Does Sparty have a "Get Out of Jail Free" card?

Nitt1300

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Being cynical: depends, right? If he wins the national championship, then they suspend him and investigate. If he starts losing during the season, suspend and investigate. As long as as he kept winning during the season, they weren't going to do anything is my take. This is modern athletics.
and modern ethics
 

GrimReaper

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Tucker has a $77 million buyout?
Hope they wrote in a good morality clause in that contract, and have good lawyers.

They’ll settle.
Yes, to both. His conduct is sufficient to invoke for cause. But inevitably he'll sue and MSU will settle because it will be cheaper and more efficient than going to court. In the end, Tucker will receive far less than his guarantee, particularly after his lawyers take their cut.
 

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Agreed. Something smells fishy here (pun intended). It almost sounds like she was a honey trap for MSU to fire Tucker. No way that someone with her background would have let this go on to the point that it did.
That's exactly what I was thinking... talk about getting drawn offsides
 

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Maybe this has been discussed, but help me with this …

[Tracy] thought to herself ‘Oh my god, this is happening and I can’t stop it, it’s going to happen whether I like it or not.’ [Tracy] was trying to figure out what to do. It didn’t occur to [Tracy] that she could hang up. [Tracy] kept thinking over and over that she has to say something and that she can’t let this happen again, referring to her prior experience of being a victim/survivor of sexual assault.”

My phone has a button I push if/when I want to end a conversation.
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I’m not making light of the incident, just find it strange.

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Agreed. Something smells fishy here (pun intended). It almost sounds like she was a honey trap for MSU to fire Tucker. No way that someone with her background would have let this go on to the point that it did.
Keep in mind that she was never in danger of imminent physical harm. Creates a different perspective.
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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I’m late to this party (I did zero reading) but I see this woman surrounded by football programs. How is she allowed near these programs?
 

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”"I can only conclude that there is an ulterior motive designed to terminate my contract based on some other factor, such as a desire to avoid any [Nassar] taint, or my race or gender," Tucker, who is Black, said in the statement.”
 

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”"I can only conclude that there is an ulterior motive designed to terminate my contract based on some other factor, such as a desire to avoid any [Nassar] taint, or my race or gender," Tucker, who is Black, said in the statement.”
I’ve seen this “or my race“ 100 times in business first hand. He’s staying whole, she’s getting paid. MSU football will be a bottom feeder for a few years.
 

marshall23

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Tracy filed a complaint 8 months after the phone incident in question. Only after Tuck canceled/ postponed a scheduled (Tracy) appearance.
No paragons of virtue in this mess.
He's ruined and I ask, would you initiate a business relationship with this woman?
 

GrimReaper

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No she appears (by pics and no reading) to buddy up with vips then slay them for court $ (which is what happened)
"Buddy(ing) up with (sic) vips" is a perfectly legitimate way to generate business. And what do you mean by "court $"? Are you suggesting that she serially sues or threatens lawsuits? Can you back that up or did it disappear when your last DT passed (since you reached that conclusion by "pics")?
 

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3 times it appears

That question was rhetorical after the picture of the accuser and the accused together, presumably in their stadium, was posted somewhere on the site.

But this does give me another opportunity to marvel at what a rape factory msu is. The rape just comes off of them in waves. You can see it like heat waves on a hot day.
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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"Buddy(ing) up with (sic) vips" is a perfectly legitimate way to generate business. And what do you mean by "court $"? Are you suggesting that she serially sues or threatens lawsuits? Can you back that up or did it disappear when your last DT passed (since you reached that conclusion by "pics")?
He’s doing what I’ve seen 100 times, zero amount surprised. And he’s doing it cause it works, you’ll see.
‘As for her posing in big hugs with the head coaches “to market” is a poor idea to me. Sends the wrong message, which of course is presently being proven.
 

marshall23

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That question was rhetorical after the picture of the accuser and the accused together, presumably in their stadium, was posted somewhere on the site.

But this does give me another opportunity to marvel at what a rape factory msu is. The rape just comes off of them in waves. You can see it like heat waves on a hot day.
Do you call this rape?
 

laKavosiey-st lion

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He? Back to the sauce.
I’m commenting 1 on the coach doing the black card, then 2 “her” marketing with big hugs on the coaches
appropriate corporate marketing:

inappropriate corporate marketing (proven)

The top picture never leads to bobbing in paper towels
 
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LionJim

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Trust me, they settle cause of the black card he played
Good luck convincing a jury that a white guy who admitted to masturbating during a phone call with a work colleague would have been allowed to keep his job.

I find this particular determining line to be helpful: if the person was a tenured college professor, would that particular transgression have cost him his job? (It’s very hard and very expensive to fire tenured professors for cause.) With these facts, 100%.
 
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Good luck convincing a jury that a white guy who admitted to masturbating during a phone call with a work colleague would have been allowed to keep his job.

I find this particular determining line to be helpful: if the person was a tenured college professor, would that particular transgression have cost him his job? (It’s very hard and very expensive to fire tenured professors for cause.) With these facts, 100%.
There is also a "moral turpitude" clause in Tucker's contract which stipulates that MSU is the sole judge of conduct that would subject the University to "public disrespect, contempt, or ridicule."
 

LionJim

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There is also a "moral turpitude" clause in Tucker's contract which stipulates that MSU is the sole judge of conduct that would subject the University to "public disrespect, contempt, or ridicule."
Lol, did not know this.
 

GrimReaper

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Lol, did not know this.
I think that MSU has a solid defense, but it doesn't matter what I think. Problem is that when a case gets into the hands of a jury it's difficult to predict the outcome (I've seen this firsthand on a umber of occasions). I think MSU will try to avoid that and attempt to convince a judge that the language of the contract obviates the dispute from adjudication Failing that, they may throw some cash Mel's way to have him go away.
 

LionJim

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I think that MSU has a solid defense, but it doesn't matter what I think. Problem is that when a case gets into the hands of a jury it's difficult to predict the outcome (I've seen this firsthand on a umber of occasions). I think MSU will try to avoid that and attempt to convince a judge that the language of the contract obviates the dispute from adjudication Failing that, they may throw some cash Mel's way to have him go away.
Par for the course, yeah. It’s almost always cheaper to settle.
 

GrimReaper

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Par for the course, yeah. It’s almost always cheaper to settle.
Not necessarily. One of the juries I sat on was a medical malpractice case. Wound up as a hung jury. Do I think that the plaintiff's contingency-based attorney brought it to trial again? Nope. Sat on another where the attorney's share of the award wouldn't have covered her stationery costs.
 
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laKavosiey-st lion

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In my experience, this is what’s going to happen after the black card. It’s gonna be a lot and it will never be known how much
 
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