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First - RME at your virtue signaling

Second, because it will help with recruiting.
Oh Dear Lord, you actually wanted to hire him because of his race. That's kinda sad. You should probably concentrate on why his coaching skills could help us win regardless of race.
 

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Oh Dear Lord, you actually wanted to hire him because of his race. That's kinda sad. You should probably concentrate on why his coaching skills could help us win regardless of race.
Dude, phuck off. I added one note about his race since it would be a likely advantage to recruiting and then have made a number of different posts (including videos) about his exciting offense and coaching style - so yeah, I did concentrate on that. Page back through the thread to see. I would be all for him regardless of race. You are really the only one that has made a big deal over race. Go back to the test board where you belong.
 

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You appear to be the only one who realizes that we have co-offensive coordinators.

I picture wasted timeouts and delay of game penalties because Allar is hearing different play calls from them at the same time.

Or does one call the odd downs and the other evens?
 

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BlackShoe had an interesting long-shot take. Joe Brady, is currently QBs coach at NFLs Buffalo Bills. He is a former PSU grad assistant under Franklin in '15 and '16. he then went off to become LSU's passing game coordinator and WR coach in 2019. Yes, the LSU Natty with both Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase. He then goes to Buffalo to become the QB coach with Josh Allen.

both Burrow and Allen are considered pocket passers. And Allen is the NFL QB most often compared to Allar in terms of skill sets.

I am not sure he's read to make the move to OC but he'd be great in our system at this time. And based on the mess Buffalo has been so far this season, and will probably NOT make the NFL playoffs, he may be an option.
Brady just got tabbed as OC. He’s off the table unless McDermott gets canned.
 
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I picture wasted timeouts and delay of game penalties because Allar is hearing different play calls from them at the same time.

Or does one call the odd downs and the other evens?
Yep. This reminds me of the proverb: One boy whole boy; Two boys half a boy; Three boys no boy at all. In this case, Franklin is the third boy.
 

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Dude, phuck off. I added one note about his race since it would be a likely advantage to recruiting and then have made a number of different posts (including videos) about his exciting offense and coaching style - so yeah, I did concentrate on that. Page back through the thread to see. I would be all for him regardless of race. You are really the only one that has made a big deal over race. Go back to the test board where you belong.
You started with the race card and then doubled down. Have some self-awareness.
 

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Of course he would. If it wasn't for Frankin, Moorhead would not be a millionaire and might be coaching at Fordham.
Thing is, more information is materialising about the firing. CJF is citing insubordination. My answer to that would be, you have a headset on, so you know what the call is at that moment. Isn’t it your job to step in and veto a play call? Franklin called for the two point conversions, which were not logical. School me here, if I am incorrect. I’m serious.
 

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Thing is, more information is materialising about the firing. CJF is citing insubordination. My answer to that would be, you have a headset on, so you know what the call is at that moment. Isn’t it your job to step in and veto a play call? Franklin called for the two point conversions, which were not logical. School me here, if I am incorrect. I’m serious.
CJF looked like he was giving the "hook-em horns" to me.


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Thing is, more information is materialising about the firing. CJF is citing insubordination. My answer to that would be, you have a headset on, so you know what the call is at that moment. Isn’t it your job to step in and veto a play call? Franklin called for the two point conversions, which were not logical. School me here, if I am incorrect. I’m serious.
Actually, CJF immediately puts up 1 finger when PSU Scores. Someone or something changed his mind. The real issue is it didn't work. I don't know why everyone has such an issue with it....is that what cost PSU the game?
 
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Thing is, more information is materialising about the firing. CJF is citing insubordination. My answer to that would be, you have a headset on, so you know what the call is at that moment. Isn’t it your job to step in and veto a play call? Franklin called for the two point conversions, which were not logical. School me here, if I am incorrect. I’m serious.
It would have been a brilliant move to step in and relieve MY of his play calling responsibility mid game. I'm sure that's precisely what all the experts here would have done. No panic or chaos among the players with a move like that. He really should have benched Allar too. Then the BWICAC could have really teed off on the HCJF melting down mid game while they all stood tall by their TV sets.
 

