kid make decisions that tend to keep him out of trouble. The receivers are a big part of this equation as well.
 
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Actually I like the idea of going deep early in a game….just throw it 10 yds long or out-of-bounds if the receiver’s not open.

It maybe helps keep the corners and safeties from so quickly supporting their run-stuffing efforts!
 

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James Franklin has long stated how he likes his offenses to have an identity that incorporates explosive plays. So, the lack of explosiveness very well might be gnawing at him a little bit so far, but he also really likes winning the turnover margin. If "throwing deep" is not working quite yet with this QB and set of receivers, then you keep doing what has been working up to this point. If it's not there, then it's not there. Indeed, Allar will at some point need to start taking some more risks in order to grow and keep good defenses honest, but for right now Franklin should be content seeing the kid make decisions that tend to keep him out of trouble. The receivers are a big part of this equation as well.

i've wondered a few times if he's keeping something "in the bag" for scUM or tOSU.... Probably wouldn't be a good idea against tOSU with them playing more to beat the deep ball this year. tOSU just seems ripe for a ball control kind of game, which is what PSU has been playing so far.
 

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And oh, btw, who would ever message him threats?!? God god peoples, it’s a game

I'd counter that with, who would ever care about what people on the internet say about them? I know one person on this site personally, the rest of you clowns I could give 2 spits about what you say to me. Taken a while to get there, but if you're gonna be on social media, you NEED to have thick skin and put it into perspective. I look at everyone through the troll lens....
 

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I'd counter that with, who would ever care about what people on the internet say about them? I know one person on this site personally, the rest of you clowns I could give 2 spits about what you say to me. Taken a while to get there, but if you're gonna be on social media, you NEED to have thick skin and put it into perspective. I look at everyone through the troll lens....


Because we happen to live in a day and age when you can't be sure that online threats will stay online.
 
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Because we happen to live in a day and age when you can't be sure that online threats will stay online.

that's really hyperbolic.... COULD it happen, sure, but in the grand scheme of things DOES it happen??? You COULD get struck by lightning.... do you live your life being concerned by it?
 

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that's really hyperbolic.... COULD it happen, sure, but in the grand scheme of things DOES it happen??? You COULD get struck by lightning.... do you live your life being concerned by it?

It's a more realistic threat than it was even 5 years ago. We're in a very stupid time in America. It's not unreasonable to be concerned about threats made online.
 

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And oh, btw, who would ever message him threats?!? God god peoples, it’s a game
This isn't anything new. JoePa used to get death threat phone calls to his house. People would come up to Sue in the supermarket and give her a hard time about last weeks game. People have always been nuts, it's just amplified by social media these days because people can hide behind their computers.

I am no Cory Giger fan and stopped listen to his constant negativity a long time ago. Lets not forget he tried to make a name for himself on ESPiN when the scandal hit by saying everyone in town knew about Sandusky, yada, yada, but failed miserably at it. Ignore the unwanted behavior.
 

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Actually I like the idea of going deep early in a game….just throw it 10 yds long or out-of-bounds if the receiver’s not open.

It maybe helps keep the corners and safeties from so quickly supporting their run-stuffing efforts!

Will Allar be able to go deep with wet balls?
 
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This isn't anything new. JoePa used to get death threat phone calls to his house. People would come up to Sue in the supermarket and give her a hard time about last weeks game. People have always been nuts, it's just amplified by social media these days because people can hide behind their computers.

I am no Cory Giger fan and stopped listen to his constant negativity a long time ago. Lets not forget he tried to make a name for himself on ESPiN when the scandal hit by saying everyone in town knew about Sandusky, yada, yada, but failed miserably at it. Ignore the unwanted behavior.
Exactly. Giger is no friend of Penn State's. He sold the University down the river during the Sandusky scandal.
 

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それは愚かな質問です

Or something like that. And no, I don't speak Japanese. Google translate is a fun toy.
 

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It's a more realistic threat than it was even 5 years ago. We're in a very stupid time in America. It's not unreasonable to be concerned about threats made online.

Don't disagree that it's more realistic now than it was 5 years ago, I just don't agree with changing my life for something that while it CAN happen, rarely does. Then again, I work in cyber and am very capable of obscuring my digital trail (and I take measures to do so), as well as the fact that I'm not a public figure.
 

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It's been ten years I don't know why we haven't done more to make the little people who screwed us in 2011 pay a price. All the local sports writers should have been gone a long time ago.

Dirty them up, I don't care. People like this Altoid wonder and Jones absolutely do not deserve to make their living off PSU.
 

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Wonder if Franklin's skin crawled the many times Trace completed 50-50 balls to Godwin or Gesicki who were masterful at pulling them down?
As man times as Godwin or Gesiski came down with the football, were they REALLY 50-50 balls?? Maybe more like 80-20 balls and the staff knew it? The law of averages seemed to never seemed to catch up to the play call.
 

