I can promise you the air raid is not growing in Mississippi. None of those schools are football powerhouse's that have top D1 recruits. Mississippi is a knock your dick in the dirt football state and you do that by running the ball. Yes they are passing more, but it's not an air raid passing philosophy.
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Must suck to be an APP state fan. You have good teams but you lose coaches almost every year
This will also show that will can adapt to a different offense if he wants to make himself more attractive to possible nfl free agency. His arm strength will still hurt him.
it will take some pressure off,
still I would try to get Howard to come and tell him it's wide open next season.
Oh wow....okay. Damn....I thought we were hiting their DC to be our OC. Now I feel a lot better. We are hiring the guy that racked up all those points against James Madison and Georgia Southern.14327307 said:
I'm not arguing that the air raid wasn't working. You are correct for the most part it worked, but I'm saying it's not going to work with Arnett recruiting Mississippi heavily.
Our best WR was from Alabama this year and California last year. For the most part, all our WR's from Mississippi are undersized. Maybe that's why Will can't see them running open.
Our great QB room has 1 Mississippi recruit and the rest were from Texas.
Johnson is the only one from Mississippi of the RB's.
Our highest rated recruits for this class in the skill positions are not from Mississippi.
This team didn't struggle offensively.
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You are missing the point. Air Raid is growing everywhere. We now have schools in MS running it. To compete with the bigs, we need to attract skill players. The air raid attracted the WRs and QBs. It doesn't matter how we try to lock down the state of Ms. Bama, LSU, UGA, and Ole Miss will get their share.
For Bama, that generally means who the hell ever they pick up the phone and offer. The one thing we had the ability to do is to attract those skill players at needed positions and take the knock you dick in the dirt players from here to have a team that wins 9. we were never going to worry about getting WRs or QBs.
All that needed to be done is a tweak to run more with added TEs.
Now we are changing systems and we will have to see what can be attracted to MSU at those skills. What WRs we can retain after spring. That's not saying that it will not work here and that we are going to fall off the face of planet.
There are a lot more players in our recruiting footprint that fit this style of offense. ms, la, tn, ga, fl, ar, and some tx. Those states are loaded with talent for running backs receiver that can run in space and catch. Athletes. Qbs at all these little schools that are outstanding athletes can be a h back or receiver in this offense because they can move and make people miss
This was the point.
Now we are moving to a system that will attract what? Where are we getting the QBs that say "Man damn.. I want to go run that new App st offense at MSU!"
How many 4 star WRs are going to say "I want some of that run heavy over a passing more offense where I know that as #2 on rotation I'm still going to get my touches" Because # 2 on the rotation will see his touches majorly decreased simply by the amount of attempts.
Again, we are going to see how it goes and he will have my support 100%, but this looks to be moving backwards at the moment.
At least for next season, I was hoping to either retain one of Leach's Off staff to serve as a one year buffer until we move to someone like this. The pass heavy teams from this season where we would have a chance at luring away their coordinators were Western Kentucky, Georgia Southern, Purdue, SMU, UTSA, MTSU, and Houston. I'm not sure who the playcallers from those teams were or if they have already moved on to bigger jobs, but if Arnett wanted a coordinator to fit his present roster, those would have been who I started interviewing. Obviously Arnett is gonna rip the band aid off and begin building the team he wants now instead of putting it off a year to win games. This might be painful to watch next season, but I do like moving to more balance, just wanted to hold off a season.
And 61 on North Carolina and 32 on Troy who won 12 games and finished ranked ahead of us.
Our offense didn't suck.
This is why you're hard to read on any subject.
Everything is extremes with you.
Well he is the guy now. Hopefully he can help find us some good tight ends and maybe a QB if he thinks he needs one. There is a QB from App State in the portal. Probly a reason he is in there tho
It absolutely did. It went backwards this year. Go look at how pathetic it was against AL every single year. You can look at the offensive stats your damn self. I don't spoon feed it all to you lazy hacks.
