Concerned about what? Him returning punts kicks or his receiving?No one is losing their minds. We can go replace players. But it doesn’t make much sense to lose Tulu. People are right to be concerned about that.
Concerned about what? Him returning punts kicks or his receiving?No one is losing their minds. We can go replace players. But it doesn’t make much sense to lose Tulu. People are right to be concerned about that.
You going to sit and here and act like he’s not a good player?Concerned about what? Him returning punts kicks or his receiving?
I'm saying what was told. I didn't say that Jr was tabbed to be the hire, but the system was tabbed. We did not follow through with that.So you saying we were telling everybody that Spurrier Jr was the guy? Then he wasn't? I liked what I saw in the bowl game and hoped we were heading that way with the trickoration, and the jet sweep motion and reverses and stuff. I thought we were getting a glimpse into the future. Tulu leaving would absolutely suck but he has his own decisions to make. Would be fun to see if we could really use him to his full potential for the next couple years.
Scoring Points is more important than "Trying different things".I liked that we tried some different things. And I can't help but think that QB play has been a problem and that Sawyer must have been awful and that at times our receivers couldn't catch when good QB play happened. Like how a baseball offense can't string together hits or the right hits to generate runs.
You gonna answer the question or just be an emotional opinion guy?You going to sit and here and act like he’s not a good player?
And some people refused to look at the results. All they wanted to do was to see it gone.I think it's pretty obvious that we SHOULD have done this. If it didn't work, retool it next year. Nobody would have blamed Arnett for doing so.
I mean Arnett himself was chosen to keep continuity. Then he used his power to break the continuity on offense.
All I will say is that it better work out next year.
Hold on you haven’t actually “said” anything.I'm saying what was told. I didn't say that Jr was tabbed to be the hire, but the system was tabbed. We did not follow through with that.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
So what was sold. Type it clearly for us.And some people refused to look at the results. All they wanted to do was to see it gone.
Our opinions and debates on what would work better is not the point here. The point is what was sold was not what the reality to the hire.
Wrong. remove the debate over what fans think will work or won't work or what you prefer. We recruited players to a system. It's what they came here for. The minute that was changed, you risked the roster. Most people refused to look at that because of what they wanted and just knew was best to win the west.Doesn’t have to work out next year anymore than “sticking with the air raid” would have.
Our fans are as dumb and terrible as everyone else.
Then he never should have indicated we would maintain the system they came here for. And before you or anybody starts with the "Leach's air raid", that's not what anybody had ever suggested we wanted.We hired Arnett for continuity in a number of ways and bc we didn’t have an AD to help make the hire.
recruiting mainly
he held the class together and it was pretty damn good
he didn’t keep a 51 year old who has never been successful as an offensive coordinator and hasn’t been a great recruiter
BIG 17ING DEAL.
Wrong. We most certainly did say that we were going to continue upon what Leach put in place here at MSU.It was to keep everyone from transferring and a signing class from folding. There was never a commitment to anything beyond that. I like Arnett, but we could've had a full search. We panicked. I do still think Arnett will be ok, but we'll know fast because we should be good.
Yeah, we have all said our opinion. We have all said that we are where we are so let's go. There is no turning back at this point. I will support 100%.No one is losing their minds. We can go replace players. But it doesn’t make much sense to lose Tulu. People are right to be concerned about that.
Don't bring in the factsArnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.
Not sure where you been but I have been saying it. I said it when we went after Briles. That Briles will not be at MSU and that sent a signal that we will not keep an air raid system like stated and that we would see QBs and WRs go. And here we are.Hold on you haven’t actually “said” anything.
So nut up and say what was said or shut the 17 up loser.
And there it is. The "Mike Leach". Get that outta here. Nobody stated that. And nah... This ain't a HS student. This is team.Arnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.A high school signee assumed we were and it's turned into Arnett said it.It's false,he never told any recruit we were going to stay Air Raid.
A coach told recruits what they needed to hear to sign them?Wrong. remove the debate over what fans think will work or won't work or what you prefer. We recruited players to a system. It's what they came here for. The minute that was changed, you risked the roster. Most people refused to look at that because of what they wanted and just knew was best to win the west.
Truth is that we let it be known what we wanted to do and kept players here. We then went a totally different way. This was going to happen.
