That SEC Shorts taping at the Grant Presidential Library…

Dawgbite

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I’ve often wondered how long slavery would have survived if allowed to die a natural death. How different would race relations have been in the 20th century without the civil war being treated like some kind of martyr.
 

FormerBully

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I disagree about it being un-winnable from the start. It was very winnable for the south until July of 1863. The simultaneous defeat at Gettysburg and Vicksburg was the tip of the bell curve for the south in the war.

Lee’s aggressiveness and feeling of invincibility were assets in Virginia but liabilities in Pennsylvania. If Lee had listened to Jeb Stuart and have been happy with pinning the Union army on those hills in Gettysburg while opening the path directly to Washington…. Who knows. Lee could have turned toward Washington and the chase would have been on. And then if he inevitably clashed on ground more favorable to him close to Washington… again…. Who knows.

The war was not un-winnable if two or three changes could have been made and the outcome have been totally different.
One of Lee's and the south's biggest mistake was their desire for sweeping historic battle victories. If you look at the percentage of men lost Lee does not rank favorably. They were unable to adapt to changing warfare and that is why I think Grant is the better general.
 

HailStout

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The union Could have ended the war earlier if Grant had been in charge from the start. It is well documented how frustrated Lincoln was with his initial generals. I believe he went through three top generals before finally landing on Grant. The main issue was the fact that they weren’t willing to do what was necessary to end the war because they were afraid of the cost of human life. Because of this more lives were lost.
 

Walkthedawg

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The union Could have ended the war earlier if Grant had been in charge from the start. It is well documented how frustrated Lincoln was with his initial generals. I believe he went through three top generals before finally landing on Grant. The main issue was the fact that they weren’t willing to do what was necessary to end the war because they were afraid of the cost of human life. Because of this more lives were lost.
If the south and the north had swapped generals before the first Bull Run, the war would probably been over in 6 months. The Union had a bunch of bureaucrats masquerading as war command until Grant. The south had warfighters from the start.
 
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