Not really a point thing cause I don’t gamble, it’s more a middle of the third quarter “no way we win this“ feeling. Remember, OSU did what they did AT O. I’ve watched Texas 4-5 times this year, I have no real feeling on how they compare to OSU.
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You don't have to gamble. What is the average margin of victory for Team A to be "way" better than Team B?
To me, "way better" is more than a TD, so at least 7.5. Ohio State is probably close to this, but I don't believe that Oregon is.
Herbstreit in particular is a wizard at talking out of both sides of his mouth when it comes to tOSU. He builds up Penn State and other opponents of tOSU when it is a benefit to Ohio State to do so. Then he poormouths those same teams when he talks about the playoff/BCS.
Chris Fowler posts something on Instagram in the evening each week after he broadcasts a game. A week or two ago, his Instagram post was from the private plane with Herbstreit and discussed the playoff. Herbie was pushing for more SEC teams in the playoff, at the expense of teams like Indiana. It was sickening--we might as well let the SEC go to 6 or 7 conference games so they have more playoff teams at this point. It is sad that Herbie has influence over the selection of CFB playoff teams.
And yet PSU played OSU to a 1 score game and with a little more creativity at the goal line would have tied it late.
Herbie doesn't have influence over the selection of CFB playoffs teams, and 2 weeks ago, on Fowler's IG post from the plane, Herbstreit was actually talking up Indiana, saying how good they were. When Fowler brought up whether there's any way Indiana doesn't make it, Herbstreit was confident they deserved to be in, and when Fowler said something to the effect of "even if they get their doors blown in by OSU?" Herbstreit still was talking positively as if Indiana was intrinsically really deserving, regardless. I saw absolutely nothing in the past 2 weeks from Fowler's IG where Herbstreit was doing what you claimed.
So, there's that.
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They LITERALLY had a chance very, very late in the game, so whatever you were feeling that differs from that reality is your personal thing you have to work through.
They absolutely had a shot. Football is a game of momentum. It can change in a moments notice. The game was still very winnable. If Penn State gets that “non-fumble” call instead of it being overturned and the ball given back to Ohio State, it’s potentially a completely different football game. If you choose to be glass half empty, that’s on you.
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or if there isn't an insanely lucky interception in the end zone or if PSU manages to punch it in from inside the 5.....there were a LOT of near misses and they nearly all went the other way
Wrong. You should have stopped at saying that Herbie has no influence over selection of CFB playoff teams. The guy has the most visible platforms in the sport. He has clearly had influence in past playoff selections, such as tOSU over Penn State in 2016, and he will continue to influence selections going forward.
That's the eye test and based on your opinion. I am not saying that I disagree but what does that have to do with my post?
Nope I’m 1 playoff game win this season in August yo so 1/2 full is my number
Wrong. You should have stopped at not posting anything at all.
You're just talking completely unsupportable nonsense. Maybe the aliens influenced the selection of CFB playoff teams. You have as much proof of your assertion as the alien hypothesis.
And, yes, Herbstreit most definitely was VERY pro-Indiana in Fowler's IG. It was literally the exact opposite of what you claimed. I just watched it.
You only thought that because of our history with them….if we had never played them or haven’t played them for years you would have thought differently.
Can't say for sure that he had influence, but I won't forget the unusual angry look on his face when it was suggested that Penn State may be selected having won the Big Ten and beat OSU on the field. I don't remember something like that happening in the playoff era (and probably never will again), so you do have a point. I can't help but wonder if he would have shown such disdain toward Penn State getting in if it were anybody but Ohio State competing for that playoff spot. Loved the 31-0 shellacking Clemson laid on them in the playoff game.
Can't quote a single thing I said that isn't true, followed by childish strawman fallacies.
You're taking the L and moving on. You suck at this.
Nope. Never said anything close to that. Another weak strawman because you can't argue against the actual points I've made, so you have to invent some and then attack those. Pathetic.
Every win is a quality win except for Kent State and Purdue. They won the game against Minnesota, end of story…everything else you said about the game is your opinion and not fact, the only fact is they won. And again, no team wins all their games easily. Have you ever heard the saying “good teams find ways to win?” Likely not since you obviously never played a sport or coached one in your life….oh wait, let me guess, you had a stellar D-1 career (bwahaha). And I can judge that 10-1 is as good or better than every team in the country except one- are you able to analyze that or is that above your analytical abilities? And your biggest mistake is considering 10-1 to be mediocre. There, that was easy (mic drop).
When you actually make a point, let me know then I’ll make an argument against it.
You know nothing about football. The scoreboard is the limit of your understanding.
Stick to being a cheerleader, and try not telling people who are interested in more in depth analysis and who know more than you how to be fans.
You just keep piling up more fallacies (your latest: the false appeal to authority) because you have no argument.
You also have no idea what a mic drop is. Maybe try checking the records of the teams they've best this year. (Uh-oh... your argument is crumbling because you don't know anything about football or how to construct a coherent argument...!)
There you go. A tacit (if unwitting) admission of your defeat.
Move along, lad. Just wallow in the bliss of your ignorance, and when the season is over, you can lurch over to the next subject you know nothing about.
unrelenting negativity is not an argument, nor does it prove anything- and insults are not strength
To be fair, it seems the insults come from both sides of all of this. That is when things go off the rails.
PSU’s SOS is higher than almost every team in playoff contention, so apparently the people that know way more than you do agree with me. Maybe you should call them and pontificate to them on your vast football knowledge. I’m sure they’ll be as impressed as I am. And I apologize, I thought the purpose of any game was to win, I didn’t realize the scoreboard was not important. How silly of me.
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Still waiting for you point, but I guess blow hards never have a point. Happy Thanksgiving, hope your family thinks as highly of you as you think of yourself.
But it doesn’t apply to all the other teams.
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