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SILVERSPUR-rier said:
In the case of a murder, all insurance policies are frozen until the beneficiary is cleared. Sometimes, even if they are found "not guilty", the insurance coverage can be denied because the burden of proof in a civil case is less than a criminal case. So, as Alex testified, if anything, Maggie's death hindered his ability to get money quickly as she was not alive to sign any necessary loan documents.
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Right...I believe he made a call to his buddy at Palmetto State Bank for quick money. Either way, he's going to have to pay someone back for that since that's now been brought out. I think without the snapchat video this is a clear not guilty b/c there would be no way to invalidate his alibi. He might have been cleared pretty quickly, and this case never brought. One way or another, his firm was on to him and he knew he was going to have to come up with millions to pay it back to stay clean. He might already have the settlement if not for the snapchat video.

EDIT: My theory of an insurance scheme was disproven b/c his carrier dropped him after the housekeeper claim.
 
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Because its simple math/physics, therefore you need an engineer. You know the "end" point (where the bullet was found) and the trajectory (based upon holes in the wall, etc.) and you connect the dots and extrapolate that point out. There was nothing to "reconstruct". What would the firearm/shotgun expert testify to? The witness used SLED's own evidence/data and simply applied the science. The glaring question is why didn't SLED do that. They had all of the data since 8/21 (or so). The defense had to file motions to get the prosecution to turn the data over, which finally occurred in 10/22. My guess is SLED did the math and most likely gave a "verbal" report to the DA. The DA didn't like the answer as it didn't fit their narrative, so it was understood SLED was not to complete/write the report. Once a "report" (or anything) is in writing, it is subject to Brady and MUST be turned over. Since they had the data, they had to turn over the data. But, since there was no "report" making a conclusion about the data, there was no report to turn over. The SLED data showed that the gun angle could not have come from someone 6'4". I can assure you that if the SLED data showed it was consistent with someone 6'4" the DA would have absolutely presented that evidence as part of their case in chief. The fact that the DA CHOSE not to reveals a lot about the case. My $0.02.
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OK, so here we have an actual firearms/forensics expert just crushing the engineers testimony. And he's much more believable b/c he knows firearms and nuance around how firearms are operated and how they fire. I don't know how you could ever believe a mechanical engineer of this guy. The other guy just comes across as knowing angles and math. This guy can do the same, but also tell you about how firearms work and how they fire.
 
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Jim is terrible. Also, if you throw an iphone the display is not going to cut on. That's a simple experiment for anyone to do.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Saw this article that, even if he beats the murder rap, he faces up to 740 years in jail only for the financial crimes he's already admitted to.

Obviously, most of those would run concurrently, but, one way or another, he's going away for probably the rest of his life, or close to it.

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Even If Alex Murdaugh Beats This Murder Rap, He Faces 700+ Years In Jail For Financial Crimes - Above the Law

They put Al Capone away for less.
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Yes. But serving time for doing rich white guy white collar crimes is much different than doing time for murder. Also, in the grand scheme of white collar crimes, he didn't do "that much". He'd likely get a nice minimum security setup with a lot more freedom than someone who murdered his wife and son. That's why he's fighting it in my opinion. He knows he's dying in prison. But that experience can vary greatly.
 
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DaboSits2PeePee said:
Yes. But serving time for doing rich white guy white collar crimes is much different than doing time for murder. Also, in the grand scheme of white collar crimes, he didn't do "that much". He'd likely get a nice minimum security setup with a lot more freedom than someone who murdered his wife and son. That's why he's fighting it in my opinion. He knows he's dying in prison. But that experience can vary greatly.
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All true.
 
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DaboSits2PeePee said:
Yes. But serving time for doing rich white guy white collar crimes is much different than doing time for murder. Also, in the grand scheme of white collar crimes, he didn't do "that much". He'd likely get a nice minimum security setup with a lot more freedom than someone who murdered his wife and son. That's why he's fighting it in my opinion. He knows he's dying in prison. But that experience can vary greatly.
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I bet he hangs himself.
 
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18IsTheMan said:
Saw this article that, even if he beats the murder rap, he faces up to 740 years in jail only for the financial crimes he's already admitted to.

Obviously, most of those would run concurrently, but, one way or another, he's going away for probably the rest of his life, or close to it.

abovethelaw.com

Even If Alex Murdaugh Beats This Murder Rap, He Faces 700+ Years In Jail For Financial Crimes - Above the Law

They put Al Capone away for less.
abovethelaw.com abovethelaw.com
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According to the article, the longest is a 20 year sentence while some others carry 10 years. If he is found not guilty of the murder charges, he will cop a plea where they run concurrently. With good behavior, plus credit for time served, he could be out well before he is 70 for the financial crimes.

The guy that stole billions probably won't even serve that much time...

My impression is that a fair amount of the money he stole was paid back, either by robbing peter to pay paul, or by getting loans from the bank, or paid by the law firm, etc.
 
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Just think about this: An unknown juror was replaced by an alternate juror in the case this morning for talking about the case to others. What she said was that she didn't think he was guilty. It got back to those handling this case and is an absolute no-no by law. Other than this, I don't think the state has a slam-dunk case by a long shot. He will not be guilty of 1st degree murder, if even murder at all.
 
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Just think about this: An unknown juror was replaced by an alternate juror in the case this morning for talking about the case to others. What she said was that she didn't think he was guilty. It got back to those handling this case and is an absolute no-no by law. Other than this, I don't think the state has a slam-dunk case by a long shot. He will not be guilty of 1st degree murder, if even murder at all.
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Sc does not differentiate between murder. Murder is murder.
 
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Yw and It was. Refreshing to see justice alive and well somewhere these days. Proud it was in SC!
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Yes it was. Justice was also done in Brunswick, Georgia last year when 3 white men were convicted for chasing and murdering a black jogger. 2 of them got life in prison without the possibility of parole. The 3rd got life in prison with the possibility of parole but, only after first serving 30 years in prison. Murdaugh will get the same treatment, and should.
 
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Yes it was. Justice was also done in Brunswick, Georgia last year when 3 white men were convicted for chasing and murdering a black jogger. 2 of them got life in prison without the possibility of parole. The 3rd got life in prison with the possibility of parole but, only after first serving 30 years in prison. Murdaugh will get the same treatment, and should.
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Notice how only the racists bring up race.....???? (every time)

What does race have to do with it? And of course the answer is *NOTHING* ...... <smh>
 
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Tngamecock said:
Good analysis. The timeline to me is and could be way wider than 15 minutes. All these witnesses are guessing at times on days where they didn’t know something horrendous was going to happen. Most can remember only approximate times on things like that. Think if you can tell exactly what time you ate lunch yesterday or what time exactly the doctor came into your room even though your appointment was at 1:00 (don’t include the ones where you waited forever and got pissed😬).

If his cell signal was awol during that period and the helper’s 15 minutes at his moms instead of 45 is correct…he’s guilty. For whatever reason this man was deeply in debt…and people desperate do strange things
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Can Erik Kimrey throw the fade?

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