You do realize that we had to also get up by 21 too? That means we did some good things and obviously have the potential to be a good team.
Funny, if we manage to beat Ole Miss, all you clowns will suddenly STFU.
Honestly, why is there such toxic negativity about our football season?
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Funny, if we manage to beat Ole Miss, all you clowns will suddenly STFU.
There's a wisdom that comes with age.
At least there is for folks who don't let their inner idiot dominate.
Simple, MSU is NOT competitive with the teams that are ranked AT ALL. In the past, MSU would be in a battle with them with a chance to win until the end. This current team has no chance against elite defenses AT ALL.
In addition, see last two um games and bowl games results. Weak.
In addition, see last two um games and bowl games results. Weak.
Nah, old guys get bitter with age. They feel like they're in their spot in the world and they're too old to give a ****. We've got a lot of "don't give a ****" in our fan base.
Yeah, and a guy that smoked lived until he was 104. Guess I should start smoking. Seems like Liberty was ranked too. Hum, they fall outside the 20%? Liberty has a good team and I know they lost last week so don't come back with that weak response.
It's a shame the final score and not stats is what counts, you know, perspective?
LSU is ranked about #6 right now and won the West over the perennial "best team in the nation".
We led them 16-10 heading into the 4th Quarter. I'm gonna call that competing, even if they did dominate that last quarter.
Maybe you should. A&M lost to App St, AU lost to Penn St. Even the division champs lost to FSU. Down year in the west. Worst since Saban arrived.
Well, at least you don't stereotype people based on age.
I'd be happy to take a poll here as to who is more bitter, me or you.
UGa too, right? Those teams don't even try to win, yet do over MSU now based on talent level.
My hate is strong because I get to go to one game a year, usually the UK game since I live 700 miles away from Starkville. The one game where I bought multiple tickets for friends to share the MSU love...and what happens, Leach's team sh|ts the bed. Again.
Yeah... Like I said earlier. Walk up to Sharpe. Johnson, and Marks and tell them exactly how they suck and caused you misery because they got injured. Maybe tell them you want you money back???
This really doesn’t get brought up enough. A big part of eventually getting over the proverbial hump to reach 10+ wins in this conference is having a head coach that is both willing to do what it takes to get there himself while also inspiring those around him to do the same. There isn’t a thing that Leach says or demonstrates to make me think that he possesses this quality
Did you just become a State fan last year???? In the past we would be in a battle with ranked teams until the end? Look at Dan Mullen’s games against ranked teams. We got blown out quite a bit. Even in 2017, probably our second best season under Mullen, we lost back to back games to Georgia and Auburn by scores of 31-3 and 49-10. We lost to Alabama by scores of 51-3, 38-7, 31-6 and 30-10. Lost to LSU by scores of 29-7, 37-17 and 59-26. We got beat down by OM just about anytime they were ranked. This romanticizing of our past like we were some really good program and Leach has torn it down really ticks me off. Mullen had plenty of crappy games against ranked teams and unranked teams, but some here forget about those and act like we just started sucking this year.
Eh, it is what it is. The older crowd gets set in their ways. It's not like I'm 20 either. But I'm a change things kind of person. Im not simply content with my "place in this world". Especially after damn near dying a couple years ago.
This is stupidity. Mullen's teams were largely inept against good defense. Even in 2014, Alabama and Ole Miss stymied our ***. In 2017 Georgia and Auburn did the same. I'm sure you'll bring up Alabama, who did win the natty, but were without like ALL of their linebacking 2-deep that day. 2010 and 2015 also got punched in the face by elite defense.
The only 'past' you could be talking about was King Jackie's tenure that ended 19 years ago after the most embarrassing 3 year period in our modern history. Hardly relevant to today's game.
Again, if you Leach-haters would just be factual, we could talk.
Leach preaches to his team not to get too up or down for what happened on one play. The reason he does this is to make sure they are consistently doing what they are taught in practice and run the next play. He demonstates that behavior on the field coaching. How can he preach that and then jump around on the sidelines like a deranged ape???
Yeah... and that wasn't Leach yelling at them on the sideline. LOL! It wasn't him folding chairs!
That's what you do with players that don't pay attention to the game. It has nothing to do with sticking with his philosophy of what goes on in the game.
Exactly what I’ve been trying to say. Dudes really have rose colored glasses when it comes to Mullen. He averaged a losing conference record and got blew the 17 out on the regular by elite teams. This Mike Leach team is easily on par with most of the teams that Mullen produced in Starkville. Ole Miss sucked butt half the time Mullen was here too so he had some easy wins over Johnny Reb.
Mullen sec record first five years 3-5,4-4,2-6,4-4,3-5
Mullen in the egg bowl when ole miss had 8 wins 0-2
Mullen in the egg bowl when ole miss had 5 or more wins 3-4
Leach will win 9-10 games next year. He’s doing better than Mullen.
most of the posters that have an ax to grind with Leach are either loser podcasters, local media types or ole miss trolls.
Life is about to change dramatically for the detractors.
Mullen in the egg bowl when ole miss had 8 wins 0-2
Mullen in the egg bowl when ole miss had 5 or more wins 3-4
Leach will win 9-10 games next year. He’s doing better than Mullen.
most of the posters that have an ax to grind with Leach are either loser podcasters, local media types or ole miss trolls.
Life is about to change dramatically for the detractors.
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It was Auburn. They have no coach. We were at home. They suck. I'm supposed to praise us for getting up 21 and blowing it? Good Lord.
