FC: Whew Mauti let's Jay have it with both barrels

GrimReaper

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

One day, we will all look back at barren and Sandy as Penn State’s golden era.
Just keep in mind that Indiana Fats and Ms. Excellence created the situations in which Drs. Bendapudi and Kraft find themselves today. That's not to say that the incumbents aren't capable of making the holes larger, but I'd like to hope not.
 

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Likely worse; at least Penn State has some interest in improving facilities and life in general for athletes. Notre Dame - for better or worse - does not give special treatment to athletes. They are not segregated from the general population and do not have basket-weaving majors for them to hide behind. There are certainly some kids who are excellent athletes and students and who do not mind this kind of treatment, but the evolution of NIL will eventually kill ND if they don't start to play ball.
And forget the portal...what portal kid is going to want to go to ND without getting paid...
 
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Nah, Shrewsberry was going anyway, or he has his head up his a$$ for not doing due-diligence on ND's NIL capability.
Not your best.

Going anyway? So that’s why he 1. Brought up the lack of NIL, 2. Worked to address the issue and, 3. Participated upon a conference call?

Krafts lack of work and attention to the issues hadd nothing to do with it?

OK

BTW, how soon do you think ND will address their NIL shortcomings? Faster than PSU? Well, Of course they will do that, it’s a low bar to cross.
 
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Just keep in mind that Indiana Fats and Ms. Excellence created the situations in which Drs. Bendapudi and Kraft find themselves today. That's not to say that the incumbents aren't capable of making the holes larger, but I'd like to hope not.
How many years do you give Kraft? He only took office 7/1/22.
 

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Nah, Shrewsberry was going anyway, or he has his head up his a$$ for not doing due-diligence on ND's NIL capability.

I agree I think he was going no matter what, he is an Indiana guy and I believe it has always been his dream to coach at ND and it was offered to him. Yes he most likely will be in a similar dilemma at ND as he was at PSU regarding NIL.
 

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Not your best.

Going anyway? So that’s why he 1. Brought up the lack of NIL, 2. Worked to address the issue and, 3. Participated upon a conference call?

Krafts lack of work and attention to the issues hadd nothing to do with it?

OK

BTW, how soon do you think ND will address their NIL shortcomings? Faster than PSU? Well, Of course they will do that, it’s a low bar to cross.
First step in ND addressing NIL is for Father Joyce and AD Swarbrick to come to the conclusion that it's not the Antichrist. Then they'll have to replace the organization that's running it for their basketball programs with one that's not using it to subsidize Rutgers NIL. PSU is already way ahead.
 

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I think I'll take the information provided by the organization itself on launch rather than something written by a reporter almost a year laterthat was likely not cross checked.
You can't possibly be this dumb in real life - cross checked, SMH
Why do I have to say the same thing over and over? This is not difficult. Disagree on social media, but do it respectfully. Mauti represented us all poorly.
That's false equivalence Bob. The notion of "us" doesn't really apply anymore. Is us supposed to be Nittany Nation? That's just just some marketing ********. The day where any of these people represent more than themselves are gone. Gotta catch up bud
 

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You can't possibly be this dumb in real life - cross checked, SMH
You can read Nate Bauer's article:

PSU Basketball NIL Post-mortem

Section captioned "Penn State NIL needs and timeline", last paragraph, butthead.

That's false equivalence Bob. The notion of "us" doesn't really apply anymore. Is us supposed to be Nittany Nation? That's just just some marketing ********. The day where any of these people represent more than themselves are gone. Gotta catch up bud
 

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At this point, they're not going to have to worry about NIL but more so if they have enough players to put together a team.

 

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PSU is already way ahead.
Sarcasm?
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Way ahead?

PSU has no coach, not enuf players left to field a team, documented chaos in NIL administration/management, and part of their NCAA NIL $ pledges lost since they were tied to keeping Coach Shrew. PSU is a dumpster fire, having burnt thru the goodwill from the NCAA appearance. ND? Filled with the hope a new coach who was successful brings to a program.

Time will tell though, which of us is correct.
 

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Sarcasm?
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Way ahead?

