from the Washington Commanders and the fine imposed. Punish people whose opinions you don't agree with and make a statement filled with false information (lies). It's now the "American" way.
Jack Del Rio, how ridiculous is the statement
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As an employer that is in a very public arena, you certainly can dictate what your employees are allowed to discuss with the press, and I'm very confident
that is written somewhere in his contract.
When I was in the corporate world, we had very implicit instructions that should we ever be contacted by the press to speak on a corporate matters, we were instructed not to comment and to direct any and all inquires to the PR department.. Failure to do so would bring consequences.
that is written somewhere in his contract.
When I was in the corporate world, we had very implicit instructions that should we ever be contacted by the press to speak on a corporate matters, we were instructed not to comment and to direct any and all inquires to the PR department.. Failure to do so would bring consequences.
I think he was expressing a personal opinion and not speaking on behalf of the organization.
Again, it all depends what is written and approved in his contract. Since the organization is based in Washington it could very well be that he is asked to refrain from political discourse.
I'm not even pretending to know what contract stipulations he has, but since the organization is coming down in a hard way, it seems reasonable to suspect such language may have existed.
You may be right. I think employment contracts should be very limited in terms of restrictions on individual rights not expressed on behalf of the employer. But that is a lawyer question for Del Rio's attorneys.
That's BS and you know it. These woke organization only ask employees to refrain from common sense conservative political discourse. Progressive woke discourse is encouraged in this sensorship communist culture the democrats have created.
Ron Rivera refraining from political discourse
If you are not in the company's PR department and are hell bent on speaking out, best to do so anonymously and don't mention that you are an employee.
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Actually I don't know it, and neither do you.
So if Coach Beamer says I think Clemson is the best school in the state he should not have any repercussions? (This was intended to respond to those who said it's a personal opinion only and shouldn't be punished -- not Harvards post)
I'm sure every company in America's HR department would like to send an email to all their employees that just says: "Please STFU. Please."
I’m glad it seems like he was never in danger of losing his job - I think a fine is a great way to send a message without ending someone's livelihood for a tone-deaf remark. But employees need to realize (especially those with a certain level of fame), that they will be considered to be speaking on behalf of any company they work for when they make their remarks visible to the world (via whatever social media avenue they prefer). And companies like to set their own PR and marketing strategies - they do not like their employees to set it for them.
I think that's what a lot of people don't understand - most of the time it's not bowing to the crowd, it's just straight business. Many think it's just "wokeness" when really it isn't always about what the person said, but that they said anything at all. Companies spend so much time and money to create a brand and outward persona, they don't need someone in their organization killing that with a tweet.
I’m glad it seems like he was never in danger of losing his job - I think a fine is a great way to send a message without ending someone's livelihood for a tone-deaf remark. But employees need to realize (especially those with a certain level of fame), that they will be considered to be speaking on behalf of any company they work for when they make their remarks visible to the world (via whatever social media avenue they prefer). And companies like to set their own PR and marketing strategies - they do not like their employees to set it for them.
I think that's what a lot of people don't understand - most of the time it's not bowing to the crowd, it's just straight business. Many think it's just "wokeness" when really it isn't always about what the person said, but that they said anything at all. Companies spend so much time and money to create a brand and outward persona, they don't need someone in their organization killing that with a tweet.
It's really baffling that so many can not figure this out. It really is that simple.
Seems to only go one way. When’s the last time Kerr or LaBron was fined for speaking out?
Did you read the link? If Ron Rivera can throw a presser to support a self identified Marxist organization, I think it is safe to say the organization formally known as the Redskins doesn’t have a policy for employees to refrain from leftists political discourse. Pretty obvious.
I think this is the point for most people. It's not the policy, that's easy to understand. It's that the policy seems to only be enforced selectively.
No, its all about what was said - not that he spoke at all. Read the statement from Washington Commanders - they made it clear!
“[Del Rio’s] comments do not reflect the organization’s views and are extremely hurtful to our great community here in the DMV,” Rivera said in the statement. “As we saw last night in the hearings, what happened on the Capitol on January 6, 2021 was an act of domestic terrorism.
“He does have the right to voice his opinion as a citizen of the United States and it most certainly is his constitutional right to do so. However, words have consequences and his words hurt a lot of people in our community. I want to make it clear that our organization will not tolerate any equivalency between those who demanded justice in the wake of George Floyd’s murder and the actions of those on January 6 who sought to topple our government.”
But it's based on the organization isn't it? Kerr and LeBron aren't necessarily "on brand" for the NBA, but their specifically not "off brand." Do their comments really catch NBA fans' attention? Not really. They can talk - and it dissipates into the stratosphere almost overnight.
If they both worked for (or were spokespeople for) My Pillow, do you think they'd skate by?
There's a nuance to the world. And I feel like everyone who doesn't get that also doesn't get how to navigate internet "information." You have to take into account a totality of the circumstances, not just say: "but this, but that."
