I think they've done that. Leaving to have a successful career, in any profession, should be welcomed not deemed a betrayal.
Who will opt out of the bowl game?
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Are you serious with this list?
Washington and joey porter Jr were injured.
Holmes vellieux and McGraw portabled/left the team
Talley left the team before
the season even started.
This is not even close to the premise that players didn't play to protect themselves for the draft.
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The players owe us nothing…but they owe their teammates everything.
After how he looked against Harrison, I cannot see King being drafted in the first round. I could see Dixon being drafted ahead of him.
Dixon struggled at times this year. King will still be drafted high. Harrison made a lot of CBs look average or bad. He is the best skill position player in college football and a potential Heisman Trophy winner.
Parker Washington made a huge mistake IMO. He would have made this PSU offense much better this year. He got drafted by the Jags, but I’m not sure he has even been active on game days yet.
Pitt opted out of a bowl way back in October HAHA!
That's a wonderful sentiment. The way we were raised and the credo we lived by in team sports. These athletes view it as a process....with the ultimate goal of acquiring life changing money. The teammates you reference will not begrudge, but rather understand and support "business " decisions.
As fans it is difficult to avoid getting emotionally attached to 18-22 year old players on our favorite team. However, when you break it down, we buy tickets (or cable) to be entertained...the cast of the production comes and goes.
I think if we get a great bowl opponent most will play, if we get sorry *** Tulane I wouldn’t blame them all for staying out. The playoff committee already screwed us several years ago with sorry *** Memphis, hopefully they give us a worthy opponent this time. I am not too hopeful because we have been screwed in many national rankings since 1969 and when we didn’t get to play Texas and the year we won the B10 and OhowIhate who came in behind us was selected. I am excited to see the end of the bogus east west B10. The fact that Iowa is playing for it is a complete farcical.
You know, there are plenty of reasons to be disappointed in college football as a business or even a pastime.
But, watching the games yesterday, the on field action (at least at the P5 level) was amazing.
OSU-Mich
OK State - BYU
Bama - Auburn
UK - 'Ville
UGA-Tech
Iowa State- K State
- even watching Cal- UCLA, for the kids from Cal who worked hard to get to go to a bowl game, especially after not having been to one for three years.....
edit - I will throw in the 'Cuse - Wake game. Those kids stayed focussed and got the win they needed to be bowl eligible. Good for them. Plus, they are coached by Nunzio Campile - and frankly, I like his name.....
I would rather spend the day watching college football than the NFL.....
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This article, posted early Sunday, has us in Fiesta against Washington.....
Would imagine most of the kids would want to be involved with this game....
although a little surprised the Cotton Bowl is projected to take Tulane two years in a row....I would assume Tulane had a nice showing and that might be part of it....Mizzou makes sense to Cotton....
Would imagine most of the kids would want to be involved with this game....
although a little surprised the Cotton Bowl is projected to take Tulane two years in a row....I would assume Tulane had a nice showing and that might be part of it....Mizzou makes sense to Cotton....
Why wouldn’t Washington go to the CFP? They’re #4, probably going to get to #3 now that OSU has lost.
Edit: Washington has to beat Oregon in the PAC 12 championship game. Duh.
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I think they are projecting Oregon to beat Washington in the PAC-12 title game.
I would like Washington as they are a really good team, but I don't believe they are on the Michy/OSU level, so we would have a chance.
I say the same thing all the time. On a certain level I don’t really have a problem with guys doing it and can understand it. On another level, I think it’s bailing on your teammates. But regardless, if you’re preparing yourself for the draft then I think you should probably bail regardless of the time in the season and regardless of the postseason game to be played, whether it be a December 20th bowl game or a BCS playoff game.
I’m actually surprised more guys haven’t taken the Parsons approach of skipping their third collegiate year altogether if they think they’ve done enough.
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I watched the entirety of the UK-Louisville game (with only brief interludes into the OSU-UM slobberfest). It was a great game.
Yep. I'm not really debating whether player X should opt out or not. No way am I in any sort of position to say one way or the other. My question is the logic and timing of the decision. To be logically consistent, players should start opting out as soon as their team is eliminated from a chance at a championship as every game from that point on is as meaningless as a bowl game.
Saw this today....
Projected matchup: Penn State vs. Tulane
This is not where Penn State wanted to be in the postseason, but there are numerous programs who would love to finish with double-digit wins and play in the New Year's Six. James Franklin will tell you the same on the record. After playing in the Rose Bowl last season, the Nittany Lions could add a Peach Bowl trophy to their expansive case against our projected Group of Five champion. Ole Miss could get this spot if the Rebels are ranked ahead of Penn State in the final committee rankings. Tulane's a win away from wrapping up another berth in a big-time bowl game under Willie Fritz.