Tulu came here to play for Moorhead. But please continue your rant.And there it is. The "Mike Leach". Get that outta here. Nobody stated that. And nah... This ain't a HS student. This is team.
Like I said, it's over. Done. The offense is changed and we will move forward with the hire. But don't get pissed about player leaving who we recruited here and came here for a system, then had their coach die, and then told we will continue on.
Then he never should have indicated we would maintain the system they came here for. And before you or anybody starts with the "Leach's air raid", that's not what anybody had ever suggested we wanted.
But so you know:
I have no idea what Arnett told high school recruits.Arnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.A high school signee assumed we were and it's turned into Arnett said it.It's false,he never told any recruit we were going to stay Air Raid.
I don’t give a 17 how excited tulu was before or not.Not sure where you been but I have been saying it. I said it when we went after Briles. That Briles will not be at MSU and that sent a signal that we will not keep an air raid system like stated and that we would see QBs and WRs go. And here we are.
If you can not see how excited Tulu was pre bowl and how he fell off that excitement post bowl, you are willfully burying your head.
It is what it is. Arnett made the hire and we will move on.
You seem to be way more pissed about tulu leaving than we are.And there it is. The "Mike Leach". Get that outta here. Nobody stated that. And nah... This ain't a HS student. This is team.
Like I said, it's over. Done. The offense is changed and we will move forward with the hire. But don't get pissed about player leaving who we recruited here and came here for a system, then had their coach die, and then told we will continue on.
But he didn’t get pissed when we fired mo head and hired leach?!?Tulu came here to play for Moorhead. But please continue your rant.
One was from WKU saying Blessed with a Hollingshead tag, the other was Tulsa saying Offered with a tag for Spurrier.Can’t read any of those tweets bc they are “sensitive” like players!
I said nothing about recruits. You did.A coach told recruits what they needed to hear to sign them?
OMG!!!
WKU is Drew. He was hired after being let go as OC at WKU.One was from WKU saying Blessed with a Hollingshead tag, the other was Tulsa saying Offered with a tag for Spurrier.
No it doesn't. The offense sucked in the bowl game.This narrative tanks when you realize we won. Against a top 5 defense. After 3 weeks of a death, a new coach and all that goes with it.
Current players are now recruits every year but I wouldn’t expect a below average iq to figure that out.I said nothing about recruits. You did.
What results exactly? Don't act like we had an unstoppable offense. We didn't. The offense was competent, barely, this year.And some people refused to look at the results. All they wanted to do was to see it gone.
Our opinions and debates on what would work better is not the point here. The point is what was sold was not what the reality to the hire.
Unfortunately this is absolutely correct.Current players are now recruits every year but I wouldn’t expect a below average iq to figure that out.
Will you hold this view when players transfer into MSU from a lower tier? Are you going to call them the worst offenders and say they are showing their true colors?Yes we will. Simmons had every option in America. He chose State from the beginning and is one of the most loyal players we've had. Those are the type we still need.
The worst offenders are the guys who didn't have options, then suddenly do after a year or two. They are showing their true colors (like RaRa).
Not sure where you been but I have been saying it. I said it when we went after Briles. That Briles will not be at MSU and that sent a signal that we will not keep an air raid system like stated and that we would see QBs and WRs go. And here we are.
If you can not see how excited Tulu was pre bowl and how he fell off that excitement post bowl, you are willfully burying your head.
It is what it is. Arnett made the hire and we will move on.
Shows that he probably won't make it in the nfl. Coaches change and you deal with it. You sign a deal you are there. That's how the nfl worksHe’s mad that his buddy isn’t the OC and he’s taking his ball and going home.
What a loser.
Tulu will never be an NFL WR. Hope he enjoys these next 2 years. Better cash in now.
Just go be a fan of Tulsa since your boy was sent on his way. I swear the cult of leach and the air raid is beyond anything I've ever seen.So saying we are going to do one thing and then not is what?
Fine you can go with them too. Bunch of air raid little whiny babies because the new head coach decided to go a different way. You were a blow hard for Moorhead then a blow hard for leach and spurrier jr. Now we got a new guy and like 180 you just wanna cry.Looking at 4 QBs leaving in 1 off-season now.
You should get out more.Just go be a fan of Tulsa since your boy was sent on his way. I swear the cult of leach and the air raid is beyond anything I've ever seen.