Oktibbeha County gonna Oktibbeha County

L4Dawg

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56% white and 35% black just about the same as Mississippi as a whole?
The implication that Lafayette County was more advanced because it voted red. I would assume the university faculties would vote very similarly. There is a difference in the demographics of those counties. That explains the difference in the vote. That is the only thing I was pointing out there. I'm NOT making the claim that one is more advanced than the other.
 

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It more that way than its ever been but its not Noxubee... Main reason is because the democratic city has pushed people to the outskirts of the county and webster.
Without the university, Oktibbeha County is probably even more Noxubee County than Noxubee County is. Most of those people who have been pushed to the outskirts and Webster wouldn't be anywhere near Starkville if not for the university.
 

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right... keep repeating it, and maybe it'll become true.... 6 posts with the same thing.

As someone who has 4 generations of family that has ALWAYS lived here, and has family spread all over the surrounding area.... i feel pretty good about my take of where starkville was and what it has become. It far more webster county than noxubee.. and thats not even close.
What was Starkville before the university?
 

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Without the university, Oktibbeha County is probably even more Noxubee County than Noxubee County is. Most of those people who have been pushed to the outskirts and Webster wouldn't be anywhere near Starkville if not for the university.
Exactly.
 

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What was Starkville before the university?
as you stated. Go do your own research to what starkville looked like when the university was part of Starkville and not considered all of starkville.

People that have barely lived in an area for 30 years cant have an accurate opinjon on this because all they know is the starkville where mississippi state is king.

Also isnt in odd that its the blackbelt and noxubee.. but right when that line hits webster county is suddenly all changes in your opinion?.... guess you have to had been around to know why that is and why i know starkville would resemble it much more than the noxubee side you continue to push...

and i cant even begin to tell you how silly the fact is that the people that have been pushed to to outskirts and webster wouldnt even be around if it werent for the university. So they left starkville city limits and moved 30-40-1:30 away but only that far because of the university?. One of the dumber statements i've seen anywhere...
 
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L4Dawg

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The town vs gown stuff in Starkville always amazes me. The longtime residents always used to do everything they could to keep the university in its place, while they profited off of it. They never seemed to realize what Starkville would have been if it wasn't for MSU. I thought that had got better, but it seems it is still around. One thing is for sure, it's not NEARLY as bad as it used to be.
 

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as you stated. Go do your own research to what starkville looked like when the university was part of Starkville and not considered all of starkville.

People that have barely lived in an area for 30 years cant have an accurate opinjon on this because all they know is the starkville where mississippi state is king.

Also isnt in odd that its the blackbelt and noxubee.. but right when that line hits webster county is suddenly all changes in your opinion?.... guess you have to had been around to know why that is and why i know starkville would resemble it much more than the noxubee side you continue to push
Oh come on. Webster County has a very different geography than Oktibbeha County as a whole. The east side of Oktibbeha County was where the population used to be because that's where the Black Belt soil and therefore the largescale plantation agriculture was. Webster County never had much of that because of the soil. Oktibbeha County resembles Noxubee County even physically much more than it does Webster County, right down to the actual dirt.
 
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Do the students at MSU vote in Oktibbeha County?

I know the Census considers college students to be residents of whatever town their college is in, not their hometown.
 
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Do the students at MSU vote in Oktibbeha County?

I know the Census considers college students to be residents of whatever college their town is in, not their hometown.
They can if they register. Most don't. I think that was how beer got legalized in Starkville. I don't think you have that right about college kids though. That would make right at half the population of the county MSU students.
 
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Do the students at MSU vote in Oktibbeha County?

I know the Census considers college students to be residents of whatever college their town is in, not their hometown.
When I was a student in the early 2010’s I always went home to vote or voted absentee. Never registered in oktibbeha county.
 

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Oh come on. Webster County has a very different geography than Oktibbeha County as a whole. The east side of Oktibbeha County was where the population used to be because that's where the Black Belt soil and therefore the largescale plantation agriculture was. Webster County never had much of that because of the soil. Oktibbeha County resembles Noxubee County even physically much more than it does Webster County, right down to the actual dirt.
Yeah Webster is not like the others for that reason. My family came from Webster county to the Delta in the 30s as my grandfather said “before we starved to death.”
 

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What was Starkville before the university?
I suspect it was pretty much like it was when I was in school there from 1965-70, that being just a small town that could have been anywhere in the country, maybe even the world. There were no fast food places, one laundromat, I think just one theater, one Fred's (a Dollar General type of place). Basically, it was just a sleepy little town that seemed to not really like the adjacent university that came in. One thing that the university helped was the educational level of the residents, since the professors typically lived in Starkville or nearby (I hate to use the word "suburb" since there really wasn't an "urb" present.
 

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They can if they register. Most don't. I think that was how beer got legalized in Starkville. I don't think you have that right about college kids though. That would make right at half the population of the county MSU students.
I could well be misremembering, but I certainly thought that was in the instructions sent with the 2020 census. One "for instance" - Tuscaloosa filed a dispute with Census and ended up adding about 10,000 residents, presumably because of students. Otherwise, it's not a growing town.
 

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right... keep repeating it, and maybe it'll become true.... 6 posts with the same thing.

As someone who has 4 generations of family that has ALWAYS lived here, and has family spread all over the surrounding area.... i feel pretty good about my take of where starkville was and what it has become. It far more webster county than noxubee.. and thats not even close.
You'd have to be ******* Nostradamus to know what Starkville would be like without the university. Most of us would have never even driven through, much less set foot in, Starkville without the university

Yours is a nonsense argument built upon a nonsense premise
 
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HuntDawg

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You'd have to be ******* Nostradamus to know what Starkville would be like without the university. Most of us would have never even driven through, much less set foot in, Starkville without the university

Yours is a nonsense argument built upon a nonsense premise
i agree with this. Its impossible to know. But a poster made 6 posts liking it to Noxubee and Macon. My stance is simply it would be much more like Webster county than Noxubee. Due to the fact a lot of Starkville people are moving that direction....and the demographics of both aline.... plus ive been around a while as have my family. Ive seen both Noxubee and Webster. And i saw starkville then. Starkville then looks more like Webster now and nothing like Noxubee ever has.
 

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The implication that Lafayette County was more advanced because it voted red. I would assume the university faculties would vote very similarly. There is a difference in the demographics of those counties. That explains the difference in the vote. That is the only thing I was pointing out there. I'm NOT making the claim that one is more advanced than the other.
Lafayette County is about 70 percent white, 23 percent black, hence making up a big difference between red and blue votes
 

L4Dawg

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i agree with this. Its impossible to know. But a poster made 6 posts liking it to Noxubee and Macon. My stance is simply it would be much more like Webster county than Noxubee. Due to the fact a lot of Starkville people are moving that direction....and the demographics of both aline.... plus ive been around a while as have my family. Ive seen both Noxubee and Webster. And i saw starkville then. Starkville then looks more like Webster now and nothing like Noxubee ever has.
I looked up the census records for Oktibbeha County in 1870, the last one before MSU was founded in 1878. Oktibbeha County was approximately 38% white and 62% black. That is pretty much what the Black Belt/Prairie counties are now. It was an agricultural county and would have remained so without MSU. MSU changed the demographics and the economy of the county.

I saw Starkville back in the 80s by the way. That is when I was there. It wasn't much and wasn't much like Webster County at all.
 
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