All I have to do is go back in recent history to prove the point TB. The QBs we had that transferred out were mainly running QBs that could not throw well. One transferred and then became a WR. We could not recruit WRs that helped the QB at all.
Before Leach, with a QB that completes passes at the rate of APP St and CMU, we had the 74th ranked offense. 2 years before Leach, 51% completion and 69th.
Not that HS translates to college, but Brandon ran a RPO offense in HS with Will.
And BTW.. Our recruiting footprint was doing well recruiting 4 stars to the offensive of skill positions.
All offenses have up and down years. Our offense may have not have been as good, but they won 9 games.
So we are going back to the same old same ole that hasn’t worked for 139 years. Just damn
This system will attract the Chris Parson of QB's. It's still a throwing system. It still runs 3 WR sets but also mixes in running sets with 2 WR's. The QB for App. St. almost threw for 3000 yards. You are right though it's not going to attract the Will's of the world. We don't need a statue at QB.
I disagree with the touches. Look at their touches now. We spread the ball around so much that our 2nd leading receiver averaged 38 yards a game and 4 catches a game. Even the amount of times we threw a game, guys were barely getting the ball. I mean our RB's had more catches than any receiver except Rufus. Now if you want to say our receivers ran more routes than what they are going to run then you would be correct.
It may be but it could also be more efficient, higher scoring and tougher to stop than the air raid.
It's like communism....it just hasn't been tried right lol
Will doesn't complete any long passes, at least not against good competition. Its all dink and dunk.
Brandon Ms High ran an RPO with Will Rogers and his dad Wyatt as OC ? I would have to disagree with you on that. Gardner did not run the RPO there either.
Yeah jomo had talent and looked good.
This guy doesn’t have the talent and his rankings look good.
He may suck
He may not
But anyone saying this is a bad hire is a fool.
Exactly. I think there were going to be changes in the offense even with Leach. The QB he recruited kind of pointed that way. There is no doubt that we were better on offense when we ran the ball a bit more.
No. In case you haven't noticed Leach was about the only one that still ran the pure Air Raid. It's as antiquated as the Wishbone. Almost every modern offense is heavily laced with Air Raid concepts, but football has moved on from the pure thing.
I'm not sure where you are drawing the line for suck, but it was not good. Very few years will we have the ability to win 8 with the offense we put out this year. Most years, we lose Auburn and probably Ole Miss with that type of production. Most years it hurts a lot more for our offense to not give us a chance against Kentucky.
There are some TE in the portal. One from Utah. Maybe if we get at least 2 he can get this thing rolling. It will be interesting to see who we pick up this weekend now that we have an OC
I wonder how those #'s would look with Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Kentucky, and Illinois defenses on the schedule?
The best teams they played were Troy and TAMU.
The 40 in the 4th Quarter vs UNC is extremely impressive. I hope he's a huge success, but let's not make him better than Mike Leach when I doubt you knew his name last week.
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We're pretty middle of the road in FBS offensive rankings unless I'm missing something and we played 5 games against some of the better defenses in the country in UGA, Bama, LSU, Kentucky and Illinois. I don't know how Kentucky finished, but when we played them they had held every previous opponent to their lowest point total of the season.
I call that not sucking. It's different from calling it great.
No it won't. Chris Parson is proof of that. He chose MSU and air raid over that.
You are twisting up stats. LOL. We are talking WRs. Half of those are going to have no touches to speak of at this point. You are seeing all of the USA WRs transferring out. We will not be an exception with this system. They are going to see it does exactly is being said every where. You will have you main 3 or 4 and then the back ups. Those 3 to 4 will remain on the field 75% of the time. App St had 3 WRs with 20 or more catches.
I'm not saying it's a bad hire, but it could certainly be said, quite legitimately, by not a fool.
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No idea of it's bad, but I'm certain I don't know if it's good either. That's why I asked the question.
I'm trying to understand why anyone here thinks this is immediately a good hire. How many knew this guy at all before today or this week?
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