Kiffin rumors are swirling re: Florida job...

[85Bears]

UF is in the group with Alabama, LSU, UGA, Texas, Oklahoma, Tenn, Auburn and A&M that will fire a coach for losing 3-4 games a year.
With a 9 game SEC schedule, that doesn't math.

All above schools think like you do " If we had a good coach we can will a natty, we lost 3-4 games, so the coach sucks. Fire him and get a better one"

That’s because all of those schools have the history, location and resources to win a NC. Florida is a good hire away from doing it.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

OK. I agreed he wanted to win one? But he's also won one.

Agree to disagree. If you think Florida is some great program right now then so be it. I dont and i dont think the history matters anymore. Game and playing field has changed.

Good coaches do last long. Bad/average ones dont. Kiffin has made himself into a good coach. He's learned lessons. He's now at a place he seems happy, he's at a place he can build and leave his own legacy. Not saying he wont ever walk away from it... but i dont think he walks away from it for Florida. Again he's not someone that is looking to prove he can win. He has won. He's not someone that is looking to get into those big programs.. .he's been there before. Walking on water at Ole Miss... is something i
dont think he'll give up for Florida.

One thing I've learned from decades of watching sports is you just never know what motivates a coach to change jobs. They will always surprise you.

I have no idea what motivates Kiffin. He was handed way too much way too early in his career, and failed. (Although he might have succeeded at UT if he had stayed more than 1 year) he went to Saban's rehab program and got another chance.

You say he has won already, but he hasn't as a head coach. He's had a couple of good seasons at UMiss, but I don't think that's enough to say he has proven he can win.

You say he has already been there as far as being at big programs, but he wasn't successful. I don't think coaches go to blue blood programs just for the experience; they go to those programs because they have the resources to build a championship team. And if you are truly successful you can build a dynasty. Why wouldn't he want another chance at that?

I don't know if Kiffin would take the UF job, and I'm not even sure UF is willing to make the financial commitment to get him.

I'm just saying the reasons you are giving for him staying at UMiss don't make sense. He probably wants a shot at a championship, and he won't get that in Oxford.

 

[pseudonym]

Here's a discussion in which two guys who cover Ole Miss seem to think their NIL momentum hinges on 2024 success.

 

[HuntDawg]

One thing I've learned from decades of watching sports is you just never know what motivates a coach to change jobs. They will always surprise you.

I have no idea what motivates Kiffin. He was handed way too much way too early in his career, and failed. (Although he might have succeeded at UT if he had stayed more than 1 year) he went to Saban's rehab program and got another chance.

You say he has won already, but he hasn't as a head coach. He's had a couple of good seasons at UMiss, but I don't think that's enough to say he has proven he can win.

You say he has already been there as far as being at big programs, but he wasn't successful. I don't think coaches go to blue blood programs just for the experience; they go to those programs because they have the resources to build a championship team. And if you are truly successful you can build a dynasty. Why wouldn't he want another chance at that?

I don't know if Kiffin would take the UF job, and I'm not even sure UF is willing to make the financial commitment to get him.

I'm just saying the reasons you are giving for him staying at UMiss don't make sense. He probably wants a shot at a championship, and he won't get that in Oxford.

And that’s where we disagree. I think he has just as good of a shot as winning a championship in Oxford as he does Florida. If you believe that, as I do, all the reasons make sense. This isn’t 20 years ago. Florida isn’t what it once was…. And unfortunately for us.. neither is ole miss

no Florida coach has made it more than 4-5 years since urban. Does kiffin have a better chance in the next 4 season to get into the playoffs in Florida or Oxford. The answer to that for me is very simple… Oxford… and you gotta get to the playoffs to win the championship…. Oh and if you don’t get there in the next 4 years in Florida it don’t matter because they’ve already shown 4 years without playoffs and your gone

Not to mention in Oxford have the chance to do something no one else has done. He walks on water in Oxford… he’ll never do that in Florida.

 

[SorryDog]

Best line in this thread is "Kiffin has grown up"
He's 49 and dating someone 22 years younger. Give me a break.