And yes, "potential to be a good team" is right. So when will it pay off if not when all of these guys are veterans? Like this year. You just admitted with that phrase that we AREN'T a good team.
And yes, if Leach manages to beat Ole Miss it will stop a lot of my complaints. But not just bc it's Ole Miss....
Because he would finally beat his rival, which he has shown zero ability to do in 10+ years
Because he would manage to show up for a road game in this conference, which he hasn't shown.
Because he would manage to compete with a team that is above .500 this year.
All things he hasn't done, so it would make me very happy.
But let's face it, we aren't beating Ole Miss. Because we aren't improving, and we aren't progressing.
You might as well find something else to waste energy on. TaintQueef and the rest of that crowd have convinced themselves that they are fighting the good fight and that the Cigar Boys are discussing their opinions over single malts and Cubans every night while reading and re-reading every post they make about our Coach in hopes their phones will ring next Friday to decide who is going to be the successor to Leach.
They are ready to lead us out of the wilderness where our team will win 9-11 games each year just because we by damn demand it. No matter our level talent, coach, schedule, or act of God we will by god
You cannot change their minds... negotiate any middle ground... just stand back and watch them change coaches every couple of years until they get what they want and win the coaching and program lottery.
Let's just stand back and watch them lead the way. I know I am from now on.
They are living in a fantasy world on the internet
they are less than insignificant
This team is about where I though they’d be. I’m disappointed because I feel like there’s no fire in the coaches or the players. If they can’t sleepwalk through a game, they have no chance.
All of these criticisms are subjective nonsense like “poor body language” “doesn’t pass the eye test” “they don’t have fire”
because they can’t counter the facts : 3 of four losses have been to #1 Georgia and top ten teams Alabama and LSU on the road. Historically this program is not going to do any better than 7-4 with This schedule and most years worse.
our offensive production against Georgia was the second best of any team they have played this year and it was 17-12 at half. We did much better against LSU on the road than ole miss (sos #55) who were blown out 45-3 after the first quarter.
because they can’t counter the facts : 3 of four losses have been to #1 Georgia and top ten teams Alabama and LSU on the road. Historically this program is not going to do any better than 7-4 with This schedule and most years worse.
our offensive production against Georgia was the second best of any team they have played this year and it was 17-12 at half. We did much better against LSU on the road than ole miss (sos #55) who were blown out 45-3 after the first quarter.
So far I've seen that I should be happy with getting up 21 points over a **** team, even if we blew said lead....
that I should be happy "losing by less than Ole Miss did to LSU"....
that I should be happy that we did better offensively against Georgia than most others, even though we lost by 20+.
oh yeah, and "our history" and "Mullen" keep getting brought up...as if that means we shouldn't expect more. Did y'all think 13 straight bowls was possible when Croom was our coach?? Then why is it criminal of us to think we can do better than no wins versus teams above .500, and double digit losses in every single loss? Just because somebody comes from a poor family, doesn't mean they should also have to be poor.
Want facts? Every coach we have had since Sherrill has won at least 8 games in a season here. Maybe we aren't the ones being unrealistic...maybe you guys are just devaluing how good our program is capable of being.
so what Coach in our history beats that #1 Georgia team we played and top ten Alabama and LSU teams on the road ?
I’ll hang up and listen
you want a bcs playoff caliber team in Leachs second full season after Covid. Do you think that’s realistic for any coach ?
I’ll hang up and listen
you want a bcs playoff caliber team in Leachs second full season after Covid. Do you think that’s realistic for any coach ?
HAHAHA!!! So Leach will not win 8 here? Can you tell me who will win the the National title while you look in the crystal ball?
Walk up to Kylin Hill and tell him how you aren’t surprised the Packers cut him.
Because we have always been a perennially top 10 program*******
***top 10 on the sec
We want more but we aren’t crapping a brick because it may not happen this year. Mullen is the measuring stick because he’s the last coach who flirted with greatness here and virtually nobody was dead set that he needed to be fired. Remember that firing Leach is the underlying premise here and that’s a ridiculous notion on it face at this point in his MSU tenure. Make no mistake though, if Leach drops the next three and Will Rigers gets knocked out by Tyrus Wheat during bowl practice Leach would be gone. He’s not untouchable, but it’s comical to think the program has not made progress on par with teams we have deemed acceptable before.
What’s funny is, if you look at next years much more reasonable schedule, leach will win 8 in his sleep.
then the braying jackasses will start screeching why didn’t we win the sec west and blah blah blah
same people who don’t give a nickel to NIL
Who said Leach wouldn't win 8? 8 has become something every coach can do here now. That was my point. Part of yours and Grover's problem is that you can't read and comprehend.
I said I want us to take the next step. The next step doesn't mean beating #1 Georgia, or Top 10 Bama. But it could mean competing with them. Not losing by 25+ every time we play them. Not losing every road game in the league. Not losing to a bad UK team. Not blowing a 21 point lead to a coachless team on our home field.
You guys act like we're expecting a SEC Title. We aren't...or I'm not anyway...I'm just wanting to take a step up from where we are now, where we don't have to automatically concede any chance at beating a good team, or even competing with them. I don't feel like that's asking too much. But it's something that a one dimensional approach, with no adjustments, no enthusiasm, and no creativity will likely not be able to change.
Oh, and Grover is the most obvious troll ever by the way. I couldn't care less, just letting those of you that are agreeing with him know, you're being played.
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