2021 Eagles Thread

WestSideLion

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Ouch is right and they deserve it. The fact they took Reagor the pick before Justin Jefferson will never be forgiven. It was the most obvious pick possible and they didn't do it. It's been nearly 2 years and I'm still not over it.
That gaffe was another all-timer for Philly sports. I didn't mind so much that they passed on JJ. It was that they reached for another WR who was so obviously not nearly the same level of player. The NFL is full of smart people. When you find yourself going against the grain to be smarter, it usually means trouble.
 

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Was just about to post this. reminds me of how they took care of Dorenbos with a super bowl ring and brought him along as a guest of Lurie. I'll tell you what, teams need to do more of this. This is why I love Lurie. He does it right, from Nelson to Dorenbos to the eagles Autism work. Great GREAT owner.
 

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Was just about to post this. reminds me of how they took care of Dorenbos with a super bowl ring and brought him along as a guest of Lurie. I'll tell you what, teams need to do more of this. This is why I love Lurie. He does it right, from Nelson to Dorenbos to the eagles Autism work. Great GREAT owner.
I wouldnt get too carried away about all of this. I like what he did here, but it was the only reasonable thing to do if you wanted to sit starters. Otherwise the guy plays, or if not, he goes and bitches to the Union, and then gets better. It was better this way. OTOH, He is the reason we dont have Doug anymore, and he is the reason JJGW as a second rd point. While he is not Jerry or Dan, he has been putting his nose in alot more than I care to see or hear.
 

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I wouldnt get too carried away about all of this. I like what he did here, but it was the only reasonable thing to do if you wanted to sit starters. Otherwise the guy plays, or if not, he goes and bitches to the Union, and then gets better. It was better this way. OTOH, He is the reason we dont have Doug anymore, and he is the reason JJGW as a second rd point. While he is not Jerry or Dan, he has been putting his nose in alot more than I care to see or hear.
You shouldn’t lump Jerry Jones in with Dan Snyder. Snyder is one-of-a-kind.
 
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I wouldnt get too carried away about all of this. I like what he did here, but it was the only reasonable thing to do if you wanted to sit starters. Otherwise the guy plays, or if not, he goes and bitches to the Union, and then gets better. It was better this way. OTOH, He is the reason we dont have Doug anymore, and he is the reason JJGW as a second rd point. While he is not Jerry or Dan, he has been putting his nose in alot more than I care to see or hear.


 

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@WestSideLion -- as you've pointed out repeatedly, Howie & crew can't afford to mess up this opportunity.


Thanks for sharing, Tom. The Eagles have 5 of the first 83 picks at present. That’s a huge opportunity to step forward. Hurts’ play will also dictate how big a step.

I have questions on effective cap space. I know they extended Sweat and Goedert. I expected more cap money to be available with Wentz’s dead money coming off.

Releasing a few expensive vets (Brooks?) may free up money too.
 
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The Eagles already stellar position in the upcoming draft …..may be getting better ! The League has a two pick ….end of 3rd round compensation reward for teams that have one of their minority employees interview and get hired by another team in a GM role. The Vikings have requested that the Eagles allow a junior exec of theirs come in for an interview for their vacant GM job. Being that he is a minority candidate the Eagles would be rewarded with said 3rd round picks if hired. The NFL added this incentive to further enable minority candidates to be moved upwards in the ranks.
 
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Here's a write-up from Bill Barnwell. He usually offers a fair and insightful perspective.

Takeaway: The Eagles need to use their first-rounders on defensive help.

So much of the discussion surrounding the Eagles over the past year has been about what they'll do at quarterback. A year ago, we were waiting to see whether they would trade Carson Wentz, with the embattled quarterback eventually ending up in Indianapolis. They didn't draft a quarterback in 2021, but after amassing three first-round picks in the 2022 draft, the possibility of using those to make an upgrade at quarterback has loomed over their entire season.

Jalen Hurts has played effective football, especially after the Eagles moved to a more run-heavy approach in midseason. They did make a genuine shift, but one of the reasons they were able to make that change is because their schedule got much easier, which kept them out of obvious throwing situations. Hurts isn't just a running quarterback, but he is unquestionably at his best when he can threaten defenses with his legs.

