USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread
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You could stay in Pasadena for an away game a @USC but UCLA is not turning down all that money when there drowning in debt.Me if I don’t get my Pasadena away game:
Pac-12 media rights deal on hold as league awaits resolution on UCLA's Big Ten status from regents meeting
UCLA's future status has held up the Pac-12's ability to finalize its negotiations
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It all comes down to Dec. 14Pac-12 media rights deal on hold as league awaits resolution on UCLA's Big Ten status from regents meeting
UCLA's future status has held up the Pac-12's ability to finalize its negotiations
What's the Hub, Bub? How quickly we forget the BigTen, ACC, Pac12 "Alliance". Wherein it was announced that these three leaders of the "Student-Athlete" experience would be:
"Guided in all cases by a commitment to, and prioritization of, supporting student-athlete well-being, academic and athletic opportunities, experiences and diverse educational programming. The three conferences are grounded in their support of broad-based athletic programs, the collegiate model and opportunities for student-athletes as part of the educational missions of the institutions.
The three conferences remain competitors in every sense but are committed to collaborating and providing thought leadership on various opportunities and challenges facing college athletics, including:
"Guided in all cases by a commitment to, and prioritization of, supporting student-athlete well-being, academic and athletic opportunities, experiences and diverse educational programming. The three conferences are grounded in their support of broad-based athletic programs, the collegiate model and opportunities for student-athletes as part of the educational missions of the institutions.
The three conferences remain competitors in every sense but are committed to collaborating and providing thought leadership on various opportunities and challenges facing college athletics, including:
- Student-athlete mental and physical health, safety, wellness and support
- Strong academic experience and support
- Diversity, equity and inclusion
- Social justice
- Gender equity
- Future structure of the NCAA
- Federal legislative efforts
- Postseason championships and future formats"
Surely all that righteous stuff (they emptied the entire "Thesaurus of Virtue-Signaling Buzzwords". for crying out loud) wouldn't evaporate under the mere heat generated by a few more dollars? Nah, these are men of integrity. "Trust Us".
[And EVERY President and EVERY AD of all 40+ Universities signed on their commitment]
ACC, BIG TEN AND PAC-12 ANNOUNCE HISTORIC ALLIANCE - Big Ten Conference
If I'm understanding Tom's post above, it looks as though the payment may continue until June 2026. If they join in 2024 wouldn't that be for two years. I could be missing something here.
UC regents approve UCLA's Big Ten move, include conditions
See the link below. From the article:
”WESTWOOD, Calif. -- UCLA is officially heading to the Big Ten after receiving approval from the University of California regents on Wednesday, but the approval comes with stipulations.
More than five months after the Bruins, alongside USC, announced their shocking intention to leave the Pac-12 for the Big Ten in 2024, the UC Board of Regents chair and UCOP president recommended allowing UCLA to continue its move to the Big Ten in a special meeting Wednesday on UCLA's campus. The Board of Regents approved the move by a vote of 11-5.
"We looked at the reality of where we are and what the alternatives were," Board of Regents chair Rich Leib said. "And I think in the end we just decided that the best thing to do is the way we did it, which is conditions, but allow them to go."
As part of the board's decision, UCLA will have to increase its expected investment in student-athlete resources and might have to provide a subsidy to the University of California, Berkeley in the range of $2 million to $10 million once a Pac-12 media deal is secured, depending on the amount of the deal. The board included other conditions for UCLA to address the impact of the move on athletes, including funds for academic support, nutritional support and mental health services.
According to the letter to the regents, the subsidy to UC Berkeley would be to "enhance student-athlete support on that campus."
"Berkeley really took a hit by UCLA leaving," Leib said. "They suffered quite a bit. We don't know how much, but we felt it was important ... that we somehow make Berkeley, maybe not whole, but at least help them in that situation."
Leib said the board is allowed to revisit the issue once the Pac-12 has secured a media deal.”
www.espn.com
See the link below. From the article:
”WESTWOOD, Calif. -- UCLA is officially heading to the Big Ten after receiving approval from the University of California regents on Wednesday, but the approval comes with stipulations.
