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GrimReaper

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Rhule for one

His guaranteed money is 74 million over 8 years. Look, I don't really give a ****. If James stays, he'll get a bump after this year. His agent isn't gonna let him slide below #12. If he leaves, PSU can't afford to bring in a no name hopeful to replace him. So they'll pay between 6.5 and 8 M A year. If it's your fantasy to find a discounted coaching staff i understand.
The $9.25mm is the average of Rhule's contract over its eight year term. It his heavily backloaded because apparently he, his agent, and the folks at kNU thought they could minimize the impact of the offset language in his contract with Carolina. Unfortunately for them they chose the wrong dog with whom to pick a fight.
 

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But I think he's got that team moving in the right direction. Having Raiola for another 2-3 years is big.
I don't disagree. But the question under discussion is whether there is a coach who gets fired from his old gig and immediately is paid top dollar by a new employer. Rhule's contract at kNU doesn't quite make it. That's not to say that he doesn't have tremendous success and get a revised contract that puts him at or near the top, but he wasn't there out of the box.
 

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The $9.25mm is the average of Rhule's contract over its eight year term. It his heavily backloaded because apparently he, his agent, and the folks at kNU thought they could minimize the impact of the offset language in his contract with Carolina. Unfortunately for them they chose the wrong dog with whom to pick a fight.
He gets all the money regardless though, right?
 
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I saw three things yesterday postgame that have totally affected my view of James Franklin. First, was the win. Second was when he broke off his postgame interview to give the kicker a sincere embrace with private words. The third was Drew Allar's post game interview where he sung his praise and loyalty to his coach. That was enough for me. I'm now all in with CJF.
You forgot when he went to midfield to capture the flag....
 

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Tyseer Denmark when he sees coach coming.

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He gets all the money regardless though, right?
What money? Carolina isn't paying him. If Nebraska fires him, he gets 90% of his base. Right now he makes somewhat more than half of what Riley does and a mil and a quarter less than Franklin.
 

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Typical negative nabob. Every time the team loses itā€™s because Franklin ā€œdoesnā€™t have it on the sidelinesā€. I challenged this board to tell me what strategic decision Franklin made which cost them the Michigan game two years ago (the one where a Michigan TE took a simple crossing pattern 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage for the determine TD late in the game) and never received a response. My favorite was the reporter who said Franklinā€™s decision to punt on 4th and short after being down 7-0 early in the MSU game a few years ago in the snow ā€œledā€ to MSU then driving 99 1/2 yards to make it 14-0 after the punt was downed on the 1/2 yard line. Like all coaches, Franklin makes strategic mistakes but sometimes things donā€™t work out due to lack of execution or because someone on the other team made a good play.
The decision from yesterday that I keep coming back to is kicking the game tying FG with the ball on the 1.

I get it. But at the same time, do we really not go for the lead in that situation, and if we donā€™t convert, USC is working out of their end zone? Hmmmā€¦

I didnā€™t like that call at the time, and even with the W, Iā€™m still not sure I like it.
 

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We all want PSU and CJF to excel.....skeptics, advocates, and everyone in between

I would have punted on 4th and 7 and I would not have played for a field goal in OT with an inexperienced kicker

But both decisions worked out great

I am HAPPY about this. I am glad CJF's decisions turned out well

Some of you guys act like the skeptics don't want PSU and CJF to win....it's ridiculous
I think they had to go for the 4th and 7. Properly recognized as a do-or-die drive. The FG kick at the 1 was the one where I was like, ā€œReally? We canā€™t dial up anything to grind out 1 yard for the lead?ā€
 

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Saturday's win was nice, but if I had to compare it to one other individual game, it would be 2016 Minnesota (also an OT game).

  • A game Franklin HAD to win or else he might seriously start feeling his seat get hot.
  • A game where it wasn't looking particularly good for in the 1st half (Minnesota led 13-3 at the half), PSU had a barn-burner of a 3rd quarter, than it was nip-and-tuck the entire 4th.
  • A game that has the POTENTIAL to be a springboard to build the team's confidence and get them on a roll.
  • A game where the PSU QB had their best yardage performance to date, and also had a key, clutch 4th quarter drive with a couple memorable big plays.
  • A game that was scheduled THREE WEEKS BEFORE a home game vs Ohio State.

Will history repeat, as regards the Buckeyes and a potential B1G title? We'll know more in 3 weeks.
 
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Saturday's win was nice, but if I had to compare it to one other individual game, it would be 2016 Minnesota (also an OT game).

