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Corny? We are talking Nebraska right?
Also what's in a name. Coach Love? You can't make this stuff up.
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Hey, it's Paul Silvis, where ya been man?
yep, through no fault of his own. Now talk about all of the good he did for college football and decades of young men who were better hainv played for Joe's team (in a time when no other major programs gave a rat's *** about education).
And YOU don't know everything about co-workers, do you? What if one of them beats his/her spouse? Abuses an elderly parent? Is, in fact, a child abuser? Do you deserve the same disdain you are dishing out? Or are you exempted because your co-worker has abusing his parent for "only" 15 years?
Looking forward to your mental gymnastics that somehow keep you on your moral high horse.
It is crazy to think that an individual is responsible for the behaviors of the people he/she works with. Anyone who worked with OJ, Weinstein, Bill Cosby, R Kelly and Michael Jackson would all have to be banished. Sorry Merril Streep and Tarentino, OUT!
You are angry because you are losing. There will be no statue or field named in his honor.
All of this means nothing. I am sure Joe himself would trade anything he did to help our university, for the rapes not to happen. But they did.
It's hard to express just how obtuse this post is.
But anyway, to ignore the hijacking of this thread, how about the weird shiz in the Nebraska women's hoops program??
I have a hard time believing that the other coaches were oblivious to what was happening. If the players all knew, surely the coaches did too.
You might want to go talk to some of them. And you might want to do some research into all of the innovations Joe brought to the game both on and off the field. You might get an appreciation for him aside from an emotional outburst that somehow we are all supposed to be able to read each other's minds to see if they are trouble makers.
Do we think this was all the coach? He does have power and influence over the players. Players are on scholarship(maybe) and the pressure put on them as D1 Athletes is tremendous. The fear of losing your scholly and having to take out loans or whatever means to pay for your education is overwhelming to someone just starting out in adulthood. On the other hand, what is the player was a flirt and actually seduced the coach(although the story reads the other way around). What 20-23 year old woman wants to have relations with some old dude? Unless there was money involved of course(Anna Nicole Smith).
Doesn’t matter. If a student or player gets too flirty, you simply don’t close your office door when you’re with them. It’s not too hard to put a little effort into establishing boundaries. First step: don’t text.
Bill Russell: A man’s most prized possession is his good name.
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The statue, in fact almost the entire body of work, were done way before anyone accused anyone of anything.
I am not sure what you are getting at. With all of the people that worked with JS, you were expecting Paterno to put on an overcoat, drive a crappy car and do an investigation? Why not the second mile? Don't you think they should have been taking notes and keeping a journal on what kids JS was hanging out with?
Love the Columbo reference.
Spoken like a man/woman who didn’t actually read the Freeh Report, Thornburgh, Clemente & Berlin, Malcolm Gladwell’s review, followed the court case, knew the the backgrounds of Freeh, Lanny Davis or George Mitchell. Understood scapegoating of Paterno, Curley, Spanier and Moschenbacher. Read the previous case where Sandusky was exonerated by police. A giant storm faced the university and Erickson threw money at it. There is a treatise from a believe from a Yale author/ professor how not to handle a crisis. Penn State is on the cover. By the way, similar crises occurred at Michigan State, Michigan& Ohio State and didn’t gain the national headlines. I really don’t think Jay and Scott moved on but didn’t want to harm Penn State from the firestorm of disinformation and stupidity. By the way why wasn’t The Second Mile included in the suits? Why wasn’t the boy in the shower deposed? What was the level of discovery in those who received money? Why did the testimony of Mike McQueary change on what he saw? You need to read all the evidence .from the timeline.
The man had a child rapist on his staff for 30 years. Period.
So if you ever work a job for the next 50 years and someone you worked with is ever convicted of a crime then we can blame you because you should have known. Then we can vilify you and negate all the work that you have done in your life.
Got it!!
No. That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is if you happen to be the superior of a staff of 20 people, and one of those people is a child rapist, and for 30 years was either planning to rape or actually raping children, anyone associated with this person is precluded from idolatry type honors. I blame Joe only for not being perhaps a bit more aware. That's all. He did not in any way deserve the vitriol that came his way during that horrible time in our university's hsitory. But, because he had a child rapist on staff, yes, I am sorry. No statue or field naming honors.
So we should condemn the police and child services who investigated and let him adopt kids. They found nothing. A superior knows more than they do? Ok. We all knew Jerry growing up there and none of us knew.
You realize how naive and uneducated this sounds. Talk to any health care professionals that counsel victims or families as well as investigators as to how and why these predators can hide in plain sight. Jerry was married for 50 years and his wife is still in denial. Your feaux outrage while cute and all is just plain stupid to be honest. I don't care about the statue or any of that other BS, but to say the reason is he didn't know when Jerry's own wife didn't know is just idiotic. This notion that Joe had to know or Jerry's crimes were his fault was media driven feaux outrage because Joe was well thought of. Jerry is the monster and his crimes destroyed countless victims lives as well as folks at PSU who were just there doing their jobs. So tone down the fake silliness....it's played out now a decade plus later....f jerry is the proper response to any of this....F Jerry.
Naive and uneducated? Here's an idea, Build a statue of him and put it on your front lawn. You wouldn't have the guts.
NOT KNOWING DOESN'T MATTER!! Its a shame. I get it. But to respect the children that were raped, and their families, he doesn't get a statue or the field. Anyone associated with this horror can be included. That's it.
Repeat the uneducated part again out loud...then read my post again....particularly this part...."I don't care about the statue or any of that other BS". You missed the point of my post completely and went back to your feaux outrage lines. You clearly don't understand what grooming is and how it works, but you're feaux outrage makes you feel good I guess.....carry on.
First of all, I love Brian Regan. Now, here is what it comes down to. The criteria in a right thinking society for adulation and honor. I, along with many, feel that even though not directly responsible for the horror, the horror will always be associated with said individual. Because of this simple association, he is denied said adulation. Except for folks like you. God bless.Repeat the uneducated part again out loud...then read my post again....particularly this part...."I don't care about the statue or any of that other BS". You missed the point of my post completely and went back to your feaux outrage lines. You clearly don't understand what grooming is and how it works, but you're feaux outrage makes you feel good I guess.....carry on.
Again....I don't care about the statue or him getting honored. That is for his fanatics, not him. He didn't ask for it, nor need it which is kind of funny that his so called biggest fans still think it's required. You seemed to think he was hiding something or was the reason Jerry did this for so long which is GD stupid and why you got called out for it. Your feaux outrage to start this thread is dialed back so at least there is some hope that you can figure out it wasn't Joe's crimes....but the hysteria around him that took more than him down. May one of the 3000 Gods in existence bless you too.
Ok. So again by your standard, then you are responsible for anyone you know or work with that commits a crime for the rest of your life. Good luck.
Yes, if you are the boss, you actually are responsible for them. But, all I am saying is he will not be getting a statue back, or the field named after him, Unfair or not, he will be associated with these circumstances forever and this will preclude either from ever happening.
Vilifying and negating is one thing. Not a fan of either in this case. Building a statue and naming a field in the sport in which this horror was built is something else.
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