 

[patdog]

I think he has just as good of a shot as winning a championship in Oxford as he does Florida.

You have lost your damn mind if you truly believe that. Dan Mullen had 2 seasons there better than anything Mississippi has done since 1963.

 

[sandwolf.sixpack]

This is my thought. There will be a tipping point where he becomes undesirable. Because with a guy like kiffin, he comes with baggage and you have to decide whether the cost of the baggage is worth the potential.

What baggage?

 

[85Bears]

You have lost your damn mind if you truly believe that. Dan Mullen had 2 seasons there better than anything Mississippi has done since 1963.

Yea its not close. NIL era just widens the gap. billy is horrible. Jomo could win 6-7 games down there. Its like going 5-7 at Ohio State. You have to try to be that damm bad.

 

[HuntDawg]

You have lost your damn mind if you truly believe that. Dan Mullen had 2 seasons there better than anything Mississippi has done since 1963.

Has nothing to do with the past. Has everything to do with the now. Good to know we disagree.

ole miss football isn’t the same as it was in 1963 and Florida is a shell of what it was in 2006.

penn state won some national championships in the past, as did Nebraska…. College football landscape has changed

 

[85Bears]

What baggage?

Yea i dont think Lane has alot of baggag

Has nothing to do with the past. Has everything to do with the now. Good to know we disagree.

ole miss football isn’t the same as it was in 1963 and Florida is a shell of what it was in 2006.

penn state won some national championships in the past, as did Nebraska…. College football landscape has changed

Yea its changed all right and rich schools with large tv markets located in talent rich states have a big edge

 

[HuntDawg]

Yea its not close. NIL era just widens the gap. billy is horrible. Jomo could win 6-7 games down there. Its like going 5-7 at Ohio State. You have to try to be that damm bad.

Or nil has narrowed the gap. Mullen, muschamp, Mcelwain and Napier all have had seasons where they won those 5-6 games at Florida. It’s not the given it once was and hasn’t been for nearly 20 years… it’s not even in the realm of Ohio state.

 

[HuntDawg]

Yea i dont think Lane has alot of baggag

Yea its changed all right and rich schools with large tv markets located in talent rich states have a big edge

Didn’t realize that Tuscaloosa and Alabama were such richly talented football states with large tv markets…

guess Texas am should start raising banners right now since the gulf is so wide now

 

[85Bears]

Florida is just below the tier of

Didn’t realize that Tuscaloosa and Alabama were such richly talented football states with large tv markets…

guess Texas am should start raising banners right now since the gulf is so wide now

Give it time

 

[HuntDawg]

Florida is just below the tier of

Give it time

The edge goes to the schools that effectively know how to raise money, and use a NIL. Tv market don’t matter. Everyone is on TV and all the sec teams are getting that same cut

ole miss is ahead of most schools from an NIL standpoint. Way ahead of Florida. Can that change. Sure. Will it is anyone’s guess… but I don’t think that paradigm is going to change in the coming years

 

[GloryDawg]

If they want Kiffin they will get Kiffin. Ole Miss went all in for this season, and it probably will not work out for Ole Miss. The NIL gas tank is probably low. He will see the writing on the wall that in order to win a Natty he is going to have to be at a bigger school that has more recent history.

 

[85Bears]

The edge goes to the schools that effectively know how to raise money, and use a NIL. Tv market don’t matter. Everyone is on TV and all the sec teams are getting that same cut

ole miss is ahead of most schools from an NIL standpoint. Way ahead of Florida. Can that change. Sure. Will it is anyone’s guess… but I don’t think that paradigm is going to change in the coming years

TV markets dont matter and Ole Miss is way ahead of Florida with NIL. ? Two ridiculous statements. Not going to waste my time on this.

 

[HuntDawg]

TV markets dont matter and Ole Miss is way ahead of Florida with NIL. ? Two ridiculous statements. Not going to waste my time on this.

Don’t. We are just a short hope from the elite 8 in basketball right?

 

[RockyDog]

Don’t. We are just a short hope from the elite 8 in basketball right?

You are acting more like CuntDawg. Just stop