So, too early for Franklin to ask for a raise?
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A little harsh, but yeah, his teams do seem to lack the character it takes to be consistent winners. Collapses at crunch time are pretty much the norm, and it's gotten very old.
That list just keeps growing, year after year.
From Tuesday's press conference:
Q. 2018, after the Ohio State game, you outlined the steps that Penn State had to take to become elite. Where are you on that timeline right now?
JAMES FRANKLIN: Yeah, I think obviously a lot of things have changed since then. We talked a lot this off-season about new president in Dr. Bendapudi and new athletic director in Pat Kraft. That factors into all of this, there's no doubt about it. I think there's things within our program that you look at, whether it's from a development standpoint, whether it's a facility standpoint, whether it's a nutrition standpoint, whether it's recruiting. All the things that you talk about in terms of building a program, I think some areas, we have made significant progress in and others we still have work to do.
So I think in a lot of ways we've taken some steps in the right direction but there's still some areas that we need to get resolved. You know, that's why I think you know, I voiced this over and over again, the excitement I have for the leadership that we have in those two positions, and that's with total respect and appreciation for the past as well.
Don't waste your time my friend. Anyone who can't understand the issues with Clifford is not worth the time explaining them.
I fully understand the issues with Clifford and have pointed them out plenty of times. My issue is with people hanging every offensive mistake and every loss on him when it isn't totally on him.
Anyone else think Day was just toying with
PSU then Opened things up when it got to 30-24? That following score in 3 plays was way too easy.
PSU then Opened things up when it got to 30-24? That following score in 3 plays was way too easy.
This crap is sickening to read. Pointing fingers at everyone but himself. The predictability of his program is there to see for anyone with common sense and no fan bias.
We’re not competing with them. I don’t understand the “you deserve better” put down. Everyone wants better, it’s natural. I‘d be surprised if people didn’t want their alma mater to do better. Franklin’s alleged goal is to make PSU elite. He wrangled an elite contract, facilities upgrades, better contracts for assistants, more staff and hasn’t delivered. He flies a helicopter to high school games. PSU fans are perpetually waiting with Franklin. 2016 and 2017 are looking more like the result of an assistant coach and players, and Franklin went along for the ride. I pointed to Tennessee as an example of not being too hasty, but maybe I was too critical of their methods. They wanted success and maybe they got it. Illinois has a good coach now. Michigan State had a good year last year. Michigan is on the rise with a coach who took a pay cut. Wisconsin wants success and they cut bait with a coach who did better than Franklin. Nebraska cut bait with their coach. Georgia cut bait with a better than average coach for more success. It feels like Groundhog Day every year with Franklin. PSU is still operating like you keep a coach for 50 years, but we got lucky because that coach was great.
He is only 6’7” and 270 lbs. Similar in size to the size of DL that CJF recruits - not!
O$U has many more players that have something you can’t teach or develop - size and speed, especially size. That is the result of their average recruiting class rank compared to Penn State. They just have superior athletes compared to PSU and all Penn State players have to play their absolute best game to beat O$U, especially with the in game coaching disadvantage Penn State has.
I don’t really know. The first half had a different vibe than any game in the past 3 years. Too bad it disappeared in the 2nd half.
The obvious fix is to stop playing top-10 teams.
The strength of our team the secondary, let us down today no break ups or int.
A 6 year qb can't have 4 turnovers. Bottom line.
A 6 year qb can't have 4 turnovers. Bottom line.
I wanted to see 14 beat his home state team to have something to hang his career on. But today has to be a bitter pill for him
I agree....there is plenty of blame to go around. Starting with Franklin.
I will say one thing.....Franklin is a master of double talk......obviously.
I wish he would just write out a list of all the things he wants and post them for everyone to see so we can get them and be done with it.
I’ll give him an obligatory series for Senior DAy
The first pick isn’t on him? Good Grief. He threw the dog gone ball in to the hands of the defender. How is that NOT of cliff?
Can he obviously itemize each cost on an Excel spreadsheet for the donors to see?
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It's a hell of an athletic play by the defender who tipped the ball. Add to it that it was a terrible play call to begin with.
His list of university-related deficiencies is purposely meandering from weak to weak.
There’s more to it than that.
He’s a 6th year player. And he’s no better than average.
Why is he still playing? The only possible reason is because Franklin believes that Clifford gives them the best chance to win.
BUT if an average QB gives your team its best chance of winning, that means that Drew and Christian are BELOW average.
Does anyone want to make that case? No? Didn’t think so.
It actually seems like he’s trying to set up excuses for losing like they’re bowling pins. He’s not playing Allar or Veillieux, and sticking with Clifford— why? So next year, when the team underperforms, Franklin can go, “Well, we have inexperienced QBs!”His list of university-related deficiencies is purposely meandering from weak to weak.
Yeah, because YOU insisted on sticking with Clifford in 2022 even though he was bringing nothing to the table.
In 2004, Joe said he was 1 or 2 players away. He got Justin King and Derrick Williams and turned it around in 2005.
It seems to me that JF was willing to let the year ride on Clifford. I don't necessarily think you have to play Allar a bunch this year to get him ready for next year. Stroud, for example, never threw a pass in 2020, yet was ready to play in 2021.
It’s like a bad co-worker who spends all of their time making excuses rather than trying to do the job and accept responsibility.
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