They are professional athletes who are well paid. If they skip the bowl they can go **** themselves.
Continuing to talk like they are some amateur athletes doing it for the love of the game is stupid. They drive expensive cars and make big money. They are paid mercenaries with little connection to the University other than that NIL check that they negotiate and cash. If they do not play they should be contractually required to pay back NIL money.
Continuing to talk like they are some amateur athletes doing it for the love of the game is stupid. They drive expensive cars and make big money. They are paid mercenaries with little connection to the University other than that NIL check that they negotiate and cash. If they do not play they should be contractually required to pay back NIL money.
If they are professional athletes who are well paid, then their only obligation would be to the entity paying them, and not anyone else. So, if the entity that is paying them is OK with them skipping the bowl game, then they really have no obligations to anyone else, right? And since that entity is not the fan base, they have no obligations to the fan base, correct?
Edit - And Dave, let's be honest - when you post this stuff, what you really mean is that the players, coaches, etc should put your enjoyment ahead of everything else.
personally I do not like that there is a guaranteed G5 team that gets in the NY6 games. I think it should be the top 16 teams get to CFP and NY6. If a G5 team can get that ranking then okay, but not a lock.Saw this today....
(Photo: © Petre Thomas-USA TODAY Sports, USA TODAY Sports)
Projected matchup: Penn State vs. Tulane
This is not where Penn State wanted to be in the postseason, but there are numerous programs who would love to finish with double-digit wins and play in the New Year's Six. James Franklin will tell you the same on the record. After playing in the Rose Bowl last season, the Nittany Lions could add a Peach Bowl trophy to their expansive case against our projected Group of Five champion. Ole Miss could get this spot if the Rebels are ranked ahead of Penn State in the final committee rankings. Tulane's a win away from wrapping up another berth in a big-time bowl game under Willie Fritz.
I think USC had 8-9 players opt out last year, and combined with low motivation led to loss. Tulane was not better than the full USC team that played motivated during the season, but they didn't have to play that team. Tulane on the other hand saw this as the super bowl, so you get the obvious upset.
we already gave blood in the Memphis year, and were fortunate enough to have most of the team playing. let someone else play the G5 team.
I am pretty sure that had to include a G5 team, to avoid having the whole system torn apart by a G5 lawsuit
It’s the No Win Bowl - beat them and no one cares, lose to them and it’s an embarrassment.
Who is contributing to the NIL? Not the University. The fans, that is who. Not the University. Not the coaches. The fans. If these paid players want to skip out they should pay the money back. F them.
Since the players and coaches are paid professionals WE DESERVE THE BEST. We pay for the tickets, the merch, the stadium and facilities, and the NIL. Not Penn State University. WE DO. Kraft and his team pray we will keep the money coming in purchases and donations.
I don't buy this they are kids earning degrees and going on to careers nonsense. This is not 1970 or even 2010. The players are well paid and they OWE the people putting putting up the money and giving them the cars they drive.
If the coaches do not give us their best show them the door. Tell them they are Bottom Feeders. Make their lives a living hell until they are gone. They OWE us.
You people who think otherwise must go around with kick me signs taped to your backs. The rest of us want what we pay for, or we will damn well complain. You do not like that? Get lost.
I admire your passion, Dave. Your premise is misguided, but I admire your passion.
Not one player has a contract with the fans. Not one coach does either. Your are misguided too believe you do. Not all the fans contribute - and whomever is unhappy can simply stop contributing. No one is forcing you to do so.
Your belief system is misguided. I suggest you stop following collegiate sports - it would probably be better for you.
I never understood opting out. Football is inherently dangerous. Why play at all once it’s determined you will be a high draft choice.?
I’ve always thought a good solution is for the bowls to buy insurance against injury for all the top players.
I’ve always thought a good solution is for the bowls to buy insurance against injury for all the top players.
More than that though, they should opt out as soon as they believe they’ve put enough on film to get their optimal draft positioning. If it’s being done for the protection of one’s personal future than the team’s success or lack thereof should not factor into it.
On the other hand, if they’re playing for the success of the team and love of the game, they should play the bowl games.
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imagine the hilarity if the BIG had a no divisions format this year. tOSU and Michigan* would have to play each other next Saturday.
Didn't a Notre Dame player with pro aspirations suffer a significant injury in a bowl game vs. OSU some years ago?
I’m sure that has happened. I’m sure guys have lost NFL careers to injury at all points of their college careers. That is why I suggest the Bowls purchase disability insurance for star players.
By the same token, how many players have increased their draft value with outstanding bowl game performances?
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