PSU has no coach, not enuf players left to field a team, documented chaos in NIL administration/management, and part of their NCAA NIL $ pledges lost since they were tied to keeping Coach Shrew. PSU is a dumpster fire, having burnt thru the goodwill from the NCAA appearance. ND? Filled with the hope a new coach who was successful brings to a program.

Time will tell though, which of us is correct.
You may have missed this thread.

Thread 'FC: Notre Dame President and AD pen Op Ed in NYT begging Congress (anyone) to fix college athletics…' https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/...ress-anyone-to-fix-college-athletics….917373/
 

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You may have missed this thread.

Thread 'FC: Notre Dame President and AD pen Op Ed in NYT begging Congress (anyone) to fix college athletics…' https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/fc-notre-dame-president-and-ad-pen-op-ed-in-nyt-begging-congress-anyone-to-fix-college-athletics….917373/
I saw it.

I don’t think many D1 programs are any different than ND regarding their stance on players as employees. They all would like Congress to step in and save them from the horror to come. I don’t think that will happen.

Thing is ND will adapt and do whatever they have to do to compete. If not, they are no longer the imaginary indispensable “college” power, and they lose their subway alumni. It’s that “alumni” that makes them special and pays the bills that keeps them an upper echelon academic institution. They built Notre Dame, or paid for it.
 

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I saw it.

I don’t think many D1 programs are any different than ND regarding their stance on players as employees. They all would like Congress to step in and save them from the horror to come. I don’t think that will happen.

Thing is ND will adapt and do whatever they have to do to compete. If not, they are no longer the imaginary indispensable “college” power, and they lose their subway alumni. It’s that “alumni” that makes them special and pays the bills that keeps them an upper echelon academic institution. They built Notre Dame, or paid for it.
 

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Sarcasm?
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Way ahead?

PSU has no coach, not enuf players left to field a team, documented chaos in NIL administration/management, and part of their NCAA NIL $ pledges lost since they were tied to keeping Coach Shrew. PSU is a dumpster fire, having burnt thru the goodwill from the NCAA appearance. ND? Filled with the hope a new coach who was successful brings to a program.

Time will tell though, which of us is correct.

so we need a basketball BOB to come in.
 

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so we need a basketball BOB to come in.
No.

You need a commitment and honesty. What you have now have are lies and waffling support.

Coach Shrew knew that. Any Coach worth his salt will know that.

Being able to hire and retain good coaches begins with a competent AD backed by the administration commitment to compete, whatever it takes. I seriously question that Penn State has that.

What do I want? I would settle for honesty and a clear direction for the program. If that means there will be no commitment to pay coaches a market salary seen at the likes of Illinois, Nebraska, Pitt, etc., a limited policy on NIL, and few resources spent on basketball facilities and marketing, I am ok with that. I’ll adjust my expectations. Just don’t lie and expect me to buy the bs.

I also understand that will mean you hire guys who will be gone when they manage to somehow achieve success, or hiring guys willing to ride out their coaching careers and picking up a paycheck with no burden from high expectations.
 

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No.

You need a commitment and honesty. What you have now have are lies and waffling support.

Coach Shrew knew that. Any Coach worth his salt will know that.

Being able to hire and retain good coaches begins with a competent AD backed by the administration commitment to compete, whatever it takes. I seriously question that Penn State has that.

What do I want? I would settle for honesty and a clear direction for the program. If that means there will be no commitment to pay coaches a market salary seen at the likes of Illinois, Nebraska, Pitt, etc., a limited policy on NIL, and few resources spent on basketball facilities and marketing, I am ok with that. I’ll adjust my expectations. Just don’t lie and expect me to buy the bs.

I also understand that will mean you hire guys who will be gone when they manage to somehow achieve success, or hiring guys willing to ride out their coaching careers and picking up a paycheck with no burden from high expectations.
Rumors flying Rhoads from VCU has been offered the PSU job
 

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What is this all about?
A complete disorganized mess. As an alum and fan, I'm just seeing this for what it is. The thing is, why start confusing possible donors by posting about future revenue sharing when your NIL house is a 💩 show. There needs to be one voice for all of this and all the other want to be chiefs need to STFU. My opinion.
 