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has anyone accused them of scapegoating?
Ha! I did hear a local talk show guy say that he got fired because Buffalo had too many players on the field when Denver missed that first field goal. This is probably true. Funny how life works.

BTW, that guy was JeRod Cherry, who has three SB rings.
 

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Ha! I did hear a local talk show guy say that he got fired because Buffalo had too many players on the field when Denver missed that first field goal. This is probably true. Funny how life works.

BTW, that guy was JeRod Cherry, who has three SB rings.
Nobody cares. What have you done for us lately? Belichik and Dabo suck too!😉 Get me another brewski!
 

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Kliff Kingsbury needs to be priority #1
Better hope the interim guy works out. The six previous OCs will be reached for comment by any prospective candidate. When you go through that many, there is a problem and all the "dream" candidates will shy away, perhaps even Moorehead
 

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CJF looked like he was giving the "hook-em horns" to me.


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No, he wanted to “Rock!”

The old rock concert sign, supposedly started by Ronnie James Dio that was borrowed from his Italian grandmother when scolding him as a child, and was meant to say he was a devil (devil horns sign). Maybe Fraud-klin can use the excuse ”the devil made me do it.”
 
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It would have been a brilliant move to step in and relieve MY of his play calling responsibility mid game. I'm sure that's precisely what all the experts here would have done. No panic or chaos among the players with a move like that. He really should have benched Allar too. Then the BWICAC could have really teed off on the HCJF melting down mid game while they all stood tall by their TV sets.
Not what I’m saying. It is the prerogative of the head coach to tell the OC he doesn’t like the play call. As a head coach, you. never did that? I was NOT for benching Allar at all.
 
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Actually, CJF immediately puts up 1 finger when PSU Scores. Someone or something changed his mind. The real issue is it didn't work. I don't know why everyone has such an issue with it....is that what cost PSU the game?
I’ve seen one of Pennsylvania’s best coaches go for two in the second quarter of a playoff game. It failed. He chased that point the rest of the game, putting his team out of any chance of winning. The score was 14-9 when the Lions went for two and failed. The game ended at 24-15, when the Lions again went for two. By missing the two, they ended up 9 points, or two scores behind. Kick both points and it is 24-17 with around 4:00 left. It’s not what cost them the game, but it sure as shite didn’t help.
 

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I’ve seen one of Pennsylvania’s best coaches go for two in the second quarter of a playoff game. It failed. He chased that point the rest of the game, putting his team out of any chance of winning. The score was 14-9 when the Lions went for two and failed. The game ended at 24-15, when the Lions again went for two. By missing the two, they ended up 9 points, or two scores behind. Kick both points and it is 24-17 with around 4:00 left. It’s not what cost them the game, but it sure as shite didn’t help.
The bone headed time out early in the 4th quarter, only to punt the ball, wasted a valuable asset to extend the game. Then being desperate and going for it on a 4th down with over four minutes left in the game was another killer. Finally, going for two and not kicking an extra point to keep it a one score game, finally killed any chance of a comeback. A series of dumb calls that was coaching malpractice. They all blew up in his face.

The real head shaker is that he did the dumb 4th down try just a couple of weeks before and it blew up in his face and cost him a game. Does Bottom Feeder ever learn?
 
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The bone headed time out early in the 4th quarter, only to punt the ball, wasted a valuable asset to extend the game. Then being desperate and going for it on a 4th down with over four minutes left in the game was the real killer. Finally, going for two and not kicking an extra point to keep it a one score game finally killed any chance of a comeback. A series of dumb calls that was coaching malpractice. They all blew up in his face.
None of the decisions made sense. The going for two in the second quarter was ridiculous. The fourth and two was moronic. Finally, the play going for two in the 4th was a clown move.
 

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The bone headed time out early in the 4th quarter, only to punt the ball, wasted a valuable asset to extend the game. Then being desperate and going for it on a 4th down with over four minutes left in the game was another killer. Finally, going for two and not kicking an extra point to keep it a one score game, finally killed any chance of a comeback. A series of dumb calls that was coaching malpractice. They all blew up in his face.