  • A game Franklin HAD to win or else he might seriously start feeling his seat get hot.
  • A game where it wasn't looking particularly good for in the 1st half (Minnesota led 13-3 at the half), PSU had a barn-burner of a 3rd quarter, than it was nip-and-tuck the entire 4th.
  • A game that has the POTENTIAL to be a springboard to build the team's confidence and get them on a roll.
  • A game where the PSU QB had their best yardage performance to date, and also had a key, clutch 4th quarter drive with a couple memorable big plays.
  • A game that was scheduled THREE WEEKS BEFORE a home game vs Ohio State.

Will history repeat, as regards the Buckeyes and a potential B1G title? We'll know more in 3 weeks.

Franklin went from being booed in the 1st half of that game to being heralded after we won the B1G Championship in Indy.
 
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I think it's more important to pay the going rate for elite talent. I think a $5 million coach would do better with 5* talent than a $10 million coach would do with 4* talent.
So you like Narduzzi? That's the model available in that price range. In my opinion, all things being equal, in today's college game you get what you pay for. For example how long does a winning 5M coach stay around, when he's offered 8 elsewhere?
Also, would PSU be in a better place if they could compete with NIL money? Imagine this team with 2 elite WRs to compliment Warren. Look, I'm an old timer....don't like the current landscape...but if you want to eat with the big boys, you need to ante up. I'm talking facilities, coaches salaries and NIL. I can't think of any field of endeavor where employees are motivated to show they can do a better job than their competitors for less compensation.
I'll agree working conditions can factor in, to a certain degree. That's why (according to N. Singleton's Dad) some don't leave for the highest bid. But you must "be in the ballpark. "
I think one reason PSU has kept its top talent from leaving is the excellent record this staff has for putting players in the NFL.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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Not sure why this team can't start fast (side note that OPI was a f-in joke so that plays a part), but I saw one area where CJF improved yesterday. He got aggressive near the end on those 4th downs. He still had some crap clock management and I don't like the way they are using Pribula right now. Yes it worked on the Warren play but ONLY because Warren is god and made an insane play. My issue with the Pribula plays are that Allar is (save that one insane catch) taken out of the play on almost all the others so you are playing 10 vs 11. Put them both in the backfield for f--ks sake. Then he goes with 09 on the first play of overtime? Why? If you are going to play for the FG just use Nicky and Kaytron.

So overall, one big step in the right direction, but still some stuff to sort out. Continue to seem to be bringing the sloppiness down which is also a good sign.
 
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So you like Narduzzi? That's the model available in that price range. In my opinion, all things being equal, in today's college game you get what you pay for. For example how long does a winning 5M coach stay around, when he's offered 8 elsewhere?
Also, would PSU be in a better place if they could compete with NIL money? Imagine this team with 2 elite WRs to compliment Warren. Look, I'm an old timer....don't like the current landscape...but if you want to eat with the big boys, you need to ante up. I'm talking facilities, coaches salaries and NIL. I can't think of any field of endeavor where employees are motivated to show they can do a better job than their competitors for less compensation.
I'll agree working conditions can factor in, to a certain degree. That's why (according to N. Singleton's Dad) some don't leave for the highest bid. But you must "be in the ballpark. "
I think one reason PSU has kept its top talent from leaving is the excellent record this staff has for putting players in the NFL.
Just my 2 cents.
I didn't argue against anything you said. I simply said that a lot of coaches know the Xs and Os. What makes a coach worth his money is his ability to attract top talent.
 

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I didn't argue against anything you said. I simply said that a lot of coaches know the Xs and Os. What makes a coach worth his money is his ability to attract top talent.
It wasn't my intent to express anything but my view on the current state of affairs in college football. If I had my druthers, Joe would still be the coach and PSU would be lining up in the "I." It certainly wasn't my intent to take a shot at you.
 
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So here is the plan:

2025 -Kotelnicki leaves to take a HC job
Lincoln Riley gets fired from USC. James Franklin hires Lincoln Riley as OC.
2026- Kalen DeBoer gets fired at Alabama and they hire James Franklin as HC. PSU promotes Lincoln Riley as HC at PSU.

It could happen
Sure as hell hope not and frankly donā€™t see it happening on either front.
 

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How would people have felt about Franklin if PSU would have lost yesterday? Especially when we won 1st downs 28-16 and total yards 518-409? It shouldn't have taken two no calls on PI or a bad pass by Moss at the end of regulation.

How will people feel about Franklin if we lose @ Wisconsin in 2 weeks?
Well the haters will come crawling out of the wood work like cock roaches. Predictable as the sun rising in the East.
 
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