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USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread
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Maybe you should have listened for yourself to learn who the guest was and if the interpretation was reasonable.
- There were no comparisons of academic metrics. The point was Cal/Stanford don't want to throw even more money at athletics to keep up with the arms race. The Big Ten would like schools to at least try to pull their weight and be competitive in the sport which generates the most money.
- There was no discussion of how much money Stanford spends. Certainly they don't mind spending to support Olympic sports but if the football revenue decreases, what will they do?? They already tried to cut wrestling and I wouldn't be shocked if they looked into cutting other sports. Or maybe their endowment can support them. I have no idea.
- There was no discussion of conference affiliation meaning squat regarding academics. It was a discussion of how much the conference would expect a given university to make an effort to be competitive.
The Regents tried to get the Bigten to also take Cal into the Bigten. Obviously, that failed. Taking Cal would be like taking a smarter Rutgers.
Sources: Talks fizzle over early OU, Texas jump
After weeks of negotiations failed to find an agreement on an early move, Texas and Oklahoma are slated to join the SEC in 2025, sources told ESPN.
www.espn.com
Big Ten document sheds light on future scheduling
Documents obtained from UCLA through a public records request shed light on future Big Ten traveling and scheduling considerations.
Sharing flights? Interesting on paper, could result in Michigan tunnel incidents at 30,000 feet in reality.Big Ten document sheds light on future scheduling
Documents obtained from UCLA through a public records request shed light on future Big Ten traveling and scheduling considerations.www.on3.com
West coast grass is different than mid west grass?Big Ten document sheds light on future scheduling
Documents obtained from UCLA through a public records request shed light on future Big Ten traveling and scheduling considerations.
Can you still get stoned to the Bejeezus Belt with it?
Worth reading. Lots of travel & logistical issues to work out but it seems they have what look to be some workable solutions.Big Ten document sheds light on future scheduling
Documents obtained from UCLA through a public records request shed light on future Big Ten traveling and scheduling considerations.
Sources: Talks fizzle over early OU, Texas jump
After weeks of negotiations failed to find an agreement on an early move, Texas and Oklahoma are slated to join the SEC in 2025, sources told ESPN.
looks as though things changed:
As the P12 (10?, 8?, 6?) teeters on the brink - with the B12 right behind - and even the ACC in trouble - all largely due to relative Media Rights $$:
A quick look at "Media Money Home Field Advantage".
WHERE teams are located isn't the only thing, for sure, but provides a big leg up on securing more TV eyeballs, and more TV $$$.
Next year, when the SEC renegotiates its TV deal, they will regain the top spot - followed by the B10 - with the rest scraping along for (relative) crumbs.
So, who has/had Home Field Advantage:
The Top 20 media markets - and which P5 conference has Home Field Advantage.
1) New York: Home Field Advantage, B10
2) LA: B10 (now)
3) Chicago: B10
4) Philly: B10
5) Dallas: SEC (with Texas inclusion - which easily trumps TCU in the market)
6) SanFran: P12
7) Atlanta: SEC (Georgia Tech? Nah, Georgia)
8) Houston: SEC
9) DC: B10
10) Boston: ACC - I suppose, but BC is a very weak sister relative to nearby B10 programs
11) Phoenix: P12
12) Seattle: P12
13) Tampa: SEC/ACC (Several Florida markets in the lower half of Top 20 - UF of SEC, Miami, FSU of ACC)
14) Minneapolis: B10
15) Detroit: B10
16) Denver: P12
17) Orlando: SEC/ACC
18) Miami: ACC
19) Cleveland: B10
20) Sacramento: B10 (now)
Total:
B10 with 9 (not counting Boston), including all of Top 4
SEC with 4 (If you split both Orlando and Tampa w ACC)
P12 with 4
ACC with 3 (If you split Orlando and Tampa w SEC. Stuck in a horrible long-term Media contract - what were they thinking?)
B12 with 0 (Can they survive? De facto merger w "misfit toys" of the P12 on the horizon?)
SEC, obviously, way outkicks their "coverage" (pun intended), The B10, if anything, underkicks by at least a bit.
P12, it would appear, is going to drastically fail relative to its home field advantages.
A quick look at "Media Money Home Field Advantage".
WHERE teams are located isn't the only thing, for sure, but provides a big leg up on securing more TV eyeballs, and more TV $$$.
