I saw where Dawn decided to interject herself into Iowa's game the other night

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Dawn took to twitter to criticize the officials in Iowa's game earlier this week. I guess she doesn't have enough to do coaching our team and has decided to become the one woman watchdog for all of college women's basketball.
It’s a weight to carry the woman’s banner. Takes a woman of prominent
stature really not seen in this area since Summitt.
 
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Who is her partner?
Nobody said that she was a racist! Just saying that she brings up race unprovoked and just to talk about it and for no reason! Again I love Dawn Staley and watch every one of her games I’m just not sure why she has to play the race card for no reason!!
 
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Consistency is important.
Calling out an official is one thing, but skin color should have no bearing on the legitimacy of the criticism as stated in post 3 in this thread.

 

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Nobody said that she was a racist! Just saying that she brings up race unprovoked and just to talk about it and for no reason! Again I love Dawn Staley and watch every one of her games I’m just not sure why she has to play the race card for no reason!!
Want to check the thread again??
 

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Nobody said anything about her being racist!! Pay attention they just said that she brings up race often unprovoked and for no reason!! And the statement that I just typed isn’t racist but fact!! So quit adding your liberal slant!!
lol. Look at the post I replied to big guy.
 

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Agree, Dawn is an outstanding coach, but it is the attempt to be ''bigger than the sport'' which is something she should save for when she runs for political office.
I agree I’m sure the liberals that are calling us old white men disagree but hey I’m sure that those are the same idiots that voted for the worse president in American History! Yeah you guessed it Jo “Corn Pop” Biden!!!
 
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I don't have a link. I'm not starting an argument. I just remember him saying to take down the flag. Is that inaccurate?
Had you expressed it that way to begin with, my response might have been somewhat different. That position could be inferred from the clip that I cited but the quotation in the clip was made under specific circumstances.

What he said was, "We don't need that confederate flag". He addressed it because the subject was obviously raised during a news conference. The remark was in the wake of a specific prior incident in which some "dude" was waving it in the background during a College Gameday telecast. He did not use the word "damn". His remark was not in that vein, which would have conveyed an intensity concerning the flag that he did not display. He was mainly aggravated.

He was embarrassed by the demonstration and I don't blame him. I think most people wouldn't blame him. Moreover, I don't think that, given the circumstances and the specific statement, most people would have blamed a coach of a different color, either. The scenario to which he was referring was not a good look.
 
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Ok yeah I read it. I don’t think she’s racist I just think she leads with the race card unnecessarily
I understand that. I'll just make one last comment on the subject. I'm not a liberal. Not a snowflake. However I have seen things over the last several years that opened my eyes and really disappointed me from a society standpoint. I have seen Hispanics and black people change their first names to get call backs in my industry. We even had some that wanted to change their first and last names so people wouldn't ignore them. We were having trouble in a particular territory that a black woman repped. We shifted territories around. All we did was send direct mailers with generic company info and replaced the contact info with a white man's picture and name, and immediately started getting traction. No, there are not crazed groups of white supremacists roaming the streets looking for black and brown people to lynch and murder. But we do have a problem where black and brown people get marginalized. So I can understand how seeing the world through that lens might cause you to make comments that seem like "playing the race card".

And no, I don't run a call center. lol
 
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Had you expressed it that way to begin with, my response might have been somewhat different. That position could be inferred from the clip that I cited but the quotation in the clip was made under specific circumstances.

What he said was, "We don't need that confederate flag". He addressed it because the subject was obviously raised during a news conference. The remark was in the wake of a specific prior incident in which some "dude" was waving it in the background during a College Gameday telecast. He did not use the word "damn". His remark was not in that vein, which would have conveyed an intensity concerning the flag that he did not display. He was mainly aggravated.

He was embarrassed by the demonstration and I don't blame him. I think most people wouldn't blame him. Moreover, I don't think that, given the circumstances and the specific statement, most people would have blamed a coach of a different color, either. The scenario to which he was referring was not a good look.
Actually, in the attachment you posted, he used the word "damn" twice when referring to the Confederate flag. I don't think Dawn would have gotten the same benign reaction.
 

