Ol Miss Game Thread

uscjunkie

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With a new hire, there is a chance to improve. Keeping a loser has either no chance or less chance, imo.

By your reasoning, we should still have muschamp as a coach.
Well you don't know that to be true. If your thought process were true, a coach like Frank Beamer would have never become the HOF coach he became at VT because he would have been fired long before he started to improve!
 

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Well you don't know that to be true. If your thought process were true, a coach like Frank Beamer would have never become the HOF coach he became at VT because he would have been fired long before he started to improve!

Yes, Frank is an extreme outlier. Now let's list all the coaches that were fired after 4 years that didn't go on to win a title.

Think it will be a longer list?
 

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Yes, Frank is an extreme outlier. Now let's list all the coaches that were fired after 4 years that didn't go on to win a title.

Think it will be a longer list?
Well duh... only one team can win a title each year. How many coaches get fired each year? If all these coaches are so bad and they are the problem, why do other teams hire them since they already failed at other schools? That just proves that smart people know it isn't all about the coach.
 
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Well duh... only one team can win a title each year. How many coaches get fired each year? If all these coaches are so bad and they are the problem, why do other teams hire them since they already failed at other schools? That just proves that smart people know it isn't all about the coach.

Never said it was ALL about the coach. But smart people know that the coach is VERY important.

Not all coaches are bad, but when they fail, they shouldn't be rewarded. And yes, I'm counting our hiring of Muschamp in this as a mistake.

And keeping Muschamp would have been a mistake if we did it "just to try something different".
 

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Ok. I guess you’re a QB guru talking about a kid who's starting a grand total of his 4th game Geez - people like you is what gives gamecock fans a bad name
Does it really take a guru to see good quarterback play? Even his own coaches don't trust him throwing the ball...go ahead and make an excuse for that...but that is why I am sitting on a message board instead of the sidelines right? LMAO
 

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Guys Alabama lost to Vandy which shows you that teams have bad days - let’s put this behind us and get ready for Bama
 

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He is a duel threat....our QB is a solo threat. The forward pass is not his thing!
Our QB has no depth perception. Either overthrowing or underthrowing when it needs to be caught. Maybe there's a one-eyed QB in the transfer portal who is better at connecting on short passes.
 

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Never said it was ALL about the coach. But smart people know that the coach is VERY important.

Not all coaches are bad, but when they fail, they shouldn't be rewarded. And yes, I'm counting our hiring of Muschamp in this as a mistake.

And keeping Muschamp would have been a mistake if we did it "just to try something different".
So trying something different is bad but hiring and firing every 5 years is perfectly acceptable since it has worked so well in the past? Makes zero sense!
 

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Our QB has no depth perception. Either overthrowing or underthrowing when it needs to be caught. Maybe there's a one-eyed QB in the transfer portal who is better at connecting on short passes.
We should beat the portal bushes hard as hell and hope a QB falls out when able!
 
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So trying something different is bad but hiring and firing every 5 years is perfectly acceptable since it has worked so well in the past? Makes zero sense!

Sticking with a known loser makes no sense either.

Again, using your logic, we should still have Muschamp, and be hoping that more time will make him a winner.
 

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Sticking with a known loser makes no sense either.

Again, using your logic, we should still have Muschamp, and be hoping that more time will make him a winner.
You will never know if he could have gotten better because you fired him! You are creating a self fulfilling prophecy. I am sure fans were ready to run Frank Beamer out if town after 4 years.... they are probably glad they didn't though!
 

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You will never know if he could have gotten better because you fired him! You are creating a self fulfilling prophecy. I am sure fans were ready to run Frank Beamer out if town after 4 years.... they are probably glad they didn't though!
You have to borrow money now to pay for more exclamation points.
 

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You will never know if he could have gotten better because you fired him! You are creating a self fulfilling prophecy. I am sure fans were ready to run Frank Beamer out if town after 4 years.... they are probably glad they didn't though!

Again, frank is an outlier. Compare him against the countless coaches who were fired after 4 years, and deserved it. One list is much longer.

No one will ever be able to tell you that a hire is a certainty. If that is your threshold, you will never reach it.
 

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Again, frank is an outlier. Compare him against the countless coaches who were fired after 4 years, and deserved it. One list is much longer.

No one will ever be able to tell you that a hire is a certainty. If that is your threshold, you will never reach it.
I agree with you but the opposite is also true. Hiring a new coach every 5 years at SC (spending millions) has been tried and also shown to not work.
 

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I agree with you but the opposite is also true. Hiring a new coach every 5 years at SC (spending millions) has been tried and also shown to not work.

I guess I'm stuck thinking each new hire is a fresh chance to succeed. Where sticking with a struggling coach is less of a chance.

Oh well. There is no guarantee. It's all just opinion on what gives the best chances.
 

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Well you don't know that to be true. If your thought process were true, a coach like Frank Beamer would have never become the HOF coach he became at VT because he would have been fired long before he started to improve!
Comparing Frank Beamer to Shane Beamer is absurd. Frank was a PROVEN Head Coach, who produced nationally-ranked teams, prior to going to Virginia Tech. Frank was a man when he was at VT. Shane is a pipsqueak.
 

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