You are sad. Explain to me the point of NIL then. You pay crazy amounts of money to get a good player to your school. Then they abandon you when it is time to play for some type of championship. How does that benefit the school in any way? Why pay these fools if you are not going to reap any reward? Seems to me only the player wins. So at this point, I think NIL is pointless.
Thanks a lot Sanders and Kennard ...you're both quitters.
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I thought it was very clear that I meant things have to change. I don't see the confusion.Uh, did you read what I wrote?
You said - "NIL dollars are going to have to stipulate playing a full season and that includes bowl games and playoffs."
To which I replied, "... that can't happen with NIL as things currently sit...."
So, until things change, what you are asking for can't happen; they can't stipulate anything of that sort. Period.
And if what you were trying to say is "... things have to change from what NIL currently is in it's present form", then I'd suggest being a bit more explicit, because I don't see where that's reasonably inferred and nowhere in the post of yours that I quoted did you say that the current NIL rules/laws have to be changed.
You act as if I'm disagreeing with you, which isn't the case; I was just explaining you can't get what you want with the current rules/laws.
It might be hard after the debacle we all witnessed, but try to relax a little.
If I am correct NIL is about using your name,image and likeness to promote something or be a representative of something.Its not tied to actual on the field participation or achievement at all.At least that’s how I understand it.
Maybe to you but it wasn't to me (as I elaborated on in my last post). What I was clarifying is that you can't just write that sort of stipulation into an NIL agreement right now - it's illegal under the current laws - so until such a thing can be codified, it won't/can't change. It has to be a 2-step (at a minimum) process.
So, "A" has to change before "B" can be changed. And it's always difficult getting "A" (laws) written in a black-and-white manner to be administered as intended... but we can hope.
Of course but you wouldn't be paying for their NIL if they weren't some type of benefit to your school. Why are you raising all this money to pay these kids and get nothing out of it? Seems crazy to me that this makes any sense to anyone.
That is correct and why performance/attendance requirements can't be attached to them (under current law). They are outside entities, unrelated to the school or team.
Maybe you missed an earlier post where I said very clearly that things have to change in the future. Doesn't matter really but point is the NIL seems to only benefit one party and makes no sense to me. Yeah it is the player's name and image but without the school's platform, their image and likeness would be pointless. One can't be successful without the other so why does the player hold all the cards?Maybe to you but it wasn't to me (as I elaborated on in my last post). What I was clarifying is that you can't just write that sort of stipulation into an NIL agreement right now - it's illegal under the current laws - so until such a thing can be codified, it won't/can't change. It has to be a 2-step (at a minimum) process.
So, "A" has to change before "B" can be changed. And it's always difficult getting "A" (laws) written in a black-and-white manner to be administered as intended... but we can hope.
It doesn't make sense to most anyone paying attention and is why so many want to change it... but it's going to require law changes before that can happen. People aren't going to be conned out of their money in perpetuity.
Because otherwise we, as a society, run the risk of hurting their iddy biddy whittle feeeewings.....
And God knows....WE CANNOT HAVE THAT!!!!
Must have - I was only replying to the one I quoted, which might be why we have a disconnect.
And to answer your current question about why the players have all the leverage - it's because the courts have ruled that way based on current law... and the only way to change the NIL agreements and insert stipulations on the payments is to change those laws.
Then that has to happen......sooner the better! It is a shame that laws have to be created in order for people to do the right thing.
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If that makes you feel better, I'm wrong. Not going to make Kyle Kennard or Rocket Sanders walk through that door to put on a Gamecock uniform anymore.
Correct. Those traitors did their damage and it's done. Will not support either one of them going forward. I know they do not care but the inverse is true also - I am not required to care. I truly wish those quitters the absolute worst going forward.
The reasons that you just listed is not why he is payed by paper. Legally that’s not how it’s looked at and that’s all that matters.
You care. You have talked about them for the last 5-6 hours. It willl be okay my man.
Yes, I care - but again, you are doing what you do...... trying to mishmash things that simply are not true and trying to twist it into something else...You care. You have talked about them for the last 5-6 hours. It willl be okay my man.
I care about right vs wrong
I care about teaching kids the right lessons
I care about SC football
But as far as "them" (your word) - no..... I don't care. I truly don't. They are quitters. If I live to be 100 years old, then 50 years from now, I'll still be calling them quitters and it will still be true. This part, I freely admit, is my own opinion, but when you quit a team that you fought, cried, and bled with...... to let them go sink on their own when you know very well you could have helped that team win if you weren't so selfish and spoiled..... you are beneath pond scum at that point and that's for life. Hope it was worth it. They tarnished their lives forever because people like me will never let them forget it. Or anyone else for that matter. Example: Deebo Samuels. When his name comes up around here - I call him a quitter. Why? Because that's what he is.
You did bring up a very good point earlier: the only way for me to really make a difference, other than voting, is for me to tune out and withdraw $$ from these kids in protest - and next season, that's precisely what I plan on doing. I've been boycotting the NFL since the whole "flag kneeling" thing - I can come up with better ways to spend my Saturdays in the fall. I truly believe college football has been ruined..... and so.... I just won't watch it anymore. Maybe I'll tune in for the National Championship game but to put my attention and effort and time into a group of kids that are just going to quit in the end anyway......???..... no. I'm done.
This board is so whinny….those players gave their all for us this year. They are not bound by contract to play . This is common in bowl games. Do not see other schools attacking bowl opt outs.
This attitude can hurt recruiting and portal on trying to get top guys. All you are making this about yourselves.
This attitude can hurt recruiting and portal on trying to get top guys. All you are making this about yourselves.
You're part of the problem. "Those players gave their all for us..."
NO, THEY MOST CERTAINLY DID NOT. No amount of your lies will make it true. They quit. They're quitters.
You are yet another "fan" trying to justify quitting. It's horrible. Absolutely atrocious.
College football is now the minor league of the NFL. Eventually it will go the way of NASCAR who lost out when everything became big business and independent car owners could no longer afford to keep up. College players do not have the loyalty to a team, coach or community. They leave anytime they want and who they sign with means nothing. Bowls outside of the playoffs mean nothing. The players who got the team to the bowl are not there so the results mean little. The final rankings before the bowls should be what counts outside of the playoffs which will be just who has the most money.
This is what is wrong with CFB. That's why none of my money goes towards CFB, other than watching a game here and there.
Should be huge NIL financial penalties for not finishing full season, such as repaying money back or not getting money until season is finished
Should be required to sit out one season for transferring
Should be huge NIL financial penalties for not finishing full season, such as repaying money back or not getting money until season is finished
Should be required to sit out one season for transferring
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