I don’t recall a single RB screen, TE seam route or bubble screen. Are these not in the playbook or do the players not know how to run them?
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The RB’s averaged 3.97.
No we’re now going to be going by the eye test standard. Who cares about the score? If some of these ‘fans’ aren’t happy, then who cares if PSU had more points than the other team? That’s not the standard that matters around here apparently!
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You guys need to give Drew some slack. He should have played a heck of a lot more last year and thus avoided some of this, but it is what it is at this point. Better days are ahead for him.
A bit harsh, but basically true. Their fundamentals are lacking. They whiff on so many blocks and tackles. And that is what football is all about.
Tactically yes. Strategically no.
Early in the season, any time anyone mentioned issues with the offense, they were shouted down by the superfans who pointed at the scoreboard to remind us we put 30 points up against Illinois.
"A win is a win". "We blew them out in the second half." "You can't say we are going to lose to OSU and UM because of one bad game."
Well... yes, we actually could. Because there are things called trends. The signs were there, but the scoreboard pointers told us we were crazy.
So, sure, tactically, of course for today all that matters is the win. The gutted it out and I'm proud of them.
But from a strategic point of view, the oline and QB are still struggling. Franklin and staff are still snakebit after the first loss of the season.
If you want to focus on the win, that's great. Happy for you.
But I'm telling you this..... if I ever pull the equivalent of "losing to Indiana" at my job, I'm on a performance improvement plan at best and looking for a new job at worst. And if I pitch the equivalent of this "win over Indiana" my boss and I are probably having a serious discussion. I'm not saying I'm perfect at my job, nobody is. But this Indiana team is putrid, so the equivalent to losing to them would be me botching something really simple.
So for the fans that want to simply enjoy the win... they ain't wrong.
So for the fans that want to look at the win for what it is... they ain't wrong either.
If being wrong is wrong, then I don’t want to be right.
So why did Drew look a ton more comfortable last year and he looks like a skittish deer this year? The line has roughly the same players and with the exception of one WR & TE off to the NFL , his receiving/TE corps is roughly the same. He has to show this attitude that he's a 5-star and he's gonna prove it on the field. The QB I've seen for a lot of the season is a 2nd stringer at best.
Thanks. The numbers I quoted were net minus yards lost.
| RUSHING | ||
|---|---|---|
| Total (Net) | 80 | 132 |
| Attempts | 34 | 43 |
| Avg. Per Rush | 2.4 | 3.1 |
| Rushing TDs | 0 | 1 |
| Yds. Gained | 122 | 163 |
| Yds. Lost | 42 | 31 |
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I have a secret…if we would have won all of our games 75-0 going into OSU, that doesn’t guarantee a win over OSU. OSU didn’t look like world beaters coming into our game either and their offense looked pretty pedestrian…and guess what? It was pretty pedestrian against us yet they still found a way to win. How you play in one game doesn’t determine how you’re going to play in other games.
How do you know it would have made any difference in the world? His best game of the year was his first game, so that pretty much proves your theory false.
Sorsby's yards per attempt and yards per completion numbers were pretty darn good today. Then again, 185 of the yards came on just the three TD passes.
| PASSING | ||
|---|---|---|
| Total (Net) | 269 | 210 |
| Comp.-Att.-Int. | 13-19-1 | 20-31-1 |
| Avg. / Att. | 14.2 | 6.8 |
| Avg. / Comp. | 20.7 | 10.5 |
| TDs | 3 | 3 |
Lol I read this same post a few years ago except instead of Dans name it was MY !!
I thought last yr they improved in that area. This yr it seems they went back to the old schemes. Why? Idk
Maybe just a contender for Big Ten Offensive Player of the Week.
Five OCs in 10 years. One constant, offensive minded Head Coach. Just about every unit is the same - consistently inconsistent.
I just want to see a little more fire and passion from this team. Indiana had it today. Both Kansas and Oklahoma had it today. Penn State looked passive during long stretches of the game today.
The plays are slow developing. Not much is quick, yet Allar seems to do better in a 2-4 minute offense.
Well we ran all of them with Yurcich as OC last year, kind of weird. I can't imagine we don't have the personnel to run those plays, so I guess the offensive staff just has other ineffective plays that they prefer.
I think so too. Unlike last week he stayed in the pocket against pressure until he had to move and was stepping into his throws. Hopefully the game winning drive after Indiana tied it up will jump start him to better things going forward.
Who said anything about guarantees? I certainly didn't.
I watch almost no college football other than PSU these days, so can't really comment on how OSU looked prior to our game.
You refute my argument about pointing at the scoreboard by.... pointing at the scoreboard.
I don't care if you win 21-20, 31-13 or 73-3. Watching those games, its about watching what we are doing well and what we are doing poorly independent of the scoreboard.
My point was simply that, as a fan, if you wanted to watch those five games, and look at the things we were doing poorly, "winning" was not the only thing. While certainly no "guarantee", there were plenty of signs pointing to the offense laying an egg against OSU.
To go back to the work example....
I don't know what you do for a living, but are you honestly telling me that you never had a short term, tactical success, only too look and say:
"Man, we won today, but it was way harder than it should have been. Next time, with a more complex problem/more demanding customer/better competitor we are gonna get our a$$es handed to us unless we figure out a way to do it better"
Oh I don’t know Allar pretty well today IMO despite repeated breakdowns by the offensive line. He also threw a perfect ball for a TD with the game on the line.
It seems like we never get our running backs out in space. We have some success keeping the ball between the tackles and it’s a safe grind it out ball control offense, but it doesn’t result in chunk plays. And the passing game similarly is a safe short pass oriented game. If anything I think Allar is too slow making decisions as to when to let go of the ball. He may be missing the opportunity to hit open receivers this way by not risking turning the ball over and at times opens himself up to sacks or having to throw the ball away. In all it’s a very risk averse offense which when coupled with a great defense results in wins. Today the defense wasn’t there, and it almost cost them the game.
Call me old fashioned but I will take an ugly win over a pretty loss every time. Ask Oklahoma.
Which means it was a good thing the offense bailed them out today
Once again too many drops today. Singleton had two and Lambert-Smith had a big one when the ball hit him in a bad spot—right in the hands.
But what difference does it make what we as fans think? We’re not making any decisions. All we can do is watch the games and hope for a win and if we get the win, then that’s all that matters from our standpoint. If, as a fan, all you can do is watch every week and complain every week because the team isn’t living up to your expectations, then maybe college football shouldn’t be your thing.
I agree…I just love these posters that use arguments that can’t be proven false to prove their own opinion…like Allar would be better if he would have played more last year or we would win more games if we had another coach.
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