USC & UCLA to B1G by 2024; conferences react; TV contracts thread

WVilleLion

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I feel for WSU and OSU. Probably MWC though I would not mind them getting invite to Big XII, even though that isn’t happening.
 
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It's sad how weak of a position they are in that the only reason they (Cal & Stanford) might consider the P5 conference with the weakest TV contract (ACC) is because they are in a conference with no TV contract, and which basically imploded in the past week.




But this might explain part of the reason they might consider it:


Was Skipper sober when he said that?
 
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Karen Peetz’ prediction on the new B1G divisions. Let’s start with the map.


Near Mid-West
USC
UCLA
Washington
Oregon
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Penn State
Wisconsin

Mid-West
Michigan
Ohio State
Michigan State
Illinois
Purdue
Indiana
Northwestern (?)
Rutgers
Maryland
 
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GrimReaper

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College Football has officially jumped the shark.
If you want to look for someone to blame start with college presidents.

 
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If you want to look for someone to blame start with college presidents.


I blame the NCAA for taking a hardline against Student Athletes receiving compensation all those years. If they had given a little we probably wouldn't have the Wild West like we do now. The schools are being forced to chase the tv revenue money in order to stay competitive.
 

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I blame the NCAA for taking a hardline against Student Athletes receiving compensation all those years. If they had given a little we probably wouldn't have the Wild West like we do now. The schools are being forced to chase the tv revenue money in order to stay competitive.
The NCAA = the University Presidents

Whether one might take the view that the Presidents ignored/abdicated their responsibilities is another matter, of course.

"Each institutional member has one representative: the president/CEO or a representative designated by him/her. Attendance by the actual president/CEO was low; less than 30%. Southern Methodist University President A. Kenneth Pye commented, "In too many cases, presidents have not only delegated responsibility, they have abdicated it." Many presidents designated their athletic director as the institutional representative, something Pye compared to "entrusting a chicken coop to the supervision of a wolf and a fox."
The president of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching Ernest L. Boyer summarized the situation: "There are presidents whose institutions are so deeply involved in athletics that their own institutional and personal futures hang in the balance. They feel they must resist such change because athletics are bigger than they are."
National Collegiate Athletic Association - Wikipedia
 
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“Simply put, success in Stanford football is essential for the success of Stanford University.”
 

GrimReaper

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“Simply put, success in Stanford football is essential for the success of Stanford University.”
Stanford's football coach is qualified to be president of LSU. Sounds about right.
 
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Benedict Umeh to dear ole state?
while for football reasons I would like it. If academics is as important as he says they are to him. Stanford was/is the correct choice for him. Regardless of who they play in football.
 

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This resposne to Brett McMurphy made me giggle....

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How committed was Pac-12 to staying together? Following last Tuesday’s meeting w/commish George Kliavkoff, a Pac-12 president contacted a Big 12 president & asked if Big 12 “could take all (9) of us, except for Oregon State & Washington State?" source told @ActionNetworkHQ
 

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Chip Kelly on College Football without Conferences

This is an interesting take by Chip Kelly and worthy of consideration, imo. College football has now surpassed the usefulness of conference affiliations, while other sports still have use for it. All college football FBS (1A) being Independents is a gutsy suggestion.
Of course, the current media contracts and crazy money will preclude any real consideration of any ideas that don't put the chase for money as the top priority, with other priorities (e.g. the actual student-athletes who put in the blood,sweat, and tears that drive the demand for the sport) being far down the list, like starting on page 3.
 
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The more I think about it this coach hit the nail on the head. Raises very good points ...
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While valid it’s also irrelevant at this point. I guess if kids want to play locally they should. The just have to pay tuition. I guess they can play 2 years on scholarship then transfer locally to reduce their debt. I’m not saying it’s fair but until the conferences are football and basketball only. It’s going to be harder for the athletes in non revenue sports. Unless the conference contracts planes from airlines to shuttle all theses kids privately.
 

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Chip Kelly on College Football without Conferences

This is an interesting take by Chip Kelly and worthy of consideration, imo. College football has now surpassed the usefulness of conference affiliations, while other sports still have use for it. All college football FBS (1A) being Independents is a gutsy suggestion.
Of course, the current media contracts and crazy money will preclude any real consideration of any ideas that don't put the chase for money as the top priority, with other priorities (e.g. the actual student-athletes who put in the blood,sweat, and tears that drive the demand for the sport) being far down the list, like starting on page 3.
Like with his time in Philadelphia, Chip Dip is thinking too far outside of the box. His mouth is moving before he thinks about what it is he’s saying. That plan has about 5% merit and 95% nonsense. Basically no conference means what schools negotiate their own TV deals? Talk about killing college football. Alabama, Georgia, OhioSt, Texas, Oklahoma and a fist full of others get big deals but 90% of the rest get peanuts. Think Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rutgres, sPitt or the rest honestly are going to survive?

Stick to football Chip, and stay in your lane. 🙄
 

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Like with his time in Philadelphia, Chip Dip is thinking too far outside of the box. His mouth is moving before he thinks about what it is he’s saying. That plan has about 5% merit and 95% nonsense. Basically no conference means what schools negotiate their own TV deals? Talk about killing college football. Alabama, Georgia, OhioSt, Texas, Oklahoma and a fist full of others get big deals but 90% of the rest get peanuts. Think Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rutgres, sPitt or the rest honestly are going to survive?

Stick to football Chip, and stay in your lane. 🙄
Interesting take on what he is saying. I didn't see it that way.

He stated the idea is to keep the current P5 schools in one division, and the current G5 schools in another, each play for their own Championship. There could still be inter-division play.

The implication there, as I read it, is that there would be commissioners and committees for each to handle scheduling oversight and contracts and equity. The G5s would not be any more left out than they already may be, and the P5s are in as strong a position as they are now, or better, without conference restrictions on scheduling.

We are already at a P4 of supersized conferences, sneaking toward a P3, and intra-conference play will mean that some schools play some others once every 5 years. And as of now, there are not going to be divisions within the conferences. That's a pretty loose affiliation, and not that far off from the affiliation among the whole of P5 anyway. e.g., how often will we play Purdue in the new B1G? How often will Minnesota play Oregon? Outside of maybe 2 or 3 opponents, will anyone care how often certain schools play each other after a couple seasons anyway? Purdue = Wake Forest for me - it's a Penn State game, so I'm excited, but I'm not as energized as I am for certain others, old and new. An Auburn-level opponent, regardless of current success, replacing a Purdue? Sign me up.

Maybe they might match up a couple same-conference teams in a bowl, like the 50s and 60s SEC used to sometimes match up conference opponents in the Sugar or other bowls who did not play each other in the regular season. That seems less than ideal, imo.

In any event, it's a creative thought, good or bad, yet certainly moot in today's reality. But, I like creative, courageous thinking, and now that many traditional aspects of college football are largely in tatters, again for better or worse, what fun stuff can we do with where we are right now? In this scenario, more Auburns, less Purdues (but still with an annual G5 opponent or two) for the Penn States of the CFB world.
 
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