Once the CFP expands, would it make sense to eliminate conference championship games?
Who would YOU put in the CFP with a TCU loss?
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A committee picking the "best" 4 teams is totally subjective. That is basically what CF had before there ever was a Championship game. Not trusting the human element was the main reason given as to why there needed to be a game to settle any split votes. So now we are perfectly fine that we "think" that Alabama would beat TCU is reason enough to put Bama in? Heck I think that if Bama plays LSU 10 times Bama wins 7. That should not change what actually happened in the 1 game.
It would. Except those games make a lot of money. So they’ll never be eliminated.
Yeah. By most arguments, the pac 12 championship game eliminated a team. However in 3 conference championship games, most argue it didn't matter if UGA or Michigan lost. Also now we are saying it didn't matter that TCU lost.
So 1 of 4 games mattered? Seems pointless then.
That’s partly because where they were ranked and how far they could potentially fall. UGA and Michigan would have had to drop 3 and 4 spots respectively. I think TCU drops one spot and stays in but the argument is that they might drop two spots and be out. It seems silly that they would drop two spots behind a two loss Bama who was sitting at home just for losing by a field goal in a neutral site championship game.
TN beat Bama. Head to head should be the first factor followed by quality wins. How bad and who you lost to shouldnt trump those. Especially when one of those losses is the #1 team in the country.
Regardless,TCU is still in.
Tennessee would have gotten more consideration if Hendon Hooker hadn’t gotten hurt. Without him, they’re not the same team.
The point is.... The sec and big 10 champion will probably always be 1-3 in the playoff poll. If we are saying a team can't drop 2-3 spots for losing a championship game, then why have the game.
The 12 team playoff solve all the arguments of if teams outside the top 4 should In the top 4 after Saturday. Just play the first round of playoff games the first Saturday in December.
If you don’t look for the best team, you end up discouraging good games and encouraging teams to schedule as many cupcakes as possible.
the only reason bama shouldn’t be a shoe in is the sec west is not what it normally is and they don’t have any great wins either. Beat some some solid 8-4 teams. not sure that’s better than what tcu did.
You can’t disregard the other things a team did just because of a head to head loss.
It’s not the best 4 teams. It’s also not the best 4 records. It’s the 4 best resumes.
Yes. And when comparing two teams you first look to head to head. Advantage TN. Quality wins? Advantage TN. Losses. Yes, TN a has the one bad loss. That should never trump
The other two in a resume compare.
Not every team plays, so you can’t use head to head first (on a national scale). It’s a factor, sure. But it’s not above anything else.
But you are only comparing those two for that last slot in theory. So of course head to head should be the biggest factor.
The precedent has been set in the modern era. It began with FSU getting in over ND in 1993. It’s happened over and over. FSU over Miami in 2000. Countless examples.
The committee chose this too, that’s why Alabama is one slot ahead of Tennessee ever since the SCarolina loss.
Well that’s likely bc of Hooker. But in no way should Bama be ahead of TN bc of one big loss at a top 20 team when TN won head to head and also beat the one common opponent that Bama lost to. It’s an no brainer. And I don’t think we need to do anything like we did In 1993 or 2000.
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