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As man times as Godwin or Gesiski came down with the football, were they REALLY 50-50 balls?? Maybe more like 80-20 balls and the staff knew it? The law of averages seemed to never seemed to catch up to the play call.
There is also a difference between having "50/50" passes as part of your game plan, and having the QB make a decision based on his reads. Giger's question was more along the lines of "why the hell don't you just throw the ball deep and see what happens?"

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There is also a difference between having "50/50" passes as part of your game plan, and having the QB make a decision based on his reads. Giger's question was more along the lines of "why the hell don't you just throw the ball deep and see what happens?"


That's the thing. There's a real question to be asked there, but it should have been along the line of "are you concerned about the lack of deep passes and the need to stretch the field vertically?" or something like that. Not, "why don't you just chuck it up and see what happens?"
 

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Actually I like the idea of going deep early in a game….just throw it 10 yds long or out-of-bounds if the receiver’s not open.

It maybe helps keep the corners and safeties from so quickly supporting their run-stuffing efforts!

I could kind of see that, but if it isn't successful or it is well covered, it would probably have the opposite effect of emboldening the opponent to not worry about that as a threat.
 

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That's the thing. There's a real question to be asked there, but it should have been along the line of "are you concerned about the lack of deep passes and the need to stretch the field vertically?" or something like that. Not, "why don't you just chuck it up and see what happens?"
Bingo.

There is a huge issue worth being "asked about".
PSU's offense is among the less efficient in the run game - and among the less efficient in the pass game - through five games, despite a slate of 5 games vs lousy teams (aside from 1/2 of the Iowa team, which has a legit defense).
PSU's very high level of points scored is almost entirely due to: Lousy opposition, and the PSU Defense playing such dominating ball and allowing the PSU offense to have the ball for 2/3 of the game, usually in good field position.
If Giger was trying to "get to" that type of question, he did a lousy job of it. Not a Giger fan, for many reasons, but IF that was his intent, the intent was fine, but the delivery was lousy.
 
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Let. me also mention, I am a big fan of Josh Pate. At first, i think his style is off putting to some people.
But, he knows what he is talking about and more importantly, what he doesn't know.
His producer is also a Penn State fan and he seems like there is a little soft spot there for us.
 

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Bingo.

There is a huge issue worth being "asked about".
PSU's offense is among the less efficient in the run game - and among the less efficient in the pass game - through five games, despite a slate of 5 games vs lousy teams (aside from 1/2 of the Iowa team, which has a legit defense).
PSU's very high level of points scored is almost entirely due to: Lousy opposition, and the PSU Defense playing such dominating ball and allowing the PSU offense to have the ball for 2/3 of the game, usually in good field position.
If Giger was trying to "get to" that type of question, he did a lousy job of it. Not a Giger fan, for many reasons, but IF that was his intent, the intent was fine, but the delivery was lousy.

I would argue with you over penn state playing lousy teams. Iowa is 29th in total defense and since we are talking about our offense, doesn't that fully count? West Virginia is 36th in total defense. And sure, the other teams suck, but, do those not count?

Everybody complained when Franklin focused on big plays. "just run the ball, just move the ball".
Now we are moving the ball like a machine. We are #11 in scoring offense. (higher than scUM or OSU)

This is exactly what we have always needed when we played Ohio State. Slow and dominating.
If we had that in 2017, we would have closed out the 4th quarter with no problem.
 

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I think the problem in throwing deep this year is that we do not seem to have the receivers who have been able to get open deep. Heck, some of them have struggled to get separation at any level, which is such a shame now that we have a qb like Allar who can make so many of the throws.
 

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I think the problem in throwing deep this year is that we do not seem to have the receivers who have been able to get open deep. Heck, some of them have struggled to get separation at any level, which is such a shame now that we have a qb like Allar who can make so many of the throws.
You think it is a shame this year? Wait until Allar's last year in 2024 when the situation is no better. They had better score big in the portal to remedy a close to untenable situation. I'm thinking like Jordan Addison to USC type of portal acquisition.
 
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It's not that bad. Been in a bunch of pressers way more uncomfortable. Watch some Boeheim pressers at the ACC tournament in Greensboro when he implies that the entire ACC is conspiring against him (the room is filled with ACC media and ACC types btw). Painful. Even painful silence at times.

Yesterday was sort of like Joe with some of the writers over the years -- your question is not important, not very realistic, it's not a good question etc. Put some shorts on Jones type exchange, not a huge media story imho. and yes, Giger is a tool but no big deal here.
 

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There is also a difference between having "50/50" passes as part of your game plan, and having the QB make a decision based on his reads. Giger's question was more along the lines of "why the hell don't you just throw the ball deep and see what happens?"

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Not defending a dumb question. Just saying if you have the right personal like those 2 receivers the chance of you coming down with it was more than 50-50.
 
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