That’s because all of those schools have the history, location and resources to win a NC. Florida is a good hire away from doing it.
Kiffin rumors are swirling re: Florida job...
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One thing I've learned from decades of watching sports is you just never know what motivates a coach to change jobs. They will always surprise you.
I have no idea what motivates Kiffin. He was handed way too much way too early in his career, and failed. (Although he might have succeeded at UT if he had stayed more than 1 year) he went to Saban's rehab program and got another chance.
You say he has won already, but he hasn't as a head coach. He's had a couple of good seasons at UMiss, but I don't think that's enough to say he has proven he can win.
You say he has already been there as far as being at big programs, but he wasn't successful. I don't think coaches go to blue blood programs just for the experience; they go to those programs because they have the resources to build a championship team. And if you are truly successful you can build a dynasty. Why wouldn't he want another chance at that?
I don't know if Kiffin would take the UF job, and I'm not even sure UF is willing to make the financial commitment to get him.
I'm just saying the reasons you are giving for him staying at UMiss don't make sense. He probably wants a shot at a championship, and he won't get that in Oxford.
And that’s where we disagree. I think he has just as good of a shot as winning a championship in Oxford as he does Florida. If you believe that, as I do, all the reasons make sense. This isn’t 20 years ago. Florida isn’t what it once was…. And unfortunately for us.. neither is ole miss
no Florida coach has made it more than 4-5 years since urban. Does kiffin have a better chance in the next 4 season to get into the playoffs in Florida or Oxford. The answer to that for me is very simple… Oxford… and you gotta get to the playoffs to win the championship…. Oh and if you don’t get there in the next 4 years in Florida it don’t matter because they’ve already shown 4 years without playoffs and your gone
Not to mention in Oxford have the chance to do something no one else has done. He walks on water in Oxford… he’ll never do that in Florida.
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Best line in this thread is "Kiffin has grown up"
He's 49 and dating someone 22 years younger. Give me a break.
He's 49 and dating someone 22 years younger. Give me a break.
You have lost your damn mind if you truly believe that. Dan Mullen had 2 seasons there better than anything Mississippi has done since 1963.
Yea its not close. NIL era just widens the gap. billy is horrible. Jomo could win 6-7 games down there. Its like going 5-7 at Ohio State. You have to try to be that damm bad.
Has nothing to do with the past. Has everything to do with the now. Good to know we disagree.
ole miss football isn’t the same as it was in 1963 and Florida is a shell of what it was in 2006.
penn state won some national championships in the past, as did Nebraska…. College football landscape has changed
Yea i dont think Lane has alot of baggag
Yea its changed all right and rich schools with large tv markets located in talent rich states have a big edge
Or nil has narrowed the gap. Mullen, muschamp, Mcelwain and Napier all have had seasons where they won those 5-6 games at Florida. It’s not the given it once was and hasn’t been for nearly 20 years… it’s not even in the realm of Ohio state.
Didn’t realize that Tuscaloosa and Alabama were such richly talented football states with large tv markets…
guess Texas am should start raising banners right now since the gulf is so wide now
The edge goes to the schools that effectively know how to raise money, and use a NIL. Tv market don’t matter. Everyone is on TV and all the sec teams are getting that same cut
ole miss is ahead of most schools from an NIL standpoint. Way ahead of Florida. Can that change. Sure. Will it is anyone’s guess… but I don’t think that paradigm is going to change in the coming years
If they want Kiffin they will get Kiffin. Ole Miss went all in for this season, and it probably will not work out for Ole Miss. The NIL gas tank is probably low. He will see the writing on the wall that in order to win a Natty he is going to have to be at a bigger school that has more recent history.
TV markets dont matter and Ole Miss is way ahead of Florida with NIL. ? Two ridiculous statements. Not going to waste my time on this.
Don't be ridiculous. For all the Mississippi NIL hype and how far behind you claim Florida is, the fact is Florida is recruiting better than Mississippi and their overall roster talent is rated higher than Mississippi's is. All they need is the right coach and they could easily win 3 national titles in a decade. At Mississippi, the right coach might make a couple of quarterfinals in 5-6 years before moving on to a truly elite job.
3 national championships in a decade. For someone that throws history around like it’s current fact.… to say something that has never been done there and for a program that hasn’t been in the playoffs in 20 years to be able to do it and do it easily……
mind you only Alabama has done this in the past 25 years and only Nebraska miami and Alabama have been able to pull that feat off in the past 50……pass me a shot of what you are drinking please sir…… we sure are spouting off some crazy stuff to hope We haven’t forgotten Florida has been a nothing program for 20 years and im sure it’s all about coaching, nothing else
and oh those composite rankings don’t mean crap. They had Texas am at 4. And this year they have us in the 30s which is comical… all that is are those bogus recruiting rankings all totaled up. Watch how many people get drafted off the ole Miss roster and compare it to Florida….over the last 3 years Florida has had 10 people drafted, ole Miss 13... and that gap will widen this year….Think that matters more than some rating site
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Ok. 2 in a decade then. Point remains. At Mississippi, your ceiling is the quarterfinals. At Florida you can win a national title or two.
Clemsons ceiling was nothing until dabos run.
sure Nebraska never thought theyd be as irrelevant as they are. Sure those people up in Penn state think they can run off some national championships too if they got the right coach.
things change. It’s been 20 years.
its down right easy to see for the immediate future ole miss is the better situation… and there is nothing that says that is going to change…. Nebraska and Penn state amongst others have been hoping for that switch to flip back for 30-40 years now and it hasn’t
if the Florida job is all this board claims it to be. Then everyone outside of Ryan day, debout, Kirby, and sark should be lined up to take it…. Why havent they? 3 national champs in a decade, money, nil, recruiting….…. It could be because it’s not the situation it once was
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The facts about this situation is 100% money. That's all that matters. Was Jimbo sitting at FSU jacking off about being the coach at A&M ? No. Was Napier dreaming of coaching at Florida ?? No. Were they both dreaming about millions of guaranteed dollars and all that comes with it ?? Hell yes. Kiffin has it made where he is. Could he be convinced to leave ? Of course. Might regret it but if they back a Brinks truck up he is gone. Unless OM matches. Edited to add: I guarantee you Lane thinks he can win a natty at OM or Florida or FSU.
On the other hand, why are you so convinced the Mississippi job is better (or even as good)? This is their all-in year for NIL where all the stars were aligned for a breakout season. And right now, it looks like they’ll miss the playoffs. Will those donors continue to make those donations if they’re not seeing the results they’re paying for?
It’s just not this year. They’ve made a commitment to nil, and they’ve used it better than other programs have. Barring a total collapse, I don’t think ole Miss throws in the towel.
theyve been in the national picture for 3-4 seasons now….. the bigger question is why do people think it’s going to go away? Do people really not think people are getting their moneys worth in Oxford? The rich donors are going to say naaahhhh let’s go back to being 6-5 and losing egg bowls?
nil gave all programs a clean slate to be relelvant if they chose that route… ole Miss did… and there is nothing indicating it’ll just suddenly stop…. It’s just state fans wishing and hoping they do.
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