More than five months after the Bruins, alongside USC, announced their shocking intention to leave the Pac-12 for the Big Ten in 2024, the UC Board of Regents chair and UCOP president recommended allowing UCLA to continue its move to the Big Ten in a special meeting Wednesday on UCLA's campus. The Board of Regents approved the move by a vote of 11-5.
"We looked at the reality of where we are and what the alternatives were," Board of Regents chair Rich Leib said. "And I think in the end we just decided that the best thing to do is the way we did it, which is conditions, but allow them to go."
As part of the board's decision, UCLA will have to increase its expected investment in student-athlete resources and might have to provide a subsidy to the University of California, Berkeley in the range of $2 million to $10 million once a Pac-12 media deal is secured, depending on the amount of the deal. The board included other conditions for UCLA to address the impact of the move on athletes, including funds for academic support, nutritional support and mental health services.
According to the letter to the regents, the subsidy to UC Berkeley would be to "enhance student-athlete support on that campus."
"Berkeley really took a hit by UCLA leaving," Leib said. "They suffered quite a bit. We don't know how much, but we felt it was important ... that we somehow make Berkeley, maybe not whole, but at least help them in that situation."
Leib said the board is allowed to revisit the issue once the Pac-12 has secured a media deal.”
Board OK's UCLA to Big Ten, includes conditions
UCLA's move to the Big Ten was approved by the UC Board of Regents by an 11-5 vote Wednesday, but as part of the decision, the Bruins might have to provide a subsidy to UC Berkeley.
www.espn.com
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Is this some sort of extortion on the part of the UC Regents? Perhaps the B1G should consider revoking the invite until the "stipulations" are dropped. Talk with Oregon, Washington, or Utah as alternatives.UC regents approve UCLA's Big Ten move, include conditions
See the link below. From the article:
”WESTWOOD, Calif. -- UCLA is officially heading to the Big Ten after receiving approval from the University of California regents on Wednesday, but the approval comes with stipulations.
More than five months after the Bruins, alongside USC, announced their shocking intention to leave the Pac-12 for the Big Ten in 2024, the UC Board of Regents chair and UCOP president recommended allowing UCLA to continue its move to the Big Ten in a special meeting Wednesday on UCLA's campus. The Board of Regents approved the move by a vote of 11-5.
"We looked at the reality of where we are and what the alternatives were," Board of Regents chair Rich Leib said. "And I think in the end we just decided that the best thing to do is the way we did it, which is conditions, but allow them to go."
As part of the board's decision, UCLA will have to increase its expected investment in student-athlete resources and might have to provide a subsidy to the University of California, Berkeley in the range of $2 million to $10 million once a Pac-12 media deal is secured, depending on the amount of the deal. The board included other conditions for UCLA to address the impact of the move on athletes, including funds for academic support, nutritional support and mental health services.
According to the letter to the regents, the subsidy to UC Berkeley would be to "enhance student-athlete support on that campus."
"Berkeley really took a hit by UCLA leaving," Leib said. "They suffered quite a bit. We don't know how much, but we felt it was important ... that we somehow make Berkeley, maybe not whole, but at least help them in that situation."
Leib said the board is allowed to revisit the issue once the Pac-12 has secured a media deal.”
Board OK's UCLA to Big Ten, includes conditions
UCLA's move to the Big Ten was approved by the UC Board of Regents by an 11-5 vote Wednesday, but as part of the decision, the Bruins might have to provide a subsidy to UC Berkeley.
Berkeley really took a hit. Lol. Gotta love the Berkeley Tax.
UCLA should tell the regents to f*ck off. It shouldn’t be UCLA’s job to prop up Berkeley.
Well, Oregon and Washington might have Oregon State and Wazzu baggage. Utah would be free. The Big will have the LA market anyways, might as well add SLC.
Berkeley really took a hit. Lol. Gotta love the Berkeley Tax.