Next year, when the SEC renegotiates its TV deal, they will regain the top spot - followed by the B10 - with the rest scraping along for (relative) crumbs.
So, who has/had Home Field Advantage:
The Top 20 media markets - and which P5 conference has Home Field Advantage.
1) New York: Home Field Advantage, B10
2) LA: B10 (now)
3) Chicago: B10
4) Philly: B10
5) Dallas: SEC (with Texas inclusion - which easily trumps TCU in the market)
6) SanFran: P12
7) Atlanta: SEC (Georgia Tech? Nah, Georgia)
8) Houston: SEC
9) DC: B10
10) Boston: ACC - I suppose, but BC is a very weak sister relative to nearby B10 programs
11) Phoenix: P12
12) Seattle: P12
13) Tampa: SEC/ACC (Several Florida markets in the lower half of Top 20 - UF of SEC, Miami, FSU of ACC)
14) Minneapolis: B10
15) Detroit: B10
16) Denver: P12
17) Orlando: SEC/ACC
18) Miami: ACC
19) Cleveland: B10
20) Sacramento: B10 (now)
Total:
B10 with 9 (not counting Boston), including all of Top 4
SEC with 4 (If you split both Orlando and Tampa w ACC)
P12 with 4
ACC with 3 (If you split Orlando and Tampa w SEC. Stuck in a horrible long-term Media contract - what were they thinking?)
B12 with 0 (Can they survive? De facto merger w "misfit toys" of the P12 on the horizon?)
SEC, obviously, way outkicks their "coverage" (pun intended), The B10, if anything, underkicks by at least a bit.
P12, it would appear, is going to drastically fail relative to its home field advantages.
True. The only issue I’d quibble with is that I think we’re moving past media markets being the biggest issue after the mess of Rutgers, Maryland, and Missouri.
As you say, clearly it’s a factor but it’s more nuanced now. Rutgers is not far from New York but they clearly do not bring the New York market. I think this has now shifted to being more about the amount of interest a team can bring (rather than their location), and who can produce the best matchups week to week. More eyeballs equals more money. That’s what media cares about.
It’s why I think adding teams like Cal, Stanford, or Georgia Tech are complete disasters in the making. They may be near big cities but no one in those cities cares about them and they are not going to bring ratings or money. They would further dilute a Big Ten that is, frankly, already made up of mostly lightweights.
It’s been previously reported, (for whatever that’s worth), that the SEC were in talks to add Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and North Carolina. If that happens it’s game over. They will be the dominate football conference with the highest media payouts forever, regardless of how many big cities are in Big Ten territory.
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Huh? The current SEC deal is through 2034. The Big Ten will get a new deal again before the SEC (Big Ten deal ends 2030).
If you are talking about the deal with CBS that ends after the 2023-4 academic year, ESPN has already picked up those rights (signed in late 2020) such that ESPN owns all the SEC media rights as of the 2024-25 academic year.
Agree. And I said as much way back when Delaney was adding Rutgers and Maryland.
True. I should have said - more precisely - "when the new media rights deal" kicks in, NOT when it "renegotiates" (though there will be a level of "renegotiation" subsequent to the inclusion of UT and Oklahoma - which now looks like a 2024 start date).
SEC could distribute as much as $1.3 billion annually to members - On3
But that wasn't the primary purpose of the post.
Pac-12 dominos may start falling - 750 The Game
By JUDAH NEWBY, 750 The Game The Pac-12 CEO group is scheduled to meet next Tuesday. They...
www.750thegame.com
The Pac-12 is now chasing a TV deal with The CW
The Pac 12 on CW is now a plausible outcome as the conference scrambles to secure its future as a power conference
awfulannouncing.com
Ugh. I would prefer that not to be the case, unless the conference is going to go to 10 Conf games.
While the requirement may be lifted, there would be nothing stopping a Big Ten team from scheduling a P5 school if they wanted to. I think it'll still happen at some places. For example, Iowa/Iowa State will still be played, I assume anyway.
I would like to see a total end to scheduling FCS teams.
This is interesting, but I'm wondering how Sacramento is put into the B10 column rather than the P12. It's a little over an hour to drive from Sacramento to Berkeley and about 2 hours to Palo Alto, while LA is 6 hours away.
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