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I understand that. I'll just make one last comment on the subject. I'm not a liberal. Not a snowflake. However I have seen things over the last several years that opened my eyes and really disappointed me from a society standpoint. I have seen Hispanics and black people change their first names to get call backs in my industry. We even had some that wanted to change their first and last names so people wouldn't ignore them. We were having trouble in a particular territory that a black woman repped. We shifted territories around. All we did was send direct mailers with generic company info and replaced the contact info with a white man's picture and name, and immediately started getting traction. No, there are not crazed groups of white supremacists roaming the streets looking for black and brown people to lynch and murder. But we do have a problem where black and brown people get marginalized. So I can understand how seeing the world through that lens might cause you to make comments that seem like "playing the race card".

And no, I don't run a call center. lol
My only comment is that I have seen salesmen of all genders, colors and persuasions, many of whom I thought would never make it, turn out to be stellar salespeople and they all had one thing in common - the ability to sell themselves first. If a salesman can't sell himself to a buyer first, I don't care what the product is, the sale may happen on a rare occasion but not with consistency. Some salesmen rub people the wrong way with their personality, approach, character traits, etc. which have nothing to do with race, gender or persuasion. I've seen a change in salesperson work in both directions. Change salesperson and sales go up because that person did not click with the customer base or change salesperson and sales go down because that person had sold the customer base on him as a person and the buyers wanted the company to know they made a mistake by removing them from the territory. All that to say be cautious in making judgement when analyzing a change such as the one you mentioned.
 

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My only comment is that I have seen salesmen of all genders, colors and persuasions, many of whom I thought would never make it, turn out to be stellar salespeople and they all had one thing in common - the ability to sell themselves first. If a salesman can't sell himself to a buyer first, I don't care what the product is, the sale may happen on a rare occasion but not with consistency. Some salesmen rub people the wrong way with their personality, approach, character traits, etc. which have nothing to do with race, gender or persuasion. I've seen a change in salesperson work in both directions. Change salesperson and sales go up because that person did not click with the customer base or change salesperson and sales go down because that person had sold the customer base on him as a person and the buyers wanted the company to know they made a mistake by removing them from the territory. All that to say be cautious in making judgement when analyzing a change such as the one you mentioned.
Oh, I agree with all of that. And just illustrates the point that people have different POVs based on their experiences. We did run another test on a new market. Just ran direct mailer campaigns. No other effort, no personal interaction. It ended the same way, sadly. Sure, there are other market factors you have to consider. And different industries will act differently. It was just a little surprising to me.
 
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Actually, in the attachment you posted, he used the word "damn" twice when referring to the Confederate flag. I don't think Dawn would have gotten the same benign reaction.
I see the word "damn" in the quotation; I don't hear it in the video of the same encounter. And under the same circumstances, I say she would not come under condemnation, especially given the particular catalyst and the supporting statements by other people connected with USC: Tanner, Frank Martin, Pastides, Connor Shaw. I would also say that, without that support, given the polarizing nature of the Confederate flag issue, Spurrier, a decidedly white person, might likely have come under heavy fire for the views he expressed.
 
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For a National Championship coach of ours to be this type of ligtning rod with our fans after 15 years is sad. The lady is entitled to her opinion on any matter that she sees fit. If you think that is racist okay, fine. She is a 53 year old woman and she ain't changing becomes some guys have a different opinion. Heck, I see a lot of borderline racist things on this board. I may tell you about it sometimes. However, it's not to change you. I know, probably at this point, that is impossible. It is for others to see what you did and make up their own minds whether that is acceptable or not. The truth is most people of different ethnicities don't understand each other, and either have very little interest in understanding or just putting them in the other category and writing them off. Most people don't like to do hard work and getting to know someone different than you can be hard. It's easier to just call them a racist so you can keep feeling right.
 
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Dawn took to twitter to criticize the officials in Iowa's game earlier this week. I guess she doesn't have enough to do coaching our team and has decided to become the one woman watchdog for all of college women's basketball.
Thank sweet baby Jesus for Dawn Staley South Carolina actually has one nationally relevant sports program.