Official Penn State vs Ohio State game thread…

Alphalion75

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Ain't gonna happen. Softballs all day . . .

How was your Sunday? What's for Thanksgiving dinner? Do you use Gillette razors to shave your head? Can you see the scoreboard ok from the field?
Pennsylvania media are a bunch of wimps. There will be no hardball questions for Franklin......and on and on.
 
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HarrisburgDave

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You'd think a halfway decent defensive coach that Diaz purportedly is would be able to make the necessary adjustments to take him out of the game.
Diaz is Diaz. There is a reason he has been on so many coaching staffs. Good enough to impress, but never good enough to be valued and kept.
 

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You are so dense. Or maybe sarcastic.
Uh no, I'm neither. A number of you come in here with an agenda that if Clifford isn't 35 of 35 for 428, he's gonna get crapped on. The first pick wasn't on him. The 2nd pick was. The last pick was as well. The fumble was not. But to a lot of you, he can do no right and when he leads a 4th quarter comeback like at Purdue or turns it on in the 3rd quarter against Minnesota, you begrudgingly give credit. But secretly, you hope he falls on his face so it affirms your narrative.
 

PSUriseANDfire

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Uh no, I'm neither. A number of you come in here with an agenda that if Clifford isn't 35 of 35 for 428, he's gonna get crapped on. The first pick wasn't on him. The 2nd pick was. The last pick was as well. The fumble was not. But to a lot of you, he can do no right and when he leads a 4th quarter comeback like at Purdue or turns it on in the 3rd quarter against Minnesota, you begrudgingly give credit. But secretly, you hope he falls on his face so it affirms your narrative.

No I want him to succeed and I swear to everything on that. He is just not a good qb.
 
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Penn State vs. Top-10 opponents in the JF-era:


2016: (9) USC 52, (5) PSU 49

2017: (6) OSU 39, (2) PSU 38

2018: (5) Michigan 42, (14) PSU 7

2018: (4) OSU 27, (9) PSU 26

2019: (2) OSU 28, (8) PSU 17

2020: (3) OSU 38, (18) PSU 25

2021: (6) Michigan 24, (20) PSU 21

2021: (5) OSU 33, PSU 17

2021: (3) Iowa 23, (4) PSU 20

2022: (5) Michigan 41, (10) PSU 17

2022: (2) OSU 44, (13) PSU 31
 

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That would be 4 turnovers.
I was posting that just before the last one. Like I said, I blame the coaches for putting him in that position. Six years and they expect him to produce a different result? Whose fault is that?
 

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More time of possession.
More first downs.
More yards rushing.
More yards passing.

Turnovers 4-0.

Monkey’s Paw today - hold OSU to a ridiculously low third down conversion rate (was 2/10 at one point) and then allow 24 points off turnovers. That’s the ball game.
 
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Uh no, I'm neither. A number of you come in here with an agenda that if Clifford isn't 35 of 35 for 428, he's gonna get crapped on. The first pick wasn't on him. The 2nd pick was. The last pick was as well. The fumble was not. But to a lot of you, he can do no right and when he leads a 4th quarter comeback like at Purdue or turns it on in the 3rd quarter against Minnesota, you begrudgingly give credit. But secretly, you hope he falls on his face so it affirms your narrative.
No, no one ever expects him to be anywhere near that good, it's just easy to recognize an average to bad QB.
 

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“Coach— you’ve now been embarrassed in your only two tough games of the year while sticking with a 6th-year QB with a low talent-ceiling and no future as a football player. Moving forward, are there any plans to play either of your other QBs that actually HAVE a future with this program, or are you going to stick with Sean Clifford to pick up junk wins and pad his stats while sacrificing valuable experience for Allar and Veillieux?”
I’m guessing he’ll stick with Clifford. PSU will finish up year 9 with Allar and V getting no real experience to prepare for next year. “No one expected us to win this year” after all.

Then next year, (year 10), they will take their lumps as the new QB starts, (instead of him getting those lumps now and being prepared for next year). We will get the same “no one expected us to win this year” with a new QB excuse.

Then the following year, (year 11), you have 1 year of Allar now with college experience, (assuming he doesn’t leave).

Then we’re back to training a new QB, (year 12), and “no one expected us to win this year” again.
 
