And where do you think the profits from those publicly held companies go?
Hope we dump Under Armour when contract up. Learned they sponsor so-called Trophy hunting. I can`t think of anything more despicable.
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And where do you think the profits from those publicly held companies go?
I'd bet a lot ofe people complaining about greedy big oil don't realize they have some energy stocks in some form.
I can think for myself, and do. I find people who support a politician blindly (whatever the party), or a religious leader blindly (whatever the faith) without thinking for themselves disturbing.
I find hunting a necessary evil as a result of humans encroaching upon "undeveloped" land. Other than food and subsistence, I see no need to kill animals, especially the wanton killing of same.
All the publicity I've ever read about TR talks about his joy on big game hunts. And yes, his setting aside land in the country to be undisturbed is outstanding.
Why do I care? Why do you ask me this? This thread, and bringing up TR made me curious. Won't change my opinion in any case.
I am replying about current "financial struggles" to say that they are often contrived. And that is really all. But I would remind you that not all corporations are public, and plenty of them paused dividends during 2020.
We all know those people "on a fixed income" (aka fat pension) who won't pay for stuff. Many people and corporations like to benefit from appearing to be in a tough position.
You really can't think of ANYTHING more despicable than trophy hunting?
Over 100 oil and gas companies went bankrupt in 2020
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bu...-oil-and-gas-companies-filed-for-15884538.php
I’m not here to nor care to change your position. I found it interesting you stated you wanted to know about specifically. That’s what makes the world go round. You abhor hunting, and I can go out there and help conserve nature and it’s beauty by taking 5 deer a year and being happy about it. We can go fish and have a great time legally and feel wonderful about it. USA is awesome isn’t it? I love my country!
Thanks. I assume, then, that you don't know much about TR's feelings toward hunting. The only thing it might change is my opinion of him.
If hunting endangered lions or rhinos, then yes. If hunting overpopulated deer, then you are wrong. In Texas, both wild hogs and deer run wild. Their natural predators, mountain lions, wolves, bobcats, etc are either greatly diminished or nonexistent. Their herds need thinning. Letting them starve from overpopulation is cruel.
Bet there's fewer predators where you live too. It's because of you and where you choose to live.
I know a little bit I’ve never written a dissertation about the man and his whims
Cities started the incursion. And they tend to grow so more incursion.
Well, you seem to value the life of a deer way more than you do that of a bovine. What's the difference?
Cows provide sustenance...deer do not in most cases. Most hunters that I know hunt for the joy they supposedly get out of it.
That's why I qualified my original statement by saying "unless you need to do it to survive".
Deer provide sustenance as well. I eat a good bit of venison and it is a heck of a lot healthier than any meat you'd buy at the grocery store. I probably have 50 lbs. in my freezer right now. I personally do not hunt deer but I have a buddy of mine that will harvest a few young does for me each year.
If you eat what's killed for sustenance then I don't see a major problem.
Like I said, it's the dick bags who do it for the pure enjoyment of killing that I have a problem with. Douche nozzles who think it makes them a man to kill another living thing can eat a bag of dicks.
Coyotes seem to get a lot of nutrition from them. Coyotes are something to hunt just for sport. Most states encourage it and some don't even require a license to hunt them. Feral hogs are the best of both sport and food. They're invasive and provide a low fat protein source.
This whole discussion reminds me of bass fishermen who look down their noses at anyone who would eat (Gasp!) one of their precious fish. It's not even good management to never harvest any. It' leads to overpopulation and stunted growth. I have fished places where the bass's stomachs were concaved due to the lack of forage. It's very difficult for a bass to grow to its potential in such a place. For the record, I hardly ever keep a bass anymore. Just too lazy to clean them anymore.
Thanks. I do get a kick out of some of my buddies that don the camo, paint their face, and go sit in a deer condo and shoot deer with high powered rifles over bait they put out the day before. To me, that’s as sporting as shooting cows in a pasture.
Humans are certainly at fault there, but it isn't human hunters at fault. Humans turning all the land into cities, towns, farms, ranches, factories, etc is incompatible with most predators lifestyles. A few, raccoons, coyotes, possums, have figured out how to co-exist with human habitation. It just doesn't work for wolves and large feline predators.
i dont hunt but do you even have a clue what happens when, lets say deer, dont get hunted? they will die a far worse death dont be a *&^%
You’ve made yourself clear about your take on UA and reasons why. Not going to debate you that. My question is say that I’m agreeing with you, who do we sign a new contract with?
It’s certainly not Nike, sorry in my book slave labor is worse than trophy hunting. Adidas has been in hot water for grossly underpaid international labor several times. Which again I find not so great.
So I’m sorta with ya, but what next?
I know I will be in the minority here but I have no interest in shooting a coyote, unless it was attacking my dog or cats. Coyotes remind me way too much of my own white german shepherd and I just dont have the heart to kill one. I understand the reasons people do - the biggest being in SC, they take about 60% of the newborn fawns, but they are a predator. That is what predators do. Now call me a hypocrite, but I will shoot a hog every chance I get, partly because there is a part of hog hunting that is very much dangerous, as they will tear you up if they get a chance, and admittedly, I just dont see a hog in the same light as I do a coyote or a wolf or a mountain lion. However, even with a hog, it should be quick. I dont want to see any animal suffer needlessly.
I used to really enjoy it and I still love to eat venison and will take friends' offers of free meat all day but unless it is a real trophy buck, I wont be shooting many more deer. I honestly get more enjoyment now out of sitting in a stand, enjoying the peace and quiet of the woods and watching the deer come and go. I cant tell you how many I let walk last deer season. Now I will say that to me, there seems to be much more of a sport when it comes to bow hunting. The problem I have with it though is that so many bow hunters will shoot immediately, never thinking about the likelihood of them being successful in the hunt. Consequence of that is a lot of deer that suffer from an arrow for days before dying somewhere out in the woods. I have thought about getting into bow hunting but at this point, I dont think my bow shooting skills are at the level they need to be in order to quickly dispatch the animal and not cause days of suffering.
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