Weather nerds........Milton

OopsICroomedmypants

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Both. Cloud seeding doesn't mean you can create and steer a hurricane. Assuming you could (you can't) and our FAARA overlords had nefarious intent, there would have been a cat 5 stalled out over Mar-a-Lago yesterday, today, tomorrow, and next week.
Thanks. Now I understand
 

ronpolk

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Milton should weaken before it hits FL. It is currently taking advantage of near perfect conditions to rapidly intensify, but as it gets closer to FL it is forecast to encounter some pretty significant wind shear which would serve to weaken at least some. It is still forecast to be a major hurricane but shouldn't be a 5 at landfall.
That’s what all the local Tampa and Orlando weather guys are saying too. My family is at Disney now. We got here before they were sure exactly what this storm would do. By the time they figured it out, a flight out was virtually impossible.

I grew up in Tampa, so I’ve been through a few of these. Typically, as far inland as Orlando is usually fine… but I’m still concerned. I’m more concerned for friends and family in Tampa though. That is a town with a flooding problem anyway and looks like the worst of this storm will be the surge.
 

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Milton should weaken before it hits FL. It is currently taking advantage of near perfect conditions to rapidly intensify, but as it gets closer to FL it is forecast to encounter some pretty significant wind shear which would serve to weaken at least some. It is still forecast to be a major hurricane but shouldn't be a 5 at landfall.
It can weaken and still be the most costly and destructive hurricane of all time simply due to where it makes landfall. The insurance industry is about to have a real stress test. Tampa is the ONE city that they never wanted to see take a direct hit. We're also about to see just how robust the worldwide reinsurance industry is. Lloyds hasn't seen anything like this. Capital may be hard to come by for new reinsurance purchases next year.
 

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That’s what all the local Tampa and Orlando weather guys are saying too. My family is at Disney now. We got here before they were sure exactly what this storm would do. By the time they figured it out, a flight out was virtually impossible.

I grew up in Tampa, so I’ve been through a few of these. Typically, as far inland as Orlando is usually fine… but I’m still concerned. I’m more concerned for friends and family in Tampa though. That is a town with a flooding problem anyway and looks like the worst of this storm will be the surge.
Of the major models the ICON had Ian farther south than anyone else in 2022 and they were correct. They are saying the same on this storm with it coming in south of Venice. I wouldn't advise anyone to make their plans based on this but just sayin.
 

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If Democrats could control hurricanes, it would be a far smarter political move to prevent this one from hitting land (or at least making it weaker) than the reverse. Can you imagine the polling bump Harris would get if she announced she was canceling the hurricane and then did it?
 

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Please go away with this crap.
I think you meant to quote the people on this thread who think the government is controlling the hurricanes?

I'm just trying to demonstrate how unlikely that is to be true, as the government would behave in the total opposite way if it were.
 

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I think you meant to quote the people on this thread who think the government is controlling the hurricanes?

I'm just trying to demonstrate how unlikely that is to be true, as the government would behave in the total opposite way if it were.
Preface: I don’t believe the gubmint controls the weather.

Do you really think if the govt is controlling the wx, that they would actually prove it or keep it under wraps so that they could do what they want and just blame nature or “man-made global warming” to push an agenda?
 

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Preface: I don’t believe the gubmint controls the weather.

Do you really think if the govt is controlling the wx, that they would actually prove it or keep it under wraps so that they could do what they want and just blame nature or “man-made global warming” to push an agenda?
Yes?

I don't think the government is run by sociopathic evil people, even when Trump was in charge.

And more cynically, any president who could cancel severe weather forever and then follow through would be enormously popular.
 
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Yes?

I don't think the government is run by sociopathic evil people, even when Trump was in charge.

And more cynically, any president who could cancel severe weather forever and then follow through would be enormously popular.

It is not entirely populated by sociopathic evil 17's, but you best believe a few who truly fit that description have climbed the ranks to some powerful spots.
 

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Yes?

I don't think the government is run by sociopathic evil people, even when Trump was in charge.

And more cynically, any president who could cancel severe weather forever and then follow through would be enormously popular.
man, stop arguing with anyone who doesn't have any more sense than to say things like the government controls the weather.

Just treat them like you would a 5 year old saying the same: laugh at them, and go about your day. You absolutely don't have to treat it like an idea worthy of consideration.
 

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Preface: I don’t believe the gubmint controls the weather.

Do you really think if the govt is controlling the wx, that they would actually prove it or keep it under wraps so that they could do what they want and just blame nature or “man-made global warming” to push an agenda?
IMO a government that can control weather would be far more transparent and threatening with it. It's simply too much power and wouldn't be a vague man behind the curtains approach trying to convince people global warming is their fault etc etc. It would be a near zero cost military. And the strongest the planet has ever seen. You do what I say? Congrats. You get perfect weather for a healthy safe and thriving society/agriculture. You get out of line? Enjoy your famine, fires, floods, hurricanes, tornados. Controlling the weather would make you more powerful than any God that has ever been worshiped (at least as it relates to tangible actions on Earth).
 
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Nuts? That guy is looney tunes. He makes a flat earther look like Copernicus. That dude is dead. I hope someone with some sense talks him out of that.

He may truly be an idiot. Or he may be someone seeking extreme levels of attention, got to get those social media clicks and follower numbers up
 

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man, stop arguing with anyone who doesn't have any more sense than to say things like the government controls the weather.

Just treat them like you would a 5 year old saying the same: laugh at them, and go about your day. You absolutely don't have to treat it like an idea worthy of consideration.
I agree with this principle often, but when you have members of Congress making this accusation, and some of the most watched pundits in the media saying it, it's got to be taken on directly or there will be tens of millions of Americans believing it.

A scientific argument isn't going to convince anyone, so I think a logical one is best - the government's behavior does not align with with how a government who could control the weather would act.
 
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