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A complete disorganized mess. As an alum and fan, I'm just seeing this for what it is. The thing is, why start confusing possible donors by posting about future revenue sharing when your NIL house is a 💩 show. There needs to be one voice for all of this and all the other want to be chiefs need to STFU. My opinion.
If nobody donated and instead the president, AD and various Head Coaches spent a few minutes each day screaming to the media and if the did it collectively in a conference, a small portion of the broadcasting revenue would be used to accomplish this.

But alas, it will take years of watching timid folks flail while Texas A and M just rolls in the money bank.

No bold moves anywhere in the Big 10. Just compliance and yes sir, may I have another.

The Future could be now. not happening but….
 

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A complete disorganized mess. As an alum and fan, I'm just seeing this for what it is. The thing is, why start confusing possible donors by posting about future revenue sharing when your NIL house is a 💩 show. There needs to be one voice for all of this and all the other want to be chiefs need to STFU. My opinion.
If we're talking about paying players (beyond NIL) then Jay is full of :poop:. Revenue from media rights will be insufficient. Think that and gate, and naming right, and, yes, contributions from alumni and whoever else. Man is a fu@king numbskull.
 

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If we're talking about paying players (beyond NIL) then Jay is full of :poop:. Revenue from media rights will be insufficient. Think that and gate, and naming right, and, yes, contributions from alumni and whoever else. Man is a fu@king numbskull.
Even though this is all evolving by the second, and I'd like to think everyone has best intentions, especially those directly those involved with the University and former players, there has to be a single voice and message.
 
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Even though this is all evolving by the second, and I'd like to think everyone has best intentions, especially those directly those involved with the University and former players, there has to be a single voice and message.
My sense is that Director Kraft doesn't have NIL fixed yet. He has work to do. Hope that Kerry Small can be a major asset.
 

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Fair, Fair, Fair......we were all curious about the gals, occassionally us young guys needed a little "DIRECTION"
Maybe not in your hometown, but in mine, they were a great help in leading the young guys in the proper direction.
“Toss one 19 year old Hispanic prostitute off of a bridge and they never let you forget it.”

I am going to confession now.

 
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Why do I have to say the same thing over and over? This is not difficult. Disagree on social media, but do it respectfully. Mauti represented us all poorly.
Awesome Let Them Fight GIF by Legendary Entertainment
 

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I saw it.

I don’t think many D1 programs are any different than ND regarding their stance on players as employees. They all would like Congress to step in and save them from the horror to come. I don’t think that will happen.

Thing is ND will adapt and do whatever they have to do to compete. If not, they are no longer the imaginary indispensable “college” power, and they lose their subway alumni. It’s that “alumni” that makes them special and pays the bills that keeps them an upper echelon academic institution. They built Notre Dame, or paid for it.
Well, they haven’t adapted to date in either football or basketball, so how are you so certain they will adapt going forward? Heck, you just had the President and AD of ND publish an op-Ed in the New York Times denouncing — no, adamantly denouncing — where college sports is today with regard to NIL. That’s like the equivalent of the Jerry Maguire “we should have less clients” memo. I’m not so confident in ND’s ability to adapt quickly to anything which is happening in college athletics today. You may be right, but from what I’ve seen, the signs aren’t there.
 
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First step in ND addressing NIL is for Father Joyce and AD Swarbrick to come to the conclusion that it's not the Antichrist. Then they'll have to replace the organization that's running it for their basketball programs with one that's not using it to subsidize Rutgers NIL. PSU is already way ahead.
Don't understand. "To subsidize Rutgers"
 

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So now the narrative is that Shrewsberry left because of NIL? What happened to the idea that ND was his dream job?
It’s probably both, but the narrative has always been that NIL was a clusterfuck at PSU and Shrews let them know early on and nothing changed until it was too late.
 
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So now the narrative is that Shrewsberry left because of NIL? What happened to the idea that ND was his dream job?
NIL issues were always part of the reason we lost Shrewsbury. I was reading about these issues even before March Madness. The $$$ simply is not there and PSU is falling behind most other schools. It doesn't surprise me at all. Ever since NIL was implemented I knew this would be an issue in Happy Valley. Anytime something needs done, be it to raise money or upgrade facilities we just seem to be dysfunctional.
 
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