FC: Whew Mauti let's Jay have it with both barrels
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They really need to consolidate NIL efforts here; there are at least four and then you have whatever Sean Clifford is doing. I'd do what A&M is doing and basically putting their NIL operation adjacent to the athletic department. There are way too many people who want to be important or of influence when what we need is a single, professional operation with a separate organizational chart for football. Leverage advertising/promotional opportunities with the school brand in exchange for NIL dollars.
Very classy Dave...guess you are a great example of what PSU is graduating these days.
The good news is with those withholding their money for NIL/PSU athletics they won't spend any time on this site or being critical of sports where they don't want to help contribute to. Should brighten things up and they can maybe start bragging on other social media sites about their other charitable activities, but that usually does come across as super douchey.
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1 question I do have on all this is the timing... Shrew talked about lack of NIL and and these quotes were from back in December. Is Jay now referring to those quotes from Shrew? Yes PSU NIL stepped up in the last few weeks but when Shrew was quoted about lack of NIL and in the bottom of the Big10 he was probably spot on with his comments. If I am wrong on my timeline I apologize...
“Putting their NIL operation adjacent to the athletic department.” Wouldn’t putting it within the athletic department be a better strategy? I have a feeling I’m really not understanding what you mean.
Not sure how many staff solely dedicated to PSU SWH has. Guessing not many.
It's a pu$sy move by anyone to get involved in a Twitter battle. Have a problem with someone about a similar goal you're both trying to accomplish?? Do you feel that other person is being unreasonable when they're chasing the same dollars you are?? Do you feel that other person is going about it all wrong?? Be adults, meet, and discuss it. It's what they call a conversation. Twitter feuds are what you see between dim-witted politicians and celebrities.
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If this were just a Penn State sports site I would agree with you and I would not be here. Beyond that, I think that my donating for 40 years has earned me the right to be critical. I would still be sending checks if I thought the money was in good hands. I do agree with those who say that all this infighting is counterproductive and while I no longer bleed blue and white, for the sake of those who do, I hope the warring parties will come together, as reasonable men and women should, and work out their differences.
Cool, so you only comment then on non PSU sports topics right? I mean you don't bleed blue and white and don't care if the teams are competitive at all any more so basically you're here for all OT topics. Good stuff. Not singling you out, but those that love to jump and down all the time over all things Franklin like the idiot from Harrisburg....then sit there and say my hands are tied due to what the BoT did to Joe 10 years ago...I'll take it out on the current folks. The infighting does need to stop, but some people won't let things go and want to hold it against those that weren't even here for it with current coaches/players. Seems reasonable to me all the way around.
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Fair, you can’t argue with stupid, so why try?
Partly true. As I noted, I did donate for 40 years and so, right or wrong, I think that earned me the right to offer my insight, or lack thereof, and I will continue to do so. I might add that my parting of the ways with Penn State preceded Joe's treatment, although that was the final nail in the coffin. Besides, this is America. No one needs a vested interest to ***** and complain. Its in the Constitution...that 1st Amendment thing. Finally, I offer my services to mediate this ugly family fight. I normally bill out at $300.00 an hour, although I find it necessary to double that given the hostility I see before me. If the opposing parties are interested, have their people call my people.Cool, so you only comment then on non PSU sports topics right? I mean you don't bleed blue and white and don't care if the teams are competitive at all any more so basically you're here for all OT topics. Good stuff. Not singling you out, but those that love to jump and down all the time over all things Franklin....then sit there and say my hands are tied due to what the BoT did to Joe 10 years ago...I'll take it out on the current folks. The infighting does need to stop, but some people won't let things go and want to hold it against those that weren't even here for it with current coaches/players. Seems reasonable to me all the way around.
Jay and Mauti need to meet in the Champ’s parking lot.
True, in this country we do have a ton of folks that just love to complain.
And many who love to complain about those who love to complain.
Well, within is fine but would want a bit of arm’s length between the NIL and PSU administrators; still, would want to work closely with corporate sponsors, advancement, coaching staff, etc. Get everyone on one page.
Interesting points - if NIL actually had much to do with anything surrounding "Names Image and Likeness".
But, to the surprise of absolutely no one (I would think), "NIL", nationally, has morphed - at the speed of greed and all of the other Seven Deadlies - into simply "Buy Us Players, and Pay the Ones We Got" (So We Can Win More Games). Not really all that much need for the other stuff, at least at the time being.
Remember when it was going to be "helping student-athletes develop their brand", and all that other buzzword jibberish? Wasn't all that long ago, in calendar time - but a lifetime ago in every other way.
An ATM - and someone to keep it fully stocked - seem to be the only requisites in the minds of most fans.
I'll say it again- the NFL looks better and better.
So, for the football team essentially a ‘front office’ to issue contracts and make payments. Works for me.
Now we're getting interesting. So who decides who gets what? Do you think that Jim Larranaga had any input into what Nijel Pack and Isaiah Wong got?
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People can decide for themselves if getting involved in this "business" at whatever level is something they want to do.
Fans, of course, can also decide if this is what they want from their preferred "rooting interest".
Franklin can’t leave the college football NILs to the Mautis and the Paternos.
The Alumni Assoc. has a membership drive of 50% off the customary price....obviously PSUAA has the ability to reduce their fees....so why hasn't this been utilized to jump start NIL? It is reported PSU has about 750,000 dues paying members in AA....at 20% annual dues paying members that would be approx 150,000 @ $25/member = $3,750,000 If the Alumni Assoc can give a 50% discount to help drive membership....why can't Kraft and Nelli use this same dues discount approach to jump start NIL? No additional funds for Alumni to pony up.
Seems there isn't any imaginative thinking toward NIL....just the same old dig deep and donate more!
Because schools can't provide money to fund NIL, so they'll need to be more creative than what you suggest.
This isn’t meant to be an explicit counterpoint to your arguments here, but one player on the Miami MBB team got $400k for transferring for one year, paid for by one person. I don’t know how this fits into the general NIL landscape but I’m under the distinct impression that this Miami model is SOP, and will continue to be so. Yeah, it does seem that “there isn’t any imaginative thinking toward NIL” at PSU, but I’ve missed seeing any imaginative models anywhere else.
There was an attempt to connect the AA with SWH. It was shot down by the NCAA as the employees of AA are employees of PSU.
Believe that Nijel Pack got $800k for two years which works out to the same thing. His deal was with John Ruiz, a wealthy donor who is bankrolling a lot of NIL deals to Miami's benefit. Prima facie, there is no school involvement. The reality is anyone's guess.
Well not to mention I don't think the AD's can directly just flat out fundraise and distribute money to athletes. Most of the schools are leveraging social media, autograph signings, appearance fees, and local businesses in addition to their own NIL collectives school alums are starting up. Since it is so gray and still being developed schools are going to push the boundaries though. Then again people that get on pulpits talking about how they won't donate still want to carry on about the thing they won't donate to. Makes perfect sense.
And who plays the role of sheriff? Right now it’s the NCAA, is my understanding. Can you blame me for thinking that the NCAA is already overwhelmed and it’s going to get worse? Gee willikers, I can hardly wait to see what it’s looking like five years down the road.
I’m going to get off my soapbox and let the focus get back to how PSU should best incorporate NIL into their athletic programs.
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