On Sunday, we saw the Eagles struggle against one of those juggernauts that beat them before the shift. Hurts, who has been dealing with an ankle injury, wasn't able to consistently throw the football and sailed too many of his passes. Facing one of the league's best run defenses, the Eagles carried the ball 17 times for 95 yards, but their passing game wasn't able to do enough.

Hurts' performance has led to more discussion about what the Eagles should do at quarterback. I think it's fair to start wondering about the other side of the ball. Philadelphia came into the playoffs ranked 25th in defensive DVOA, with new D-coordinator Jonathan Gannon running one of the most conservative schemes in the league. Coach Nick Sirianni suggested that the Eagles needed to give Tom Brady more to think about in their rematch, but the future Hall of Famer rolled through Philly for 31 points across his first nine possessions before the Eagles slowed things down. By then, the game was all but over.

The Eagles might use some or all of their pick haul in 2022 to go after a quarterback. Given how they've played this season, though, defensive help is a more pressing concern. Gannon was without defensive end Josh Sweat, who missed the playoff loss for medical reasons, but this is a defense in flux. DE Derek Barnett committed an early roughing the passer penalty, which will likely be his final act of note in an Eagles uniform. Stalwart end Brandon Graham will be turning 34 and is coming off a torn Achilles tendon, while fellow veteran end Ryan Kerrigan is a free agent. Starting safeties Rodney McLeod and Anthony Harris, linebacker Alex Singleton and cornerback Steven Nelson also will be unrestricted free agents after the season.

It would be a major surprise if the Eagles didn't shift a significant amount of their draft capital toward defenders. They haven't used a first- or second-round pick on a defensive player since winning the Super Bowl in 2017, marking a run of eight consecutive picks on the offensive side of the ball. (That number grows even higher if we count the picks traded for Wentz.)


I would suspect they see spending more on the offensive side of the ball as an organizational philosophy, but that imbalance has grown too significant. Throughout general manager Howie Roseman's time with the team, the Eagles have been built around a deep, talented defensive line, even if it's meant sacrificing spending elsewhere. Things are a little different with Darius Slay occupying north of $20 million on their cap at cornerback, but with Barnett and Kerrigan leaving, Graham possibly limited by his injury and Fletcher Cox turning 32 next year, I'd expect them to prioritize rebuilding their line this offseason, if not the defense as a whole.
 

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I know they need D, that said in my mind, Olave from OSU would be hard to pass up. I hope any QB with a pulse is gone by the time the Eagles draft, just to keep Howie from doing something dumb
 

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I know they need D, that said in my mind, Olave from OSU would be hard to pass up. I hope any QB with a pulse is gone by the time the Eagles draft, just to keep Howie from doing something dumb
I haven’t followed the free agent market, I think that’s a big factor in how they draft. The needs on the defensive side are so many that 1 draft won’t be enough.
 
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I haven’t followed the free agent market, I think that’s a big factor in how they draft. The needs on the defensive side are so many that 1 draft won’t be enough.
I agree, delco. There may be some real players available at WR in free agency or via trade. I also think that is the best approach to bolster DE. I fear they wind up with another marginal DE like Barnett with where they're picking in Round 1.

My wishlist echoes what that mock draft outlined: DL, LB, Safety or CB. Repeat at DB or LB in Round 2. Go after a developmental DE or WR in Round 3.
 

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I agree, delco. There may be some real players available at WR in free agency or via trade. I also think that is the best approach to bolster DE. I fear they wind up with another marginal DE like Barnett with where they're picking in Round 1.

My wishlist echoes what that mock draft outlined: DL, LB, Safety or CB. Repeat at DB or LB in Round 2. Go after a developmental DE or WR in Round 3.
Kiper has them taking Arnold Ebikete at 16.
 

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so much for the coach picking his team.....
Though they had an early exit, the Eagles made it to the postseason in 2021 — their first season with Nick Sirianni as a head coach and Jalen Hurts as their full-time starting quarterback.

In a season-ending press conference on Wednesday, General Manager Howie Roseman said he feels like Hurts showed enough during 2021 to declare him the starter entering 2022.

www.profootballtalk.com
 

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