Tulu in the portal

[paindonthurt]

No one is losing their minds. We can go replace players. But it doesn’t make much sense to lose Tulu. People are right to be concerned about that.

Concerned about what? Him returning punts kicks or his receiving?

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Concerned about what? Him returning punts kicks or his receiving?

You going to sit and here and act like he’s not a good player?

 

[Ibdancin]

So you saying we were telling everybody that Spurrier Jr was the guy? Then he wasn't? I liked what I saw in the bowl game and hoped we were heading that way with the trickoration, and the jet sweep motion and reverses and stuff. I thought we were getting a glimpse into the future. Tulu leaving would absolutely suck but he has his own decisions to make. Would be fun to see if we could really use him to his full potential for the next couple years.

I'm saying what was told. I didn't say that Jr was tabbed to be the hire, but the system was tabbed. We did not follow through with that.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

I liked that we tried some different things. And I can't help but think that QB play has been a problem and that Sawyer must have been awful and that at times our receivers couldn't catch when good QB play happened. Like how a baseball offense can't string together hits or the right hits to generate runs.

Scoring Points is more important than "Trying different things".

 

[paindonthurt]

You going to sit and here and act like he’s not a good player?

You gonna answer the question or just be an emotional opinion guy?

 

[Ibdancin]

I think it's pretty obvious that we SHOULD have done this. If it didn't work, retool it next year. Nobody would have blamed Arnett for doing so.

I mean Arnett himself was chosen to keep continuity. Then he used his power to break the continuity on offense.

All I will say is that it better work out next year.

And some people refused to look at the results. All they wanted to do was to see it gone.

Our opinions and debates on what would work better is not the point here. The point is what was sold was not what the reality to the hire.

 

[paindonthurt]

I'm saying what was told. I didn't say that Jr was tabbed to be the hire, but the system was tabbed. We did not follow through with that.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

Hold on you haven’t actually “said” anything.

So nut up and say what was said or shut the 17 up loser.

 

[paindonthurt]

And some people refused to look at the results. All they wanted to do was to see it gone.

Our opinions and debates on what would work better is not the point here. The point is what was sold was not what the reality to the hire.

So what was sold. Type it clearly for us.

 

[Ibdancin]

Doesn’t have to work out next year anymore than “sticking with the air raid” would have.

Our fans are as dumb and terrible as everyone else.

Wrong. remove the debate over what fans think will work or won't work or what you prefer. We recruited players to a system. It's what they came here for. The minute that was changed, you risked the roster. Most people refused to look at that because of what they wanted and just knew was best to win the west.

Truth is that we let it be known what we wanted to do and kept players here. We then went a totally different way. This was going to happen.

 

[Ibdancin]

We hired Arnett for continuity in a number of ways and bc we didn’t have an AD to help make the hire.

recruiting mainly

he held the class together and it was pretty damn good

he didn’t keep a 51 year old who has never been successful as an offensive coordinator and hasn’t been a great recruiter

BIG 17ING DEAL.

Then he never should have indicated we would maintain the system they came here for. And before you or anybody starts with the "Leach's air raid", that's not what anybody had ever suggested we wanted.

But so you know:

 

[Ibdancin]

It was to keep everyone from transferring and a signing class from folding. There was never a commitment to anything beyond that. I like Arnett, but we could've had a full search. We panicked. I do still think Arnett will be ok, but we'll know fast because we should be good.

Wrong. We most certainly did say that we were going to continue upon what Leach put in place here at MSU.

 

[Ibdancin]

No one is losing their minds. We can go replace players. But it doesn’t make much sense to lose Tulu. People are right to be concerned about that.

Yeah, we have all said our opinion. We have all said that we are where we are so let's go. There is no turning back at this point. I will support 100%.

That does not make this any less than a messed up situation that did not have to be.

 

[KorbenDallas]

Arnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.A high school signee assumed we were and it's turned into Arnett said it.It's false,he never told any recruit we were going to stay Air Raid.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Arnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.

Don't bring in the facts

 

[Ibdancin]

Hold on you haven’t actually “said” anything.

So nut up and say what was said or shut the 17 up loser.

Not sure where you been but I have been saying it. I said it when we went after Briles. That Briles will not be at MSU and that sent a signal that we will not keep an air raid system like stated and that we would see QBs and WRs go. And here we are.

If you can not see how excited Tulu was pre bowl and how he fell off that excitement post bowl, you are willfully burying your head.

It is what it is. Arnett made the hire and we will move on.

 

[Ibdancin]

Arnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.A high school signee assumed we were and it's turned into Arnett said it.It's false,he never told any recruit we were going to stay Air Raid.

And there it is. The "Mike Leach". Get that outta here. Nobody stated that. And nah... This ain't a HS student. This is team.

Like I said, it's over. Done. The offense is changed and we will move forward with the hire. But don't get pissed about player leaving who we recruited here and came here for a system, then had their coach die, and then told we will continue on.

 

[paindonthurt]

Wrong. remove the debate over what fans think will work or won't work or what you prefer. We recruited players to a system. It's what they came here for. The minute that was changed, you risked the roster. Most people refused to look at that because of what they wanted and just knew was best to win the west.

Truth is that we let it be known what we wanted to do and kept players here. We then went a totally different way. This was going to happen.

A coach told recruits what they needed to hear to sign them?

OMG!!!

 

[Conman90]

And there it is. The "Mike Leach". Get that outta here. Nobody stated that. And nah... This ain't a HS student. This is team.