None of the decisions made sense. The going for two in the second quarter was ridiculous. The fourth and two was moronic. Finally, the play going for two in the 4th was a clown move.
They make sense when you remember Bottom Feeder has blown game after game in the 4th quarter. He has heard the criticism of those past disasters of his and he panics thinking he has to avoid more failures. When he panics he takes chances that repeatedly cost him games.

He could learn a thing or two by watching Kirk Ferentz tapes of close games Ferentz has managed to win at Iowa over the years. Ferentz relies on his defense and special teams to keep games close and then steal victories against more talented opponents. It does not work every time, but he has a record of upsets with lesser talent.
 
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People still babbling about going for 2? How about getting 7 when you have first and goal from the 3 to open up the game? So many plays and decisions win a game, but going for 2 is pretty far down on my list. The fumble to open up the second half when PSU was driving was another bad coaching decision too!!!!

All coaches decisions are dissected after tough losses. Someone lost their job over those 2 games so I think the HC recognizes those games mattered. Just a heads up there as some don’t think so.
 

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People still babbling about going for 2? How about getting 7 when you have first and goal from the 3 to open up the game? So many plays and decisions win a game, but going for 2 is pretty far down on my list. The fumble to open up the second half when PSU was driving was another bad coaching decision too!!!!

All coaches decisions are dissected after tough losses. Someone lost their job over those 2 games so I think the HC recognizes those games mattered. Just a heads up there as some don’t think so.
been waiting for this to be mentioned
 

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I’ve seen one of Pennsylvania’s best coaches go for two in the second quarter of a playoff game. It failed. He chased that point the rest of the game, putting his team out of any chance of winning. The score was 14-9 when the Lions went for two and failed. The game ended at 24-15, when the Lions again went for two. By missing the two, they ended up 9 points, or two scores behind. Kick both points and it is 24-17 with around 4:00 left. It’s not what cost them the game, but it sure as shite didn’t help.
The decision had no impact on the outcome of the game. It's just another excuse to whine and *****.
 

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Not what I’m saying. It is the prerogative of the head coach to tell the OC he doesn’t like the play call. As a head coach, you. never did that? I was NOT for benching Allar at all.
To be fair, no one here will ever know what if any plays Franklin changed.
 
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OTOH how much time is spent working with the QB on ball security? IDK but thats a coaching decision too, and I would bet with the QB not too much.
 

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been waiting for this to be mentioned
You score there and it's quite possibly a different game as it's a one score game. It sucks...it happens, but scoring on that opening drive would have had the defense flying as well as the crowd....instead the opposite occurred.
 
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OTOH how much time is spent working with the QB on ball security? IDK but thats a coaching decision too, and I would bet with the QB not too much.
Based on what? Just throwing **** against the wall and seeing if it sticks? How many fumbles has he had this year? You see when invalid criticisms come out the valid ones get less value. EVERY single coach at that level talks about and practices ball security....even more so with the guy that will have the ball in his hands on every single offensive play. This team is + whatever on the turnover margin and QB's are more prone to fumbling....yet he hasn't had many.
 
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Based on what? Just throwing **** against the wall and seeing if it sticks? How many fumbles has he had this year? You see when invalid criticisms come out the valid ones get less value. EVERY single coach at that level talks about and practices ball security....even more so with the guy that will have the ball in his hands on every single offensive play. This team is + whatever on the turnover margin and QB's are more prone to fumbling....yet he hasn't had many.
Obviously coming from someone who has never seen the QBs practice. The RBs work on this. The QBs not do much
 

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Obviously coming from someone who has never seen the QBs practice. The RBs work on this. The QBs not do much
You still making things up and digging in all these years. His fumbling hasn’t been an issue this year. The timing of that sucked and it was TIC about the coaching decision.
 

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Based on what? Just throwing **** against the wall and seeing if it sticks? How many fumbles has he had this year? You see when invalid criticisms come out the valid ones get less value. EVERY single coach at that level talks about and practices ball security....even more so with the guy that will have the ball in his hands on every single offensive play. This team is + whatever on the turnover margin and QB's are more prone to fumbling....yet he hasn't had many.
Now fumbles are the coach's fault LOL You can't make this **** up!
 
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