Perfect. Then that goes to my first comment - he shouldn't be speaking when his comments will be considered coming from his employer.
And you didn't quote the whole thing. The statement also said (undoubtedly with Coach Del Rio's consent): Coach Del Rio did apologize for his comments on Wednesday and he understands the distinction between the events of that dark day and peaceful protests..."
Again, a fine for speaking on behalf of his employer (whether he realized he was doing it or not) was justified. Now everyone can move on.
And BTW, no link has been provided. Just sayin.
There certainly is a link. You missed it sharp guy.
And BTW, no link has been provided. Just sayin.
Yea, he apologized - with his arm twisted behind his back. Haven't seen any uproar or fine for Ron Rivera for speaking on behalf of the organization. It's the opinion that matters - not the speaking.
Rivera: 'It doesn't get said enough, so I'll say it again: Black Lives do matter'
Rivera opened up his press conference on Wednesday with a statement about the murder of George Floyd, and his intention to fight for justice for all going forward.
commanderswire.usatoday.com
Why would it be safe to say this? Apparently, Rivera's presser was pre-approved and supported by the Washington administration. Whereas obviously Del Rio's comments were NOT. Again, you take away far more than is implied here - that Washington's brass have policies structured around political left OR right ideologies, and not simply have policies structured around what they wish their organization's branding to represent, either way. You spin too hard here, Mr. Spinster.......
There is now a double standard for almost everything in this once great country of ours that is declining fast because of the incompetent administration in charge. Kavanaugh almost get killed. Biden says nothing. Pelosi says they are all safe. It’s against the law to protest outside of the justices’ homes yet the DOJ does nothing. They encourage illegal immigrants and fentanyl coming into the county. Yet they preach about our democracy. They are the ones making it less and less of one and more like China every day. These people need to all go as soon as they can be voted out.
Rivera's statement is not branding - it's pure politics. Unless it is stupid branding meant to intentionally separate you from half your potential audience/customers in the country.
And you didn't quote the whole thing. The statement also said (undoubtedly with Coach Del Rio's consent): Coach Del Rio did apologize for his comments on Wednesday and he understands the distinction between the events of that dark day and peaceful protests..."
I still have to laugh whenever I see those riots described as "peaceful protests". Then I get a little more somber when I realize some people believe it.
It ranks up there with people who try to claim one riot was "trying to topple the country".
I still have to laugh whenever I see those riots described as "peaceful protests". Then I get a little more somber when I realize some people believe it.
It ranks up there with people who try to claim one riot was "trying to topple the country".
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I don't think he spins at all. The companies policies are structured around how they wish their organizations branding to represent, AND it just so happens to be based on a left ideology.
They're not mutually exclusive.
FBI lies to Congress, falsifies info to get FISA warrants, creates more false documents to cover up false request for FISA warrant when their own agents ask for documentation with no consequences and then turn around and arrest others for lying to Congress. Then, FBI arrests Michigan Gov. Whitmer's opponent in upcoming election for attending Jan. 6th rally to purposely impact the election. As Rush used to say - "you can't make this stuff up" - real life trumps (oops! wrong word) beats fiction every time.
Some of y'all won't even admit that many in our Congress and Pence could have been killed on January 6. In a coup.
But you want a special speech from Biden about Kavanaugh being threatened? OK.
Why does it matter what he thinks about January 6?
The riot was violent, but I don't think (my opinion) it would have raised to that level.
But I would think acknowledging the fact that an assassination attempt was made on a Supreme Court justice is really the least Biden should do.
Agreed. This is one of those where ten times the people know about the comment because of the effort to punish it. How many people would have noticed if everyone just yawned and moved on.
me also. i never would have heard about it. i can't imagine he had all that many followers on twitter.
and, as it relates to his job, i don't see what difference it makes.
There's always been a double standard for everything. Always. This is nothing new. The new part is that the double standards aren't so one-sided anymore.
But back to the point at hand - businesses represent themselves publicly in a very measured way. And how they do it is based on what is best for their business in any given time. Rivera's comments came with the blessing of the team, Del Rio's didn't. I do think Del Rio's comments were fairly innocuous, but as one of the faces of the business, he needs to toe the company line with his public comments.
It's also very much a false equivalency tying together the BLM protests and Jan 6. Yes, both involved riots, but that's where the similarities end. But that's another thread.
Rioters are committing a Jan. 6th event every night outside Supreme Court justices houses with specific laws prohibiting it and nothing is done. Where is the congressional action/hearings? Blocked by Pelosi of course. By the way, the only person murdered on Jan. 6th was a military veteran protester by Capitol Police. Our justice system is no longer an equal justice system.
Really? I thought they were becoming more one sided. Perhaps it's a matter of the double standard agreeing with one's personal views that makes it seem more or less one sided.
True, the blm riots actually killed people.
This obviously never occured...absolutely no coverage from ABC, NBC, or CBS to confirm this planned attack.
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