Like I said, it's over. Done. The offense is changed and we will move forward with the hire. But don't get pissed about player leaving who we recruited here and came here for a system, then had their coach die, and then told we will continue on.

Tulu came here to play for Moorhead. But please continue your rant.

 

[paindonthurt]

Then he never should have indicated we would maintain the system they came here for. And before you or anybody starts with the "Leach's air raid", that's not what anybody had ever suggested we wanted.

But so you know:

Can’t read any of those tweets bc they are “sensitive” like players!

 

[paindonthurt]

Arnett never told any recruit we were going to keep the Mike Leach offense.A high school signee assumed we were and it's turned into Arnett said it.It's false,he never told any recruit we were going to stay Air Raid.

I have no idea what Arnett told high school recruits.

AND I DONT CARE.

I just want him to recruit well and win and so far he’s par or better.

 

[paindonthurt]

Not sure where you been but I have been saying it. I said it when we went after Briles. That Briles will not be at MSU and that sent a signal that we will not keep an air raid system like stated and that we would see QBs and WRs go. And here we are.

If you can not see how excited Tulu was pre bowl and how he fell off that excitement post bowl, you are willfully burying your head.

It is what it is. Arnett made the hire and we will move on.

I don’t give a 17 how excited tulu was before or not.

Don’t care. None.

I care way more about whether Arnett is a good coach or not and him doing his thing.

 

[paindonthurt]

And there it is. The "Mike Leach". Get that outta here. Nobody stated that. And nah... This ain't a HS student. This is team.

Like I said, it's over. Done. The offense is changed and we will move forward with the hire. But don't get pissed about player leaving who we recruited here and came here for a system, then had their coach die, and then told we will continue on.

You seem to be way more pissed about tulu leaving than we are.

Bye Tulu! Good luck.

 

[paindonthurt]

Tulu came here to play for Moorhead. But please continue your rant.

But he didn’t get pissed when we fired mo head and hired leach?!?

Oh no!

 

[msstatelp1]

Can’t read any of those tweets bc they are “sensitive” like players!

One was from WKU saying Blessed with a Hollingshead tag, the other was Tulsa saying Offered with a tag for Spurrier.

 

[Ibdancin]

A coach told recruits what they needed to hear to sign them?

OMG!!!

I said nothing about recruits. You did.

 

[Ibdancin]

One was from WKU saying Blessed with a Hollingshead tag, the other was Tulsa saying Offered with a tag for Spurrier.

WKU is Drew. He was hired after being let go as OC at WKU.

 

[L4Dawg]

This narrative tanks when you realize we won. Against a top 5 defense. After 3 weeks of a death, a new coach and all that goes with it.

No it doesn't. The offense sucked in the bowl game.

 

[paindonthurt]

I said nothing about recruits. You did.

Current players are now recruits every year but I wouldn’t expect a below average iq to figure that out.

 

[Cantdoitsal]

Just another example of how youngsters today expect and demand the rest of the world treat them like their moms and fat little girlfriends do.

 

[Ibdancin]

Looking at 4 QBs leaving in 1 off-season now.

 

[L4Dawg]

And some people refused to look at the results. All they wanted to do was to see it gone.

Our opinions and debates on what would work better is not the point here. The point is what was sold was not what the reality to the hire.

What results exactly? Don't act like we had an unstoppable offense. We didn't. The offense was competent, barely, this year.

 

[L4Dawg]

Current players are now recruits every year but I wouldn’t expect a below average iq to figure that out.

Unfortunately this is absolutely correct.

 

[mstateglfr]

Yes we will. Simmons had every option in America. He chose State from the beginning and is one of the most loyal players we've had. Those are the type we still need.

The worst offenders are the guys who didn't have options, then suddenly do after a year or two. They are showing their true colors (like RaRa).

Will you hold this view when players transfer into MSU from a lower tier? Are you going to call them the worst offenders and say they are showing their true colors?


Something tells me you won't do that. Fandom /= consistency.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Not sure where you been but I have been saying it. I said it when we went after Briles. That Briles will not be at MSU and that sent a signal that we will not keep an air raid system like stated and that we would see QBs and WRs go. And here we are.

If you can not see how excited Tulu was pre bowl and how he fell off that excitement post bowl, you are willfully burying your head.

It is what it is. Arnett made the hire and we will move on.

Delete

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

He’s mad that his buddy isn’t the OC and he’s taking his ball and going home.
What a loser.

Tulu will never be an NFL WR. Hope he enjoys these next 2 years. Better cash in now.

Shows that he probably won't make it in the nfl. Coaches change and you deal with it. You sign a deal you are there. That's how the nfl works

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

So saying we are going to do one thing and then not is what?

Just go be a fan of Tulsa since your boy was sent on his way. I swear the cult of leach and the air raid is beyond anything I've ever seen.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

Looking at 4 QBs leaving in 1 off-season now.

Fine you can go with them too. Bunch of air raid little whiny babies because the new head coach decided to go a different way. You were a blow hard for Moorhead then a blow hard for leach and spurrier jr. Now we got a new guy and like 180 you just wanna cry.

 

[KorbenDallas]

Arnett never told anyone he would be staying with the Air Raid.A recruit and Steve Robertson threw that out.One is a kid and the other has no sources on staff anymore.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

It's just beginning fellas. Take some pictures of our 9 and 4 season and our top 20 finish. You won't be seeing that next year. Maybe 2025 will be our year....haha. Will is probly gone too.

 

[chuckster.sixpack]

Just go be a fan of Tulsa since your boy was sent on his way. I swear the cult of leach and the air raid is beyond anything I've ever seen.

You should get out more.