Berkeley really took a hit…… They suffered quite a bit…..well, actually we don’t know how much they suffered but that doesn’t matter. We thought we should just give some of UCLA’s money to Cal…..as a punishment…..just to be fair. We can’t really explain why, but Cal needs money too….. and they aren’t going to be invited….. so we just going to take it from UCLA.
As a side note, does the Big Ten have to deal with these UC regents after UCLA leaves the PAC? Isn’t that a bit of a conflict of interest having PAC oriented regents control the future of UCLA and have influence in Big Ten votes?
Is this just the beginning of the Big Ten financing Cal? How many times in the future are the Cal regents going to siphon Big Ten money from UCLA?
The more I think about it, the more I think UCLA and the Big Ten should do just that.
If not, this interference by a group of UC regents based in the PAC but now with influence and control over UCLA/ Big Ten decisions (and money) may not end.
UC Board of Regents votes to allow UCLA's move to Big Ten - Daily Bruin
Nearly six months later, and the Bruins are officially Big Ten bound. In a special meeting held in Westwood on Wednesday, the University of California Board of Regents decided not to block UCLA’s move from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten, approving the move by an 11-5 vote.
dailybruin.com
UCLA to Big Ten: University of California regents OK conference switch, will tax Bruins for leaving
University of California regents voted 11-5 to rubber stamp UCLA's conference realignment
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Something just occurred to me...Bill Walton won't be able to broadcast UCLA games and say 'Conference of Champions' ten times a game. That makes me happy.
Last I heard Bill Walton was strongly against the move to the Big Ten. That alone is proof that it was the correct move by UCLA.
There was an interesting interview on the Steve Jones show yesterday regarding UCLA. Here's a link to the podcast and it's the 2nd one down from the top. Side note that the UCLA discussion begins at 23:00. The first part of the hour is an interview with Jack Ham, also not too bad a listen. http://stevejonesshow.com/podcast-new/
Calimony paymentsBerkeley really took a hit. Lol. Gotta love the Berkeley Tax.
That was a good interview. Interesting points for me......
- The Big Ten isn't interested in Cal/Stanford and vice versa because the universities have chosen to emphasize their academics as opposed to athletics, institutional decisions which stand for themselves for better or worse.
- Piggy backing off the above, the guest pointed out the paradox of Cal backing away from being competitive in athletics yet still wanting some of the UCLA cash. He felt it was crazy to give the money to Cal when they have shown they aren't interested in trying. (And my own thought - maybe they need money to pay down the debt Barbour left behind.)
- He gave the impression that splitting Wash/WSU and Oregon/OSU wouldn't be a big hurdle since WSU and OSU would rather play in the MWC. To me that means Wash/Oregon would be next on the expansion list, especially if the four corners schools wind up in the Big 12 as has been reported. In the end - no more PAC.
Does joining a conference affect academics? Does joining the Big Ten affect academics more than being in the Pac Whatever? Isn't this insulting to the academics of Big Ten institutions?
I'm just a guy on a message board so the answers to those questions are over my head. I did get the impression Cal/Stanford simply aren't willing to spend the money needed to keep pace in the college football arms race regardless of conference affiliation.
If you ask me, the answer is no. Ask the presidents of the Big Ten schools and the answer is "of course it does." Now who you gonna believe? Ya' pays yer money, ya takes yer choice. Here's a hint: my answer is cheaper.
Not sure who the guest was, or if that is a reasonable interpretation of what he/she said... but, Nonsense.
1) Cal, USC, UCLA are all - within rounding error - "equals" by any reasonable set of academic metrics. Stanford a bit above the pack, of course.
2) Stanford generally spends as much or more than ANY P12 school on athletics (USC is usually 2nd.... I don't have this year's numbers handy - but, rest assured, Stanford spends a boatload year-in-year-out. Cal, of course, spent all of yesterday's money, today's money, and the next 50 year's money thanks to Sandy Barbour)
3) If "athletic conference affiliation" meant squat wrt academics, Oregon State/Washington State/and Arizona State would not be Community Colleges compared to USC/UCLA/Cal/Stanford.... same with Vanderbilt vav Arkansas, Northwestern vav Iowa, etc, etc, etc
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