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No I want him to succeed and I swear to everything on that. He is just not a good qb.
He's a good QB, I'll give him that. I bear him no ill will and root for him. But he's not a great or elite QB. For all the big explosive plays he makes he makes a fair number of costly mistakes that you'd hope a 6th year senior would avoid.
 
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CDLionFL

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No I want him to succeed and I swear to everything on that. He is just not a good qb.
I agree with you on that. He's just average and he's not going to be that guy to win a big game like this. He makes the same mistakes now that a freshman QB would make and his decisions in the pocket are very average. I would also agree that now that the division chances are dead, Allar needs to be the starter.
 

PSUriseANDfire

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He's a good QB, I'll give him that. I hear him no ill will and root for him. But he's not a great or elite QB. For all the big explosive plays he makes he makes a fair number of costly mistakes that you'd hope a 6th year senior would avoid.

Most of his big plays were always a product of an insane amount of skill receivers and rbs, and TEs. He may be OK but I don't think that even.
 

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Uh no, I'm neither. A number of you come in here with an agenda that if Clifford isn't 35 of 35 for 428, he's gonna get crapped on. The first pick wasn't on him. The 2nd pick was. The last pick was as well. The fumble was not. But to a lot of you, he can do no right and when he leads a 4th quarter comeback like at Purdue or turns it on in the 3rd quarter against Minnesota, you begrudgingly give credit. But secretly, you hope he falls on his face so it affirms your narrative.
Just stupid. He is what he is. He’s a quarterback who has a six year record to look at. Not bad. Not ver good. About average.
 
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CDLionFL

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Penn State vs. Top-10 opponents in the JF-era:


2016: (9) USC 52, (5) PSU 49

2017: (6) OSU 39, (2) PSU 38

2018: (5) Michigan 42, (14) PSU 7

2018: (4) OSU 27, (9) PSU 26

2019: (2) OSU 28, (8) PSU 17

2020: (3) OSU 38, (18) PSU 25

2021: (6) Michigan 24, (20) PSU 21

2021: (5) OSU 33, PSU 17

2021: (3) Iowa 23, (4) PSU 20

2022: (5) Michigan 41, (10) PSU 17

2022: (2) OSU 44, (13) PSU 31
5 choke jobs and poor preparation to not have a serviceable backup QB available in a 6th.
 
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Calabrin

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Uh no, I'm neither. A number of you come in here with an agenda that if Clifford isn't 35 of 35 for 428, he's gonna get crapped on. The first pick wasn't on him. The 2nd pick was. The last pick was as well. The fumble was not. But to a lot of you, he can do no right and when he leads a 4th quarter comeback like at Purdue or turns it on in the 3rd quarter against Minnesota, you begrudgingly give credit. But secretly, you hope he falls on his face so it affirms your narrative.
Come on, man. This is a weak strawman fallacy. No one is making the argument that you are claiming. No one expects Clifford to be perfect. What we expect is that a 6th-year QB isn’t going to turn the ball over 4 times while consistently throwing behind his receivers, over his receivers, and at the feet of his receivers.

We expect a 6th year QB to not have poor throwing mechanics. Clifford has poor throwing mechanics. He does not properly step into his throws, which accounts for his poor accuracy.

I don’t know how some of you are giving him a pass for the first pick. Sean had dudes in his face all day and he just unleashes, anyway! Right into their hands! I think he pump faked ONCE (and it worked). If the linemen are getting position on you like OSU did today, you need to pump fake the ball to freeze them, THEN throw it. That’s first-year stuff, right there.
 

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I’m guessing he’ll stick with Clifford and we’ll finish up year 9 with Allar and V getting no real experience to prepare for next year.

Then next year, (year 10), they will take their lumps as the new QB starts (instead of him getting those lumps this year). We will get the same “no one expected us to win this year” excuse.

Then the following year, (year 11), you have 1 year of Allar, now with college experience, (assuming he doesn’t leave).

Then we’re back to training a new QB, (year 12), and “no one expected us to win this year” again.
next season will be a "rebuilding" year. :cool:
 
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So what does Penn State drop to in the ranking? I predict to 18-20.

And do they now collapse after losing their biggest game of the year after leading for a good while?
 

Alphalion75

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Why so mean to me? I was bragging on them for scoring the last td that beat the spread. $$$
I'm not angry. You're just a gambling jerk. Haven't you ever heard that term before? Gambling jerks care more about the spread than winning a game.
 
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