Just heard in an interview at msu:
”You don't have to worry about me. I won a contest.”
”You don't have to worry about me. I won a contest.”
and modern ethicsBeing cynical: depends, right? If he wins the national championship, then they suspend him and investigate. If he starts losing during the season, suspend and investigate. As long as as he kept winning during the season, they weren't going to do anything is my take. This is modern athletics.
Tucker has a $77 million buyout?
Hope they wrote in a good morality clause in that contract, and have good lawyers.
Yes, to both. His conduct is sufficient to invoke for cause. But inevitably he'll sue and MSU will settle because it will be cheaper and more efficient than going to court. In the end, Tucker will receive far less than his guarantee, particularly after his lawyers take their cut.They’ll settle.
That's exactly what I was thinking... talk about getting drawn offsidesAgreed. Something smells fishy here (pun intended). It almost sounds like she was a honey trap for MSU to fire Tucker. No way that someone with her background would have let this go on to the point that it did.
Maybe this has been discussed, but help me with this …
[Tracy] thought to herself ‘Oh my god, this is happening and I can’t stop it, it’s going to happen whether I like it or not.’ [Tracy] was trying to figure out what to do. It didn’t occur to [Tracy] that she could hang up. [Tracy] kept thinking over and over that she has to say something and that she can’t let this happen again, referring to her prior experience of being a victim/survivor of sexual assault.”
My phone has a button I push if/when I want to end a conversation.
I’m not making light of the incident, just find it strange.
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Keep in mind that she was never in danger of imminent physical harm. Creates a different perspective.Agreed. Something smells fishy here (pun intended). It almost sounds like she was a honey trap for MSU to fire Tucker. No way that someone with her background would have let this go on to the point that it did.
She's invited by the schools/programs to talk about sexual harassment. It's how she makes her living.I’m late to this party (I did zero reading) but I see this woman surrounded by football programs. How is she allowed near these programs?
So not an opportunist? Color me skepticalShe's invited by the schools/programs to talk about sexual harassment. It's how she makes her living
You mean like anyone else who sells a good or service? Schools aren't required to hire her.So not an opportunist? Color me skeptical
No, I have not.Clearly you’ve never been on the phone with someone who’s playing five on one.
No she appears (by pics and no reading) to buddy up with vips then slay them for court $ (which is what happened)You mean like anyone else who sells a good or service? Schools aren't required to hire her.
Keep in mind that she was never in danger of imminent physical harm.
I’ve seen this “or my race“ 100 times in business first hand. He’s staying whole, she’s getting paid. MSU football will be a bottom feeder for a few years.![]()
Tucker denies claims, calls MSU hearing 'a sham'
Suspended Michigan State coach Mel Tucker adamantly denied claims that he sexually harassed noted sexual assault awareness speaker Brenda Tracy in a statement on Monday, and called an upcoming hearing about the claims "a sham" and "ridiculously flawed."www.espn.com
”"I can only conclude that there is an ulterior motive designed to terminate my contract based on some other factor, such as a desire to avoid any [Nassar] taint, or my race or gender," Tucker, who is Black, said in the statement.”
"Buddy(ing) up with (sic) vips" is a perfectly legitimate way to generate business. And what do you mean by "court $"? Are you suggesting that she serially sues or threatens lawsuits? Can you back that up or did it disappear when your last DT passed (since you reached that conclusion by "pics")?No she appears (by pics and no reading) to buddy up with vips then slay them for court $ (which is what happened)
3 times it appearsDid she ever set foot on MSU's campus? That should be hazard pay at this point. I'm only like 30% facetious.
3 times it appears
He’s doing what I’ve seen 100 times, zero amount surprised. And he’s doing it cause it works, you’ll see."Buddy(ing) up with (sic) vips" is a perfectly legitimate way to generate business. And what do you mean by "court $"? Are you suggesting that she serially sues or threatens lawsuits? Can you back that up or did it disappear when your last DT passed (since you reached that conclusion by "pics")?
He? Back to the sauce.He’s doing what I’ve seen 100 times, zero amount surprised.
Do you call this rape?That question was rhetorical after the picture of the accuser and the accused together, presumably in their stadium, was posted somewhere on the site.
But this does give me another opportunity to marvel at what a rape factory msu is. The rape just comes off of them in waves. You can see it like heat waves on a hot day.
Do you call this rape?
I’m commenting 1 on the coach doing the black card, then 2 “her” marketing with big hugs on the coachesHe? Back to the sauce.
Or dead man wankingExactly.
I believe the term used here with other coaches is - dead man walking.
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Must be some real rotgut that got you there.I’m commenting 1 on the coach doing the black card, then 2 “her” marketing with big hugs on the coaches
Super healthy yo, gotta post up the gym pic again?Must be some real rotgut that got you there.
Good luck convincing a jury that a white guy who admitted to masturbating during a phone call with a work colleague would have been allowed to keep his job.Trust me, they settle cause of the black card he played
There is also a "moral turpitude" clause in Tucker's contract which stipulates that MSU is the sole judge of conduct that would subject the University to "public disrespect, contempt, or ridicule."Good luck convincing a jury that a white guy who admitted to masturbating during a phone call with a work colleague would have been allowed to keep his job.
I find this particular determining line to be helpful: if the person was a tenured college professor, would that particular transgression have cost him his job? (It’s very hard and very expensive to fire tenured professors for cause.) With these facts, 100%.
Lol, did not know this.There is also a "moral turpitude" clause in Tucker's contract which stipulates that MSU is the sole judge of conduct that would subject the University to "public disrespect, contempt, or ridicule."
I think that MSU has a solid defense, but it doesn't matter what I think. Problem is that when a case gets into the hands of a jury it's difficult to predict the outcome (I've seen this firsthand on a umber of occasions). I think MSU will try to avoid that and attempt to convince a judge that the language of the contract obviates the dispute from adjudication Failing that, they may throw some cash Mel's way to have him go away.Lol, did not know this.
Par for the course, yeah. It’s almost always cheaper to settle.I think that MSU has a solid defense, but it doesn't matter what I think. Problem is that when a case gets into the hands of a jury it's difficult to predict the outcome (I've seen this firsthand on a umber of occasions). I think MSU will try to avoid that and attempt to convince a judge that the language of the contract obviates the dispute from adjudication Failing that, they may throw some cash Mel's way to have him go away.
Not necessarily. One of the juries I sat on was a medical malpractice case. Wound up as a hung jury. Do I think that the plaintiff's contingency-based attorney brought it to trial again? Nope. Sat on another where the attorney's share of the award wouldn't have covered her stationery costs.Par for the course, yeah. It’s almost always cheaper to settle.
It’s not likely that MSU, being a state school, would be able to hide the details of any settlement.In my experience, this is what’s going to happen after the black card. It’s gonna be a lot and it will never be known how much
That’s interesting and I can’t wait to seeIt’s not likely that MSU, being a state school, would be able to hide the details of any settlement.